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Title: Disney buys Pixar.....
Post by: pops_mcfly on January 25, 2006, 10:39:06 AM
Be afraid. be VERY afraid.
Title: Re: Disney buys Pixar.....
Post by: ulthar on January 25, 2006, 10:42:37 AM
Why? Disney and Pixar have been "together" for years.  I think this is more of a formality.
Title: Re: Disney buys Pixar.....
Post by: trekgeezer on January 25, 2006, 10:59:32 AM
Pixar told Disney to take a hike last year. Eisner and Jobs didn't get along too well. The new guy at Disney has been trying to make nice with Pixar since he took over.

Steve Jobs will now be the majority shareholder in Disney and have a seat on the Board of Directors. This is a whole lot more than a formality.

Pixar will still be a more or less separate entity, although I understand this is going to open up a lot of opportunity for their artists to get other projects. This is going to be interesting to watch.
Title: Re: Disney buys Pixar.....
Post by: ulthar on January 25, 2006, 11:20:02 AM
My point was basically: why should we 'be afraid' of this?

Pixar has probably the single highest density of creative tallent of any group making movies.  And their success record stands on its own. Disney, at least the film making division, has been floundering for a while; their stories have stunk and their old-school 2-D animation techniques just don't make the grade visually against modern CGI.  (I'm not saying there is no place for the look of hand drawn 2D, but as the basis for a full length feature, it just won't satisfy most contemporary audiences).

So, this is a business move, and probably a good one.  Jobs is a pretty smart guy, and one big piece of evidence for his intelligence is that at Pixar, he stayed the heck out of the way and let the creative folks, like Lasseter, do their thing.  To me, the real important piece of the puzzle in this is that Lasseter is becoming an exec at Disney as well.
Title: Re: Disney buys Pixar.....
Post by: trekgeezer on January 25, 2006, 11:29:35 AM
The real thing to watch is how Jobs will fit in on the Disney board. Disney is an old school company with a boatload of  content they keep recycling. Jobs is a look to the future guy. I guess if we're lucky he'll rub off on the rest the company.
Title: Re: Disney buys Pixar.....
Post by: ulthar on January 25, 2006, 11:34:42 AM
I don't see how he can't rub off on them...the shareholders are bound to be looking at Pixar's recent successes/popularity and Disney's slide into 'oblivion.'  I agree; it will be interesting to watch.  My prediction is that Disney will become the war chest to Pixar's creativity.

But you are right - some of the old schoolers at Disney may give up their power reluctantly.
Title: Re: Disney buys Pixar.....
Post by: akiratubo on January 25, 2006, 08:47:11 PM
So much for good Pixar movies.
Title: Re: Disney buys Pixar.....
Post by: pops_mcfly on January 26, 2006, 12:26:46 PM
Be afraid of how Disney will screw up Pixar's reputation and be afraid of Disney's attempts to do a decent sequel to movies like "The Incredibles"  "Monsters Inc." etc.
Title: Re: Disney buys Pixar.....
Post by: ulthar on January 26, 2006, 12:34:11 PM
For what it's worth, I think (and this is just my opinion) that you have it backwards in terms of who is controlling who.  With Jobs on the board and John Lasseter (the real brains behind Pixar's success) as a Chief AND Pixar's President high in the food chain at Disney now too, it is clear that Pixar is 'taking control' over Disney (at least the creative animation side of things), not the other way around.

As long as Lasseter is in a decision-making position, only quality will be released.  Actually, Lasseter's new position gives him power over the theme parks, too.

I could be wrong, but Pixar has the real power (recent success and a LOT of tallent on board) no matter what corporate logo gets top billing on the packaging.
Title: Re: Disney buys Pixar.....
Post by: daveblackeye15 on January 26, 2006, 09:10:19 PM
Up next is Finding Nemo:the Series! After that is the premier of "Incredibles II: Attack of Death Beam".
Title: Well-Seems Lasseter has creative control after all
Post by: ulthar on January 29, 2006, 08:54:00 PM
John Lasseter has killed the Toy Story 3 project; seems he does not want to dilute the Pixar successes the 3+ redos.

Article Here (http://news.independent.co.uk/business/news/article341627.ece)
Title: Re: Disney buys Pixar.....
Post by: LH-C on January 30, 2006, 02:29:13 PM
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Yeah, I just saw the tv ad this morning for 'Bambi 2'! I thought I was going to be ill!
Title: Re: Disney buys Pixar.....
Post by: Fearless Freep on January 30, 2006, 06:37:18 PM
I think basically Disney gave PIxar money so Pixar could have Disney's distribution chain
Title: Re: Disney buys Pixar.....
Post by: pops_mcfly on January 31, 2006, 12:30:34 PM
I bet I can still make you guys sick.

I read the plans for TS3 in an article that talked about what Disney wanted to do for the third and it defenetly woulda been a flop---a Neverending Story sequel type of ordeal for the new generation.

here they are--and I promise i am not making this up.

It was gonna be a direct to video release-surefire sign of a flop

NONE of the voices from the original--none one wanted to do a third sequel-especially one direct to video.

The plot was going to have Buzz getting recalled to Taiwan because he was defective.

and the the worst thing for this movie?

TRADITIONAL ANIMATION!---This is because at the time Disney and Pixar were not getting along and CGI was too expensive at that point in Disney's opinion so they were gonna take the cheap way out

Title: Re: Disney buys Pixar.....
Post by: ulthar on January 31, 2006, 03:23:05 PM
All good reasons for Lasseter to nix it.  Rest easy, TS3 is no more.

Now, put that same hopeful "please, PLEASE don't make that movie" energy into some of the other projects they have on the slate.

And have faith in Lasseter.  He's no fool.
Title: Re: Disney buys Pixar.....
Post by: dean on January 31, 2006, 05:38:59 PM

Hey pops, that hand drawn animation version reminds me of the fact that the exact same thing happened to Stuart Little [straight to video, normal animation and no original cast] for the 3rd [I think] film.

Gah, it's all so frustrating when that sort of thing happens.
Title: Re: Disney buys Pixar.....
Post by: LH-C on January 31, 2006, 06:03:35 PM
Disney is just too...weird isn't the word I'm looking for. They just seem to sanitize (and worse) everything they touch. And I hate that their name is above the title of 'Tron'.
Title: Lassiter bringing back classic 2d animation
Post by: trekgeezer on February 13, 2006, 10:02:27 AM
Looks like their aquistion of Pixar may bring Disney back to the front in quality family entertainment. I especially like the part where he is canning the direct to video sequels to Disney's classic films.

Check it out here (http://www.sewardstreet.com/2006/02/it_just_keeps_g.html).
Title: Re: Disney buys Pixar.....
Post by: LH-C on February 13, 2006, 11:06:24 AM
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I'm sure they'll be getting a ton of dough from their latest batch (Bambi 2 and ilk) though.
Title: Re: Disney buys Pixar.....
Post by: ulthar on February 13, 2006, 12:29:13 PM
Well, we WON'T be watching or buying Bambi 2, that's for sure.  But we are going to get the new release of Lady and the Tramp.  You know, the whole voting with our dollars sort of thing.

Too bad Lasseter could not stop Bambi 2, but that one was just too far gone.
Title: Re: Disney buys Pixar.....
Post by: LH-C on February 13, 2006, 12:55:27 PM
I wonder how much they paid Patrick Stewart for 'Bambi 2'.
Title: Re: Disney buys Pixar.....
Post by: odinn7 on February 13, 2006, 01:16:48 PM
ulthar Wrote:
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> Too bad Lasseter could not stop Bambi 2, but that
> one was just too far gone.

Yes, we certainly needed a sequel to to a classic like Bambi 60 some odd years after it's original release.


Title: Re: Disney buys Pixar.....
Post by: Fearless Freep on February 14, 2006, 04:56:27 AM

Yes, we certainly needed a sequel to to a classic like Bambi 60 some odd years after it's original release.


Yeah, especially when so many of the original actors have aged so much or have died