An ugly story

[Flangepart]

Man.....can't think what to say. I gotta agree with Abby. She said it pretty well. A real friend would offer you the first dibs on those sites. (Sigh). It just sucks. I like the wprk on the B-masters sites, but i'll never forget this shafting of a good guy. Under the circumstances, you showed class, Marine. The Corp. should be glad to have you. I know i do. Keep up the good work, ya' old jarhead:)

[frannie]

Andrew wrote:
, but I am not an entirely brain dead Marine.
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I thought that was the only type of Marine.

(From a guy who grew up in an Army house)

[Abby]

>> Honestly, during our phone conversation, Mr. Holland asked me what I wanted to do. I said that it would take me some time to calm down and that our relations would be frosty until enough time passed.  What broke my back was his quickly putting up a domain at Badmovies.net and then deliberately insulting me with a broken link and salt-in-wound description. No way was I going to let that pass, I had not even begun to calm down as it was. <<

Well, I don't envy your position in that decision. You should never have been put in that position -- not by a colleague. If it were me, I would have done something similar -- I would have suggested a cooling off period during which the domain would remain in stasis. If I was a tokyo stomper, I wouldn't have launched anything without your consent at that point.

In light of the collaborative work y'all have done,  registering the domain without your knowledge was s**tty; launching a domain without your sign-off is unacceptable.

It's not about being paranoid, either. Because up until now, I never thought any webmaster had a need to watch his/her back. At all the sites I visit, there's a sense of camaraderie. This camaraderie existed between Badmovies.org and the various Stomp Tokyo entities. Backscratching as opposed to backstabbing. That's the way it should be in like-minded circles. And the web is based on this sense of camaraderie. The Cabal most surely was based on this principle. Those who wanted to break the communal spirit on the web so they could eat the pie by themselves ... those people all failed.

So yeah, it's a foolish chain of events in respect to community opinion. It raises eyebrows. And my brow isn't raised in Andrew's direction.

URGH!! Geez, can you tell this stuff got under my skin? Reminds me why I'm an anti-social loner.

[Cullen]

Anything I say is rather irrelevant (and would be redundent in any case) but I felt I should say that my days of haunting That Other Page are numbered.  A part of that is because of this mess, but another part is that I haven't been liking their reviews of late.  I can't say what it is; they don't seem that diffrent.

In any case, it's rather sad for me.  That Other Page was the first web Movie-Review place I hit on a regular basis.  End of an age, for me, I guess.

Like I said, my comments here matter very little one way or the other.

Hope the rest of the year goes better for you, Andrew.

[J.R.]

Kill him. Kill him and wear his flesh. Enter doors to which his flesh is the key and right the wrongs. Taste the flesh. Savor the sweet, delicious subtleties of victory.

[Nathan Shumate]

I just wanted to mention that, when, Andrew announced that he was pulling out of the Cabal, I decided to follow.  Not because of the disagreement itself; assigning right'n'wrong blame is something I try not to do when it's not my call.  But Andrew was the principal instigator of what became the B-Masters Cabal, and I felt that if he didn't feel he could stay in the clubhouse he built, then I (whom he had originally invited) couldn't in good conscience stay either.  I can confirm that Andrew was very careful not to even imply a "Choose ye this day" ultimatum; he simply announced that he could not continue in the forum of association.  And I decided that a B-Masters without Andrew would be an empty hanger-on, like a weak eighth season of a sitcom.

(I note in passing that coldfusionvideo.org and .net are still available...)

Nathan

[mr. henry]

perhapse the guys with the sneakily-nabbed domains could put up "B-masters" link pages at the controversial domains. a class move would be listing badmovies.org first and the others in equally prominent type.

it seems to me that would iron out a few wrinkles and work toward eliminating the dark cloud that will inevitably bee over the next b-fest.

-mr. henry

[J.R.]

Kill him. Kill him and wear his flesh. Enter doors to which his flesh is the key and right the wrongs. Taste the flesh. Savor the sweet, delicious flavor of victory.

[Deej]

Never liked them other damned ole websites anyhow! This is by far the superior site, and I will absolutely be here on a daily basis as I have been for the last year or so. Can we kill him...can we?
DJ

[Future Blob]

 I concur that the actions Andrew has listed sound pretty immature and annoying, as well as seem to be without real benefit to him. I also never liked that site, and have mainly restricted my reviewing to this site, Nathan's, and Liz's. That is certinally not going to change now that I've read this.

[raj]

I must concur with the others who've found this to be the better site.  I probably stumbled across the others first a couple of years ago, but for some reason this is the site I kept coming back to.

Shame on those who are so underhanded, may the only movie they can ever view be Glitter.

[Lee]

I use to think that StompTokyo was just a lame site, now I know it's a lame site run by a***oleS!!!! May Chris and Scott writhe in Hell with their stupid site.