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Allhallowsday
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« Reply #45 on: August 31, 2018, 03:27:23 PM »

tell me sven, why did you feel the need to state your hatred of ALL chinese people because of what their government does? because that's basically what you said in your OP. i fail to see what your racism has to do with hollywood at all. i think your goal was to start yet another biff about politics and that's  very immature, and VERY trollish. if you want a place to fight, there are plenty of other boards out there where you can fight with people who would LOVE to rip your POV to shreds.
   please don't play the fake OP game, it's rude.
   

Sven did NOT "state" his "...hatred of ALL chinese people..."  At all. 

I also do not see "racism" in his remarks, but a clear disdain for an oppressive government. 
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« Reply #46 on: September 01, 2018, 06:13:26 AM »

4 pages in and I'm only responding to the OP - here's what it is.

WWII was full-on war propaganda. And the US probably needed it, assuming propaganda is effective.
The Cold War stuff, again, was war propaganda, except of course it wasn't really a conventional war.

So in the middle of this latter period, the US started trading with China, and China turns towards capitalism towards the end of the '70s. And then the USSR falls just over a decade later, so now almost everybody in the '90s is capitalist and all these powerful old enemies of the US are mostly friendly (except Cuba who the US establishment kept right on hating). But of course China's still a dictatorship, and Russia's still a dictatorship, but the US is trading with them so it mostly doesn't care.

If you pay attention, there are still a number of cases where the US has, since the end of the Cold War, gone really hard with propaganda against certain nations. The Iran thing's still going, and some of the stuff claimed about NK is probably misrepresenting the situation, too. This isn't even to say NK isn't horrible, but it seems to function more as a fiercely nationalistic kingdom than the desperate starved Disneyland that the American media often portrays. IE intervention would be a really bad idea. And in Iran's case, there's a country whose domestic policy is actually improving and whose foreign policy is probably better than that of American allies like Saudi Arabia and Qatar, so the grudge is probably over their relations with Israel combined with their being Shia.

But anyway... the US now has this big war machine from the world wars and the Cold War, and it's been keeping it oiled - and what you may notice, even worse than however much they appease the Chinese market, is how much Hollywood appeases the American military audience. You know - movies like Battleship or the military getting directly inserted into all these flicks like Godzilla where they may get oversight into how they're portrayed. And Godzilla was by no means a worse example, of course - Edwards made them look useless, and I commend him for that because he clearly did it in a somewhat clever way where you actually have to pay attention to the sequence of events to understand it. But those guys were still there getting free roles as valid authority figures without any direct questioning or criticism or satire. So even though the US isn't really in any current massive military conflicts right now (in spite of being involved in one or more wars), they still have the propaganda running.
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