Random Thought Thread Part III: The Thinking

[ER]

Ever loved someone but you just can't stand this person?

[Leah]

Ever loved someone but you just can't stand this person?

My older sister is that person. You can make plans, have it play out the way you want it to, but she's the wild card.

[Trevor]

Ever loved someone but you just can't stand this person?

Yes but it's the other way around with me sometimes: I tell someone that I love them and then the answer is 

[Alex]

Ever loved someone but you just can't stand this person?

No. The closest I have is sleeping with someone I didn't like (which I've done several times for various reasons).

[LilCerberus]

I'm finally gonna say it!
If CLOWNS are supposed to be scary, then what in the hell am I supposed to think of some gaudy looking Drag Queen?

[ER]

I'm finally gonna say it!
If CLOWNS are supposed to be scary, then what in the hell am I supposed to think of some gaudy looking Drag Queen?

I think people's "fear" of clowns is in most cases a fashionable affectation. As for drag queens, well, we live in a time of such overreaction of supposed approval of the gay community by heterosexuals that even if the average person felt outright terror at the sight of a man in drag, few would feel at liberty to divulge it.

[lester1/2jr]

Christians believe Jesus was the savior. Jews believe he wasn't the real savior, but there is one who is still to come.
Why is it considered a logical, accepted thing in western thought for there to be a human savior? How do you wrestle that out of the 10 commandments?

[Alex]

Solstice greetings everyone. Remember the days only get longer from this point on.

[ER]

Solstice greetings everyone. Remember the days only get longer from this point on.

You beat me to it. Happy solstice, everyone. (I like long nights.  )

[LilCerberus]

Solstice greetings everyone. Remember the days only get longer from this point on.

You beat me to it. Happy solstice, everyone. (I like long nights.  )

I thought it was tomorrow.....

[Alex]

Solstice greetings everyone. Remember the days only get longer from this point on.

You beat me to it. Happy solstice, everyone. (I like long nights.  )

I thought it was tomorrow.....

If it helps:

[ER]

Christians believe Jesus was the savior. Jews believe he wasn't the real savior, but there is one who is still to come.
Why is it considered a logical, accepted thing in western thought for there to be a human savior? How do you wrestle that out of the 10 commandments?

The ten commandments? I don't think anyone has ever tried to say those represent the totality of divine law or revelation. Prophecies concerning an impending Messiah are found throughout Jewish scripture, with Jesus famously fulfilling most of them, despite what my Talmudic scholar friend Dan used to tell me. ("Those passages weren't talking about a man, they concerned Israel!") Unlike most Jews I know, who trip over the old "great teacher, not divine" copout, as if a lying madman/conman could be worth Christians following, Dan seemed to viscerally hate Jesus lock, stock and barrel.

[LilCerberus]

Solstice greetings everyone. Remember the days only get longer from this point on.

You beat me to it. Happy solstice, everyone. (I like long nights.  )

I thought it was tomorrow.....

If it helps:

Oh, yeah.....
Forgot to cross today off my calendar.....

[lester1/2jr]

ER - or maybe they were just miserable and wanted for there to be a savior. Your friend is probably correct from his own perspective, Jesus wasn't really the military, nationalist sort of savior they described as coming to save them.

An asteroid saved us from dinosaur domination, things change gradually over generations in modern times usually.

other than being predicted by some guy at some point, I don't see the underlying logic in a human savior as there usually are with other Biblical things. its arbitrary

[ER]

ER - or maybe they were just miserable and wanted for there to be a savior. Your friend is probably correct from his own perspective, Jesus wasn't really the military, nationalist sort of savior they described as coming to save them.

An asteroid saved us from dinosaur domination, things change gradually over generations in modern times usually.

other than being predicted by some guy at some point, I don't see the underlying logic in a human savior as there usually are with other Biblical things. its arbitrary

Can you reconcile aging, memory, gravity, or for that matter existence itself with logic? Reality and logic are seldom in bed together. Some things simply are. Also remember the claim is not that Jesus was a human savior but a divine savior incarnate as a human.

Because I don't want this to turn into a long thread of point and counterpoint, please don't be offended if I don't continue this discussion, though it is not an uninteresting one. I think you and I have made our outlooks on theology clear enough to one another in the past for either of us to need to clarify them here. I did enjoy taking a moment to think about your post though.