The shutdown

Svengoolie 3 · January 23, 2019, 01:57:43 PM

If anyone here is suffering as a result of the US gov. shutdown I wish you the best.

ER · January 23, 2019, 02:57:15 PM

Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on January 23, 2019, 01:57:43 PM
If anyone here is suffering as a result of the US gov. shutdown I wish you the best.

Unlike most people who get laid off, I believe many or most or all federal workers will receive back pay for this time off, so they should be all right.

Svengoolie 3 · January 23, 2019, 02:59:50 PM

Contractors working for the fedgov won't.

Pacman000 · January 23, 2019, 03:00:47 PM

Eventually; the problem is what to do now, especially for folk who are required to keep working, like the TSA.

Rev. Powell · January 23, 2019, 03:53:16 PM

Quote from: ER on January 23, 2019, 02:57:15 PM
Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on January 23, 2019, 01:57:43 PM
If anyone here is suffering as a result of the US gov. shutdown I wish you the best.
Unlike most people who get laid off, I believe many or most or all federal workers will receive back pay for this time off, so they should be all right.

You can't eat back pay, though. They'll ultimately be made whole, but they'll have to rely on savings, supplementary income or charity in the meantime.

Allhallowsday · January 23, 2019, 04:22:10 PM

Quote from: Rev. Powell on January 23, 2019, 03:53:16 PM
Quote from: ER on January 23, 2019, 02:57:15 PM
Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on January 23, 2019, 01:57:43 PM
If anyone here is suffering as a result of the US gov. shutdown I wish you the best.
Unlike most people who get laid off, I believe many or most or all federal workers will receive back pay for this time off, so they should be all right.
You can't eat back pay, though. They'll ultimately be made whole, but they'll have to rely on savings, supplementary income or charity in the meantime.

This is truth.

The shutdown is shameful.

Alex · January 23, 2019, 04:27:10 PM

I did see some heartening stories about charities and companies supporting the Coast Guard.

Bushma · January 23, 2019, 06:18:01 PM

I tend to be very Libertarian, so please take that into consideration. I do feel bad for those who are without income, especially those that are considered "non-essential" yet required to work like the TSA and military. Personally I feel like if you are required to work, then you should be paid. It should be those on capital hill that go without pay (hell, they CAN afford it), and they shouldn't get that back pay when the government does reopen. If a government shutdown effects this many people we should rethink the size of the government.

indianasmith · January 23, 2019, 07:24:11 PM

I am honestly disgusted with BOTH sides in this mess. POTUS started it, but the Dems are grandstanding for all they are worth.
TALK TO EACH OTHER AND SETTLE THIS!!!!

Leah · January 23, 2019, 11:45:27 PM

Quote from: indianasmith on January 23, 2019, 07:24:11 PM
I am honestly disgusted with BOTH sides in this mess. POTUS started it, but the Dems are grandstanding for all they are worth.
TALK TO EACH OTHER AND SETTLE THIS!!!!

They have, but it's through yelling at each other and not listening to each other.

Trevor · January 24, 2019, 01:29:59 AM

If I remember, Javakoala works for a government organization so I hope he's doing OK. I also do and I don't know what the hell I would do if my salary wasn't paid.

frank · January 24, 2019, 04:08:02 AM

Quote from: Bushma on January 23, 2019, 06:18:01 PM
I tend to be very Libertarian, so please take that into consideration. I do feel bad for those who are without income, especially those that are considered "non-essential" yet required to work like the TSA and military. Personally I feel like if you are required to work, then you should be paid. It should be those on capital hill that go without pay (hell, they CAN afford it), and they shouldn't get that back pay when the government does reopen. If a government shutdown effects this many people we should rethink the size of the government.

That is indeed weird. Congress members still recieve their pay, but their staff don't. Seems a bit awkward to me.

Alex · January 24, 2019, 04:17:10 AM

Do the people working without pay automatically get their back pay when the government starts back up? Heard from some people they do, and others have said it requires an act of congress to confirm it.

Can anyone shed some light on that?

Rev. Powell · January 24, 2019, 08:43:02 AM

Quote from: Dark Alex on January 24, 2019, 04:17:10 AM
Do the people working without pay automatically get their back pay when the government starts back up? Heard from some people they do, and others have said it requires an act of congress to confirm it.

Can anyone shed some light on that?

It required an act of Congress, but it has already been passed.

Svengoolie 3 · January 24, 2019, 11:05:33 AM

Quote from: indianasmith on January 23, 2019, 07:24:11 PM
I am honestly disgusted with BOTH sides in this mess. POTUS started it, but the Dems are grandstanding for all they are worth.
TALK TO EACH OTHER AND SETTLE THIS!!!!

Indy, you need to understand that if the big orange baby gets his wall he will pull shutdown after shutdown to get everything he wants.

The right used to call a "tyrant" while he let them stop everything he was elected to do, now they praise the ochre tumor for acting like a dictator. This time the dems are saying "No". And being attacked by the same people who wanted to stop Obama at every turn.

The shutdown

Pacman000