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« on: January 01, 2018, 09:26:52 AM »

I don't have it.
As far as religion goes-it seems crazy to me.
Lotsa folks have faith.
 ISIS has faith. Hitler had faith. the religious snake grabbers that I grew up with have faith.
Seems to me FAITH is a belief in some supernatural s**t. Or a reason to say-" I'm better than you!"
I don't buy it-and most FAITH start wars.
I'm not impressed by folks who have it. I think their deluded.

I ain't an atheist-I'm a heretic.
I believe nothing.


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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2018, 09:36:09 AM »

You seem to believe that religion is stupid and that the folks who follow religions are crazy...
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2018, 09:40:03 AM »

You seem to believe that religion is stupid and that the folks who follow religions are crazy...

Yeah.

 That wasn't a mystery-I mean-ya know...like what I said...
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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2018, 09:47:06 AM »

Faith is extremely dangerous. I understand the psychological appeal but I don't trust it. That said, if someone has a relatively reasonable faith in a mainstream religion, they are usually extremely trustworthy (and predictable). I admire a lot of people who have faith, not for their faith itself, but for the good character it produces.
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« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2018, 09:53:15 AM »

Faith is extremely dangerous. I understand the psychological appeal but I don't trust it. That said, if someone has a relatively reasonable faith in a mainstream religion, they are usually extremely trustworthy (and predictable). I admire a lot of people who have faith, not for their faith itself, but for the good character it produces.

Ah-but they seem to be in the minority.
Faith gives use Isis, and morons who bomb abortion clinics.
The Crusades  and reasons to wipe out Jews or American Indians.
Faith? I wouldn't call it faith.
I would call it evil prejudice.
Blind belief gave us Charlie Manson and Donald Trump.
A belief in a idea with no basis in fact is insane.
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« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2018, 10:05:05 AM »

Screw faith, RC, look for evidence of the divine. It's out there.

But frankly, man, when you've been drinking you are at your most emotionally naked, and what I read from your cynicism and negativity is less about conviction and more about pain seeking alleviation. You want happiness and you wish you had it. You'd be glad if you had something that would make your life better. Substance abuse is not it.

If you're right and you die and your consciousness ends and your body rots, then why not embrace the drug of faith that brings more happiness than it does misery and at least have a little more joy in this short life? If there is no God, no afterlife, why is feeling happy about thinking there is one any more insubstantial than the brief bliss that comes from a bottle?

It might even do you some good, and at the very least your loved ones, including those here, would not have to be a witness to your piecemeal self-destruction.

Since you're willing to take so many other drugs (alcohol is a drug) why shun one more, if that's all belief in God is? Especially since that belief has the power to change you for the better? Ever wonder why you look on God and see only the dark side of belief rather than the light? Have you honestly ever tried to look toward something higher than yourself?

The thing about you that bothers  me sometimes, Ronny, is that you are, whether you get mad at me for saying this or not, in your own way a sweet person, and a smart person, and you take an easy path and let what's good in you get smothered by so much negativity.

Any fool can be negative, RC. Try a tough path for a change. Try aiming for the best in yourself. Some of the most intelligent people who ever lived believed in God, so maybe you should wonder what it is they saw that you do not. More good has come out of faith than bad, and I do believe that.

What are you afraid of? Why do you think there is worth in putting down what most others believe in?

If I thought you were worthless, like I think YOU think you're worthless, I wouldn't have bothered taking five minutes to write this, but across ten years I've seen there's a lot of good in you that you're not letting through, and that is a true shame.

It's a new year. It'd be a good time to make some changes.

Lose the vile cynicism, man, it's not helping anything.

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« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2018, 10:39:38 AM »

Religious faith only makes the news when it does something bad.
Ten thousand Christians go to church, worship, come home, and eat dinner, and the news never mentions it.
One radical goes against what Jesus taught and bombs and abortion clinic or shoots someone, and immediately every single news outlet in America mentions that he is a "fundamentalist Christian."

I believe because after a lifetime of research I am convinced the Gospels are telling the truth about who Jesus was.
And that faith makes me a better, kinder, and more loving person.
and I am NOT in the minority.  It's just that most of us who try to live our lives as Jesus taught never make the news for doing so.
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« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2018, 10:44:27 AM »

"Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!
 
...but He loves you.

He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, but he's just not good with money! "

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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2018, 11:31:13 AM »

Speaking as a child abuse survivor, I have always had faith in a Higher Power.
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« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2018, 12:23:03 PM »

For me, I think faith exists, so it makes sense to at least play around at the edges of set of beliefs that has some sort of history.

There's a sort of saying that people who don't have religion tend to create one for themselves. It's very easy to see how communism and marxism turned into a religion for those people. Murray Rothbard the libertarian guy once made the point that Marxism's dialectic, the idea that Marxism is historically inevitable is a variation on milllenialism and so forth

Anyway, if you KNEW you were going to end up believing in SOMETHING woud you rather it be something that has some sort of established guidelines? or some demented Scientology that is like a religion focused on doing nonsensical rituals in order to socially network in Hollywood.
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« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2018, 12:42:15 PM »

Faith is trust in something, it can be faith that your mother will never let you down, or faith that your dog won't runaway, or faith that you will find your way...
I don't believe that faith HAS to be about religion, though of course, the word "faith" is typically used to describe a religious belief system.  I envy anyone who has faith and admire faith.
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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2018, 01:14:40 PM »

You folks are right. I am cynical. I envy you.
ER-Your right. I am cynical and have no faith. I wish I could believe in something.
I think you hit the nail on the head. I really wish something in this f**king world would show me that there is a god-of love and there is some kind of good destiny and meaning to this life.
But I can't find it.
I just can't.
I'm destitute. I'm barren. I feel like I'm hollow.
I wish something would happen to show me life is good. Tiana wants me gone when I get my money from SSI-she doesn't hate me-she just wants to move on. I can understand that.
I have -I don't know. I have nothing to look forward to. I was an artist. I had dreams of being an artist. I'm a loser. I lost it all.
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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2018, 07:53:42 PM »

You folks are right. I am cynical. I envy you.
ER-Your right. I am cynical and have no faith. I wish I could believe in something.
I think you hit the nail on the head. I really wish something in this f**king world would show me that there is a god-of love and there is some kind of good destiny and meaning to this life.
But I can't find it.
I just can't.
I'm destitute. I'm barren. I feel like I'm hollow.
I wish something would happen to show me life is good. Tiana wants me gone when I get my money from SSI-she doesn't hate me-she just wants to move on. I can understand that.
I have -I don't know. I have nothing to look forward to. I was an artist. I had dreams of being an artist. I'm a loser. I lost it all.


If nothing else, RC, you have in this odd, eclectic bunch of people on this weird internet forum, a group of friends.
We care about you, and while I can't speak for everyone, I know that I even pray for you.
Look for the good, my friend.  There is more out there than you imagine.
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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2018, 06:16:25 AM »

Faith as in religion Im not strictly a believer in...though coming from a heavily christian conservative family I do find it hard to escape religion...I suppose deep down I find comfort in the idea of wishing positive outcomes into reality. the idea that if someone is desperate enough for an outcome and enough people want it to be the case, that faith and trust in an unknown force could potentially dictate that outcome...Not that I strictly believe in a devine being or anything. but I will admit there have been moments where I've been sat thinking to myself "For the love of batman please let this thing go this particular way1!!"

As for Faith in the trust sense it's a belief thats equally as fragile to me...I used to hold humanity in a somewhat trusting light but the last 2-3 years have really shown that as a species we're not to be trusted xD
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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2018, 10:46:25 PM »

Are you an atheist?
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