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« on: August 15, 2019, 12:12:01 PM »

This was a movie that taught me a valuable lesson about the nature of people, namely that they can condemn something they haven't seen and are not likely to ever see, and try to stop you from forming your own opinion, because they feel the right to impose creative control on others.

Today the threat to liberty seems to come from the left, back then it was from the right, each dangerous in its own fashion, and TLTOC was a huge big deal when I was in school, with all these letters coming home with us from the diocese saying DO NOT SUPPORT THIS BLASPHEMOUS FILM.

My father saw it on first release, my mother didn't, and it took me another decade to get around to it on VHS, but after approaching it with a neutral, slightly rebellious, mindset, I found I loved it. Great movie. It even had Bowie as Pontius Pilate, how awesome is that?

I didn't think it was apostasy or slander, I found it was powerful and intriguing, and even if a bit removed from the heyday of the furor the movie set off, I was left with the viewpoint that if certain Christians couldn't handle the concept of Jesus set into what is clearly stated to be a work of fiction, then that put them near the level of Moslems who got their burqas in a twist over the second-rate novel The Satanic Verses.

(Note I said "near" because while the outrage was similar, outraged Christians didn't try to kill anybody, just held up signs and wrote Scorsese nasty letters.)

Really, this is a classic film that should have been sent out to stand on its own merits instead of the studio stirring the flames of controversy to make it something it wasn't----a tactic also employed with The Passion of the Christ, when a bigger buzz was created by entertaining those few critics who charged it was anti-Jewish, which is wasn't.

If you haven't seen TLTOC and have a chance to, give it a go. It might surprise you.

I'd give it an A. In fact I will. I'll give it an A.

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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2019, 08:49:38 PM »

I cant believe I've never seen this, but I will.
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2019, 10:43:47 PM »

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Today the threat to liberty seems to come from the left, back then it was from the right, each dangerous in its own fashion...

Are you kidding me?  The need to vilify the left supersedes the needs of the nation?  Horse hockey.  I assert some rightists do not want to face their dreadful mistake.  Fortunately, I know voting Republicans smart enough to know what is a lie.  We Americans do not have a Republican in the White House.  That ain't even a politician, merely fraudulent, substance-less, and out of its league.  It's frightening. 
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2019, 11:09:22 PM »

Banned by the apartheid censor board.  Question
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2019, 05:04:32 PM »

I saw both this one and The Passion of the Christ, and i liked this one better.

One difference what I thought was interesting, in this one, the nails were driven thru the wrists of the person on the cross, which is the more historically correct, and in The Passion of the Christ, the nails were driven thru the palms of the hands of the person on the cross, which is the more historically incorrect, as driving the nails thru the wrists would more likely hold the person up on the cross, while driving the nails thru the palms of the hands would less likely hold the person up on the cross.
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2019, 11:16:02 AM »

Only seen bits and pieces over the years but I was always intrigued by the original casting in 1983, before Paramount decided not to make the movie:

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The original cast included Aidan Quinn as Jesus, Sting as Pontius Pilate, Ray Davies as Judas Iscariot, and Vanity as Mary Magdalene.

I thought it was interesting that Scorcese cast three musicians, Sting, Ray Davis and Vanity for the movie. His decision was obviously influenced by MTV back then.
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2019, 11:00:56 AM »

Yeah, about that whole "liberals are the real threat to liberty" thing.

A republican state representative ntwtive write a guide to 'biblical war" in which he says that if people refuse to accept biblical law, Christians are to "kill all the males",  then "take" the women for themselves.

https://lawandcrime.com/politics/if-they-do-not-yield-kill-all-males-state-rep-defends-christian-manifesto-as-fbi-investigates/

Bring  on the smites, but this is the truth.
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2019, 08:28:25 PM »

Judging one Christians by the rantings of one nut job who has apparently never read the Gospels is morally equivalent to judging the  beliefs of all atheists by the butchery of Stalin.
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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2019, 09:07:52 PM »

Judging one Christians by the rantings of one nut job who has apparently never read the Gospels is morally equivalent to judging the  beliefs of all atheists by the butchery of Stalin.

I'm sorry indy but there's more than one. I have a relative who is not heterosexual and as such icm personally aware of the numerous ministers who call for  the extermination of gays,  and I could  show you mire than one example but won't.
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« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2019, 10:32:06 PM »

I've spent my life in the church, specifically in southern evangelical churches.
I have never heard a single pastor or church leader call for violence against gays.
I've heard them pray for people to be delivered out of that lifestyle, and I've heard them condemn the lifestyle as sinful (which is a Scriptural stance, regardless of how unpopular it has become).  But I have NEVER once heard a church leader call for gays to be killed.
Not saying it has never happened - there are the vile Fred Phelps clones out there - but they are a tiny minority of modern Christianity, who get an enormous amount of publicity because they feed the negative stereotypes some people are so eager to maintain about Christians.
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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2019, 10:54:43 PM »

There's good and bad in everything and everyone, Sven, but it's better to look toward the good. I think if you'd try to do that it would change much that's poisonous in so much of how you see the world.
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