The All-Purpose Political Thread

[Rev. Powell]

He's become a symbol of professional a--holes and trolls,  I. E.  Trump supporters.

........ that whole thing is one of the dumbest things I have heard. It's a s**tty frog meme.

How did you miss this whole story two years ago?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/pepe-frog-dead-meme-matt-furie-kills-alt-right-image-white-supremacists-hijacked-a7723586.html

I never even heard of "Pepe" before the flap about the alt-right using him to support Trump.

[Leah]

Ahh, now I remember. Yeah, I think that it's a reaction to when Hillary's crew said that it's a symbol of hate. Personally I still think that the whole thing is a waste of energy.

[Svengoolie 3]

He's become a symbol of professional a--holes and trolls,  I. E.  Trump supporters.

........ that whole thing is one of the dumbest things I have heard. It's a s**tty frog meme.

How did you miss this whole story two years ago?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/pepe-frog-dead-meme-matt-furie-kills-alt-right-image-white-supremacists-hijacked-a7723586.html

I never even heard of "Pepe" before the flap about the alt-right using him to support Trump.

Same here. I've never seen him used in a non hateful way.

[RCMerchant]

Who the f**k is Pepe? 

[Leah]

Cartoon frog.
EDIT: here's some Pepe, and I still believe that he's being falsely accused of being a meme of hate

[indianasmith]

This was my FB post tonight:


After some thought and reflection, here are some of my takeaways from the mid-terms:

A. With the Republicans controlling the Senate and actually picking up a couple of seats, impeachment is most likely off the table. Although my personal loathing of Trump is so strong I would love nothing better than seeing him removed from the job in disgrace, the facts are that an impeachment trial would divide our already fractured country even further and most likely fail to convict, since there has never been a successful impeachment trial of an American President.

B. With the Democrats in control of the House, this President's life is about to get a good deal more difficult. They will investigate his wrongdoings with vigor and enthusiasm, and he won't get a free pass on his non-stop barrage of lies and exaggerations anymore. I foresee many subpoenas being issued to the White House over the next year, and some of them may be merited. Trump's team has played fast and loose with the law, and it's going to catch up with them.

C. Given that the President's party did better than many expected in terms of managing their losses, the more radical Democrats will not look as attractive to donors and pundits for 2020, which means that the likely nominee is going to be more centrist and lest extremist. That is good for the Democratic Party and for the country as a whole, since the center is where the real art of governance has traditionally taken place.

D. The likelihood of a strong challenge within the Republican Party to President Trump is lessened somewhat by the party's gains in the Senate and better than expected performance in the House. However, it is still quite likely that Trump will be challenged for the GOP nomination by a more traditional Republican candidate, especially if the parade of scandals, indictments, and criminal allegations continues. While this challenger will most likely not win the nomination, the presence of such a challenge usually bodes ill for the incumbent President in the general election.

E. All that being said, my favorite story of the whole night was that, in Nevada, a dead pimp won some 67% of the votes in his district and was elected to the United States of America. Only in America could a recently deceased brothel owner win a seat in the national legislature! Or, as I saw one meme put it: Dead democrats may get to vote, but dead Republicans actually win elections!!

[Svengoolie 3]

This was my FB post tonight:


After some thought and reflection, here are some of my takeaways from the mid-terms:

A. With the Republicans controlling the Senate and actually picking up a couple of seats, impeachment is most likely off the table. Although my personal loathing of Trump is so strong I would love nothing better than seeing him removed from the job in disgrace, the facts are that an impeachment trial would divide our already fractured country even further and most likely fail to convict, since there has never been a successful impeachment trial of an American President.

B. With the Democrats in control of the House, this President's life is about to get a good deal more difficult. They will investigate his wrongdoings with vigor and enthusiasm, and he won't get a free pass on his non-stop barrage of lies and exaggerations anymore. I foresee many subpoenas being issued to the White House over the next year, and some of them may be merited. Trump's team has played fast and loose with the law, and it's going to catch up with them.

C. Given that the President's party did better than many expected in terms of managing their losses, the more radical Democrats will not look as attractive to donors and pundits for 2020, which means that the likely nominee is going to be more centrist and lest extremist. That is good for the Democratic Party and for the country as a whole, since the center is where the real art of governance has traditionally taken place.

D. The likelihood of a strong challenge within the Republican Party to President Trump is lessened somewhat by the party's gains in the Senate and better than expected performance in the House. However, it is still quite likely that Trump will be challenged for the GOP nomination by a more traditional Republican candidate, especially if the parade of scandals, indictments, and criminal allegations continues. While this challenger will most likely not win the nomination, the presence of such a challenge usually bodes ill for the incumbent President in the general election.

E. All that being said, my favorite story of the whole night was that, in Nevada, a dead pimp won some 67% of the votes in his district and was elected to the United States of America. Only in America could a recently deceased brothel owner win a seat in the national legislature! Or, as I saw one meme put it: Dead democrats may get to vote, but dead Republicans actually win elections!!

Yep, republican voters sure showed their deep commitment to christian and biblical values by voting for a "whoremonger", to use a biblical era phrase. I loved that too.

Seriously if the right is going to wave the bible and scream "GOD!" all the time can't they act like they actually believe in that stuff?

[indianasmith]

First of all, President Trump was not on the ballot Tuesday, so I'm not sure who you are talking about unless it's the brothel guy.  That election was in Nevada, not a state known for its strong evangelical base!
But yes, I am appalled at the enthusiastic support that so many Christians have thrown to this godless man, and his utter immorality is the main reason that I could not vote for him.  However, the Democratic Party has done little to court Christian votes since the 80's, and their relentless championing of abortion and sexual deviancy seems unlikely to change.
I voted for a third party moral conservative candidate last time and will likely do so again . . . unless I choose to run myself, which I am thinking about.
So what about it?  Can I rely on your vote?

[Allhallowsday]

[Svengoolie 3]

First of all, President Trump was not on the ballot Tuesday, so I'm not sure who you are talking about unless it's the brothel guy.  That election was in Nevada, not a state known for its strong evangelical base!
But yes, I am appalled at the enthusiastic support that so many Christians have thrown to this godless man, and his utter immorality is the main reason that I could not vote for him.  However, the Democratic Party has done little to court Christian votes since the 80's, and their relentless championing of abortion and sexual deviancy seems unlikely to change.
I voted for a third party moral conservative candidate last time and will likely do so again . . . unless I choose to run myself, which I am thinking about.
So what about it?  Can I rely on your vote?

You over trump?  Yeah,  you've got  my vote. In the primary.  For the general i'm voting for the Dem.

As to why I bright the ochre tumor into this,  he's a symbol of one reason I don't like a lot of people claiming to be religious in america.  They like to beat other people over the head with their views and demand their views be respected and held above criticism,  but boy,  when the proverbial rubber meets the metaphorical road, they don't follow their views very closely.  They vote for candidates who worship Mammon if any god,  certainly not Jesus.

[Svengoolie 3]

Yep.  And if the shooter is Muslim the response is "Ban Muslims!!!" If the shooter is Mexican it's "build the wall!!! " If he's black it's "Crush BLM! "

If he's  white as usual it's "This man obviously suffered severe mental illness,  he was obviously disturbed,  there were  a lot of issues that lead to this,  we can't blame all gun owners for this,  he got his gun legally so gun control won't work...... "

I honestly wonder what caused that marine to go on that bar room shooting spree.  I doubt we'll ever know.

[Svengoolie 3]

Speaking of religion in American politics, all franken pretty much hit it dead center with this.


https://m.imgur.com/gallery/bCqRp

Personally I think the last real christian we had in office was jimmy carter, and look at how the right treated him.

[Allhallowsday]

You over trump?  Yeah,  you've got  my vote. In the primary.  For the general i'm voting for the Dem.

As to why I bright the ochre tumor into this,  he's a symbol of one reason I don't like a lot of people claiming to be religious in america.  They like to beat other people over the head with their views and demand their views be respected and held above criticism,  but boy,  when the proverbial rubber meets the metaphorical road, they don't follow their views very closely.  They vote for candidates who worship Mammon if any god,  certainly not Jesus.

Perhaps this explains why you have always treated me unkindly and shabbily.  I expect you think that because I have asserted that I am Catholic, I must be religious and hate me for it.  I have a long memory, but I don't follow any member's writing here except RCMerchant, so I now see why ER has repeatedly alluded to this "hate" thing you have for religion.  You might be surprised how often we'd agree, but friendliness and courtesy are missing from your makeup.  That's a deal breaker.  

[lester1/2jr]

RC has writing?

[RCMerchant]

RC has writing?

Not really, but compared to you I'm Robert f**king Frost!