They Live = John Carpenter's "Little Red Movie"?

[Steve.]

After the Smurfs and They Live, surely we must discuss the inter-racial fall-out in Night Of The Living Dead. Let's face it - Cooper hates Ben because he's bl... African-American - not because he's been totally humiliated by him in front of everyone else present (except Barbara, who's a basket-case). Er...will somebody start us off?  Mr. Smashy - there are worse things than being labelled a bloody commie or a namby-pamby socialist - being Canadian!  You can have two totally free jokes at the expense of the UK  for that one!  I'll have a think about your plotline Mr. Flange, although my first reaction would be to plead with the invaders to finish the job regarding the world leaders, and then for them to bugger off and leave us proles alone.

[Flangepart]

To Quote Foul Ol' Ron, "Buggerit!" Maby the Invaders leave Earth after we project the mind waves of the Worlds politicians into their brains. Think Slim Whitman can make a brain explode, try that!  When it comes to movies, Yoda was right. in there, is "Only what you take with you". ...and i bet that explains why most movies are the mental equivalant of Ju-Ju bees!...ever try to get Ju-Ju Bees out of your teeth? Think "Paint scraper".

[peter johnson]

On the post-invasion scenario:
Okay, so the aliens have won big-time, and the survivors are all scrabbling together to come to some sort of terms with it all -- There's this huge appeasement clique that just wants to get along with them & maybe co-option isn't so bad -- wait a minute, aren't I describing some late-night science fiction show already on?
Anyway, my variation would be to steal from HG Wells & have the aliens suddenly all die off from earthly viruses & leave the appeasement crowd with a hideous sort of egg on their faces -- then the film could concern itself with the fate of the collaborators, sort of post-France era WW2.
This could be a really gross picture --

[Mr.Smashy]

That would be great. I love when SF bases itself on something real. It either comes off as a wonderfully cheesy oversimplification/suckathon or is pretty good given the meduim.

Like Starship Troopers and facism. It was too farcsical to be taken as a serious critic, but the subtle joking about it was there...in parts besides the propeganda screens!

Ex: Gheshtapo outfit Carl wearing by end (and given the part about him being psychic and the hints of trying to control humans...)

EX2: the school...everything about it. From the stuff that Ironside's character spurts out to the public display of grades and the fact that everyone looks like a member of the master race in their society (the master race being handsome movie type of any race...).

ex3: the whole concept of the war. the human race must dominate. etc....the slaughter of mormon extremists was a slight hint at religious intolerance making the mormons run off again.

and so on.
Any thoughts?


Maybe I will watch the film again and post this one seperately to see the response.

[Nathan]

Steve. wrote:
>
> After the Smurfs and They Live, surely we must discuss
> the inter-racial fall-out in Night Of The Living Dead. Let's
> face it - Cooper hates Ben because he's bl...
> African-American - not because he's been totally humiliated
> by him in front of everyone else present (except Barbara,
> who's a basket-case). Er...will somebody start us off?

Which is a great hypothesis, except for the fact that the script was written without reference to color; those interactions were thus conceived without race figuring in.  Romero has always insisted that he simply chose the best actor who auditioned for the role.

Nathan

[Steve.]

You're right about that, Nathan, but I was just scratching Cooper's surface a little bit.

[Steve.]

Mr. Flange - I've tried to get many things out of my teeth, but never Ju-Ju Bees - mainly because I don't know what they are! To be quite honest, I'm dreading your answer! Actually, they sound suspiciously like some sort of warped cross between a zombie meal and honey flavoured sweeties.

[Steve.]

Peter, you're right about post-war France - the lady collaborators had their heads shaved, and then were made to literally run the gauntlet. Like you say,  the aftermath could be extremely gross.

[Flangepart]

Keeping dentist in busness. Tastes good to a kid, Texture like a dehydraited blob. Think Industrial strength Jelly babies.

[Steve.]

I really don't want to think of industrial-strength jelly babies. Now industrial strength twinkies is a different matter...

[Flangepart]

Industrial strength Twinkies....that describes most of what comes out of Hollywood. As well as the movies!

[Steve.]

Too true mate, too bleedin' true.