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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2004, 02:50:37 PM »

Burton's Big Fish and Edward Scissorhands wasn't so dark I thought...lots of imagination in a haunted childlike way..bright in some areas.  I think the film perfect for his style.  Willy Wonka was not all bright in fun in the original either.
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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2004, 05:47:20 PM »

1. Stop the remakes!
2. Who could possibly top the original Veruca Salt?
3. Depp is a god cast for this movie, but I liked the original enough that I don't think i'd pay to see a remake.

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The question is with Burton at the helm will this be a movie for kids, for adults, will it be a musical?  Burton will try too hard to make it dark. The great thing about the original is on the surface it looked innocent, candy and children and songs and music. But there was a very dark undertone that made it feel far more creepier

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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2004, 07:10:50 PM »

When I heard Depp would play Wonka, I immediately felt good about this movie. Of the current crop of actors, he's the one who can pull it off. He has a knack for playing eccentrics.

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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2004, 02:25:15 PM »

If anyone can pull off a remake of such a great, classic movie, it's Tim Burton. And if anyone can hope to hold a candle to Gene Wilder's Willy Wonka it's Johnny Depp, who I think is the greatest actor of our time. The guy can play anything!

However, I won't be walking into the theaters expecting pure gold. There's a chance this movie could go horribly, horribly wrong. Tim's movies haven't been all that great lately (except for "Big Fish"). He could end up turning "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" into another "Planet of the Apes."
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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2004, 04:45:33 PM »

Agreed that Planet of the Apes went awry, but it wasn't really a good fit for Burton. A big-budget sci-fi action remake just doesn't seem Burtonesque to me.

Now, a surreal movie set in a candy factory, full of magic and wonder, yet subtly menacing - that has Burton written all over it. I mean, there is some concern here that he'll make it too dark, but I don't think so. I think Burton understands what made the original great. If anybody appreciates the fun of wrapping the dark and sinister in a magical candy coating, he does.

Likewise, a stylish character who is loopy and lovable, with a hint of cruelty, is a role perfectly suited to Depp.

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« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2004, 04:48:42 PM »

I can see Depp, but Wilder had that perfect look. The eyes of a possably...possably...very calmly mad man.

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« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2004, 06:48:10 PM »

depp in the role, he's very commercially appealing right now after Pirates movie. You know the studio is going to try and meddle as much as possible in the production.

I keep imagining they're going to dress Depp up like Vlad in dracula



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« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2004, 06:56:09 PM »

Yes...that was how I pretty much imagined Depp looking in the new film.

I envisioned him with the traditional purple suit like in the original but I have a feeling Burton will change that.

What color do you think Wonka's suit will be?
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Susan
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« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2004, 07:21:55 PM »

maybe he'll wear a dress. What could be creepier than a grown man wanting a select few children to come to his house and take candy from him while wearing his mothers dress. Norman bates meets michael jackson.

Seirously who knows. Maybe an irredescent suit, shiny colors that change in different lights. The sort of look like the villian in Unbreakable. The problem is - who is thim targeted at? the original was clearly for kids, even tho years later some of us are still in therapy while others drop acid while viewing it. The target audience means everything in the type of film he decides to make it.

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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2004, 02:26:48 PM »

Grampa Joe is the worst- that guy is evil! What a lazy bastard

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« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2004, 02:49:35 PM »

Susan wrote:

>  The great thing about the original is
> on the surface it looked innocent, candy and children and songs
> and music. But there was a very dark undertone that made it
> feel far more creepier

Well put.
It's a fun kids' movie, but when you see it again it's creepy from the grandparents to Willie.

Will Gene Wilder have any role in this?
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« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2004, 02:52:53 PM »

There's no mention of Gene playing any part in this remake on IMDB.
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« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2004, 06:28:31 PM »

Rats!
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« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2004, 06:29:32 PM »

Although. . . he did get up, it's the three others who were real lazy SoBs
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« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2004, 05:45:46 PM »

Johnny Depp is a great pick for that role, but you can't remake something that still works like the original. In fact it would be a waste of time to remake it. It just dosn't make sense. That's my two cents.

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