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First Openly Gay Presidential Candidate

Started by indianasmith, April 16, 2019, 06:11:17 PM

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RCMerchant

I dunno...I still like the old guy who talks like my Pappy Morris from the Bronx. Bernie Sanders.
And that's mostly why!
That doesn't make me a socialist- it makes me the guy who voted for Sanders because he sounds like my grampa.
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Allhallowsday

Quote from: RCMerchant on May 04, 2019, 04:40:27 PM
I dunno...I still like the old guy who talks like my Pappy Morris from the Bronx. Bernie Sanders.
And that's mostly why!
That doesn't make me a socialist- it makes me the guy who voted for Sanders because he sounds like my grampa.
I thought you don't vote...  ?
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Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on May 04, 2019, 03:04:51 PM
I admit a kinda support him out of hate. Hate for these rabid, foaming anti gay religious types. I have a nephew who is bysexual and when I heap people preaching for the extermination of people like him I feel a tremendous surge of hate at them. Frankly I'd vote for a gay man just to spit in the faces of the phelps crew and that steven anderson scum.

His policies are better than anything on the other side, that'd good too, plus his IQ seems to be in the triple digits.

More than anything in the world I want gay rights to not be associated with politics. Using homosexuality as a tool for spite isn't helping.

indianasmith

Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on May 04, 2019, 03:04:51 PM
I admit a kinda support him out of hate. Hate for these rabid, foaming anti gay religious types. I have a nephew who is bysexual and when I heap people preaching for the extermination of people like him I feel a tremendous surge of hate at them. Frankly I'd vote for a gay man just to spit in the faces of the phelps crew and that steven anderson scum.

His policies are better than anything on the other side, that'd good too, plus his IQ seems to be in the triple digits.

I think, in all honesty, you are one of the most hate-filled people I have ever met.
You criticize other people for being hateful, then pay them back in kind.
Are you blind to your own hypocrisy?
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RCMerchant

Quote from: Allhallowsday on May 04, 2019, 04:45:07 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on May 04, 2019, 04:40:27 PM
I dunno...I still like the old guy who talks like my Pappy Morris from the Bronx. Bernie Sanders.
And that's mostly why!
That doesn't make me a socialist- it makes me the guy who voted for Sanders because he sounds like my grampa.
I thought you don't vote...  ?

I might this year- just to get Trump out, I will!
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Svengoolie 3

I think we need a situation where an electable democrat runs and vows to appoint some other prominent dems to his cabinet. Like make sanders a big figure in the economic department. Try to reconcile the different major candidates instead of getting that russian troll engineered "bernie or bust" bs that hurt us last time and put that evil thing in the white house.

Now that we have a gay candidate I'm waiting for the first A/A candidate. Atheist/agnostic.

People who are non religious are the fastest growing group in america, we're more of the population than blacks, gays and a lot of other minorities that get pandered to. We need to form a voting block and start swinging our political weight around.



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indianasmith

Here is the thing - one thing, any - that has kept me from supporting ANY Democrat in a national election.

Their solution to EVERY PROBLEM, no matter what it is, seems to be: "Give more money and power to the government."
We need programs for this and programs for that and regulations for this and regulations for that.
We are $22 FREAKING TRILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT, PEOPLE!  And we are the most regulated, most taxed, and least free generation of Americans who have ever lived.

How about a program to give LESS power and money to the government??
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dean

Quote from: indianasmith on May 05, 2019, 05:03:59 PM

How about a program to give LESS power and money to the government??

Well to be fair govt inefficiency is a problem worldwide but I will say without a check/balance in terms of regulation the less we have the worse of the working/middle class tends to be. We recenntly had a big investigation into how our banks gave out loans and found that, in part, due to lack of oversight all sorts of terrible practices were being used purely for profit. Same as the rise of rights during the industrial revolution: too much free reign and it always happens to get abused (which is why we now have a theoretical 8 hour working day although that has been creeping away thanks to transport, housing and remote work).

Like all things it needs balance, but if I was American and not rich (i'm one of those things) i don't see why you would advocate for a system of govt where it enhances the possibility of abuse by reducing the oversight govt has. That and social welfare programs are there for the good of society, not for profit. The corporate sector sure isn't going to fund good programs to try and lift people up unless it is in their intersts, and unless we have a cultural shift, it currently isn't.

There's actually economic argument to be had for govts to be in debt rather than austerity meausures, but I'm not an economist so take that as you will:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2018/04/30/governments-are-nothing-like-households/#a8ab97254f8b

https://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2018/04/17/everything-youve-been-told-about-government-debt-is-wrong/#6ab887bf314f
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lester1/2jr

Marx has no answers for our current problems. racism, classism, imperialism are all harmful but they aren't the cause of our woes. the economy is what its all about. look at venezuela. there are brown skinned venezualans and lighter skinned ones. the US is constantly badgering the various leftist presidents but... thats not why they have the worst economy in the world. its because the price of oil dropped in half from its height and there garbage president didn't do the right things to pivot away from oil as the major source of income for the state.

This is the world writ large imo. desire for survival is eclipsing utopian ideology.

Svengoolie 3

Quote from: indianasmith on May 05, 2019, 05:03:59 PM
Here is the thing - one thing, any - that has kept me from supporting ANY Democrat in a national election.

Their solution to EVERY PROBLEM, no matter what it is, seems to be: "Give more money and power to the government."
We need programs for this and programs for that and regulations for this and regulations for that.
We are $22 FREAKING TRILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT, PEOPLE!  And we are the most regulated, most taxed, and least free generation of Americans who have ever lived.

How about a program to give LESS power and money to the government??

Republicans favor giving more power to corporations thru deregulation. I donct want corporations having kroe power,  I want them having less power.
The doctor that circumcised Trump threw away the wrong piece.

Leah

Here's my take: Is he a down to earth person and does he have experience in politics that doesn't carry controversy? I've been screwed over by both sides due to greed, so if he's not about it then he gets my vote.
yeah no.

RCMerchant

Quote from: indianasmith on May 05, 2019, 05:03:59 PM
Here is the thing - one thing, any - that has kept me from supporting ANY Democrat in a national election.

Their solution to EVERY PROBLEM, no matter what it is, seems to be: "Give more money and power to the government."
We need programs for this and programs for that and regulations for this and regulations for that.
We are $22 FREAKING TRILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT, PEOPLE!  And we are the most regulated, most taxed, and least free generation of Americans who have ever lived.

How about a program to give LESS power and money to the government??


And Republicans want less government? Then wtf are they doing running for office and making as much money as they can and doing NOTHING. Bulls**t.
Supernatural?...perhaps. Baloney?...Perhaps not!" Bela Lugosi-the BLACK CAT (1934)
Interviewer-"Does Dracula ever end for you?
Lugosi-"No. Dracula-never ends."
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indianasmith

Given the current incarnation of the GOP, I have to agree.
The trillion dollar deficits were understandable in a Democrat administration, inexcusable from a party supposedly devoted to fiscal discipline.
Of course, when you start trying to cut budgets, you quickly realize that a HUGE chunk of spending is in the form of Social Security and Medicare.
And even the most modest proposals to reform those programs gets you accused of wanting to starve grandma to death.
So we march towards the fiscal cliff, year after year, bickering over nickels and dimes while spending billions we don't have.
And we'll still be bickering when we hit bottom and go splat.
"I shall smite you in the nostrils with a rod of iron, and wax your spleen with Efferdent!!"

Svengoolie 3

Respectfully,  Indy,  I think this chart shows what america should cut.  But of courses  if you want to do anything but constantly toy increase military spednng yiu get accused of wanting to leave america helpless before the all mighty Al queda and ISIS military juggernaut ....  :lookingup:




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