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Allhallowsday
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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2023, 06:00:32 PM »
Quote from: Gabriel Knight on February 13, 2023, 12:02:16 PM
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A NEW HOPE is one of my least favorite movies in the saga, and sometimes I'm amazed at how it became so insanely popular in the first place.
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Y'see, STAR WARS was STAR WARS in 1977.  Is that now "STAR WARS A New Hope" with retitle?  Lookingup
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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2023, 10:04:46 PM »
There's a similar point given here:

"Why The Empire Strikes Back is overrated"

https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20200430-star-wars-why-the-empire-strikes-back-is-overrated

That might explain why I was confused when I saw the start of the second movie. I thought that the Empire experienced heavy losses at the end of the first movie, but now the rebels were on the run again. It's as if the first film was irrelevant, and what might have happened was explained only briefly in the scroll text.

I assumed, given the title of the second movie, that the Empire was at a disadvantage but found a way to strike back.
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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2023, 01:26:26 PM »
Quote from: Allhallowsday on February 13, 2023, 06:00:32 PM
Quote from: Gabriel Knight on February 13, 2023, 12:02:16 PM
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A NEW HOPE is one of my least favorite movies in the saga, and sometimes I'm amazed at how it became so insanely popular in the first place.
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Y'see, STAR WARS was STAR WARS in 1977.  Is that now "STAR WARS A New Hope" with retitle?  Lookingup

Hey, you gotta recognize them somehow.  BounceGiggle
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Allhallowsday
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« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2023, 01:35:40 PM »
Quote from: Gabriel Knight on February 14, 2023, 01:26:26 PM
Quote from: Allhallowsday on February 13, 2023, 06:00:32 PM
Quote from: Gabriel Knight on February 13, 2023, 12:02:16 PM
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A NEW HOPE is one of my least favorite movies in the saga, and sometimes I'm amazed at how it became so insanely popular in the first place.
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Y'see, STAR WARS was STAR WARS in 1977.  Is that now "STAR WARS A New Hope" with retitle?  Lookingup

Hey, you gotta recognize them somehow.  BounceGiggle

I was 16 the year STAR WARS came out.  Changing the title decades later is... oh bah-ruh-uhther...
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« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2023, 03:44:09 PM »
To me, this whole 'A New Hope' thing is symptomatic of the thing Star Wars has become. It started out as an essentially stand alone take on the Flash Gordon style SF, and then they developed this overarching mythology out of the various elements that were most popular. As the mythology grew, they had to somehow fit in the first movie and pretend that this had been planned all along. Now I am aware of the genesis of Star Wars and George Lucas's vision, but in the first trilogy they were pretty much picking and modifying whatever elements from the background saga that took their fancy.
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« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2023, 10:37:19 PM »
Inspired by Joseph Campbell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8Rg7tbBZdM

Reminds me of that scene from Reign of Fire, where kids who grew up with no electricity, TV, movies, etc., are enthralled by adults retelling the Star Wars story:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCBA1wii70o

I remember a sadder one, which I think involved kids watching an old video tape of a children's show in the movie Threads.

Finally, there's a related scene from Postman and others.
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« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2023, 10:34:45 PM »
Related:

"Liam Neeson Says ‘Star Wars’ Is Being Hurt by ‘So Many Spinoffs’: ‘It’s Taken Away the Mystery and the Magic’"

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/liam-neeson-disses-star-wars-hurt-spinoffs-1235526503/
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