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Best B-Film Character

Started by Cloudio, August 03, 2001, 05:11:38 PM

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peter johnson

So, okay, we get a possible definition here in the form of SPIRIT.  Fine.  I can live with that.
Indeed, by this definition, we have a vast fake ouvre category to explore:  That of the "Intentionally Bad".  Isn't all of the Troma output to be included here?  What about Fred Olen Ray?
Okay, so if it's intentionally bad B, then it's one of ours.
I dunno -- doesn't seem quite right, somehow --
It seems to me that the real Bad Movies that give the most pleasure would only be those which were originally made to be considered as actually GOOD  movies that somehow went wrong.
Andrew . . . Oh, Andrew. . . We call to you. . . What is our boundry?  Please define . . .

philo9

i only need 2 words-bruce campbell

Flangepart

Hey, Welcome back,Andrew! P.J. raises a good point. I think the deliberatly bad movies should be in a sub-section of their own. The best bad films, And i'm talkin' MST fodder here, are the pretentious ones that don't realise they have a booger on their figurative mustach. THAT makes a good/bad film. After all, what better foil for, say, Groucho Marx, then Margret DuMont. The Perfect straitwoman. Groucho:" Darling, you may think me silly, but could i have a lock of your hair?"  M.D.: "A lock of my hair? why i'v never.". Groucho:" I'm letting you off easy, i was gonna' ask for the whole wig."

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AndyC

I think I might want to reconsider the word 'intentional.' You make a good point about the intentionally bad movies. I don't particulary like Troma films either. They're like the idiot who laughs too hard at his own jokes, while lacking the best joke of any bad movie - that the makers seriously believed it was good. Somewhat artificial, really.

I think by 'intentional' I meant the sort of filmmaking represented by the direct-to-video releases of the 80s. These people knew they weren't making Citizen Kane and didn't try to. They set out to provide a couple of hours' worth of cheap entertainment, to separate teenagers from their money. The main concern was in getting the target audience to pick up the box and it shows. Perhaps the intention was not to make them bad, but nobody was going for greatness either.

Those movies have a lot in common with the true B-movies. Just the same, I do agree that the best bad movies are the ones that set out to be good.

My point is really that the strict definition of a B-movie as the opening half of a double feature is rather limiting, particularly since double features are really a thing of the past.

Ringneck

Guys; my favorite characters from the movies are Wallach's "Tuco" from  "TGTBTE", (Eastwood and Van Cleef are up there too from that trio of movies), Burt Reynolds character in "White Lightning", Jerry Reed's character " 'Bama McCall" in "Gator", and Ned Beatty in "White Lightning".  

 All time favorite of ANY movie is Bill McKinney's crazy character in "Thunderbolt and Lightfoot".  He wa the one driving the '72 Plymoth with his pet raccoon and and a trunk full of white rabbits.  Had the exhaust vented ot the insdie of the car too, and to top it off he talked like a hair lip.   100% hilarious!!!!!!!!!

BradLaGrange

Raffles

I think it goes against the nature of b film to organize it or really do anything with it in any way.