I mean in the sense that it now seems to have a dozen sequels. The first two were good and cute family movie fodder....but when part three came out with a whole new cast(the cousins of the original family) was when the flicks jumped the shark. Actually let me rephrase that--Beethoven jumped the shark TWICE. Something that rarely happens. The first was with the "cousins" babysitting him while the original family went on vacation--a little hard to swallow considering they took him on their vacation in part 2.
So Beethoven(missing his pups and mate Missy by the way) stayed with the new family on through another sequel--a fourth film--why he wasn't returned to the original family is incredibly confusing.....however that isn't anything compared to what happens next.
A fifth movie was made and Beethoven was given to yet ANOTHER family! This is the same dog that was supposedly loved by the original family? Some love letting your brother and his family give your dog away and all......
Yes, but the burning question that still remains is why did they name him Beethoven in the first place?
Because Bartok or Stravinsky just don't sound good in a family movie title. Think about it, "Bartok 2: The Revenge" just sounds better than "101 Bartoks"...
I think we can take lesson from history to answer this question. Let's go all the way back to 1920 when Warner Brothers Studios was struggling to make a profit. It wasn't making very good cartoons as that wasn't where the real money laid, rather the minor studio specialized in making the "b" pictures of a double bill, and serials. It was in the search of a new and profitable serial when they stumbled upon a gold mine in the form of a dog named Rin Tin Tin. Rin Tin Tin was so popular and so successful that incarnations of the dog have been reappearing in film and television even today ever since its inception. I remember watching a series called The Adventures of Rin Tin Tin where Rin Tin Tin was a police dog owned by a cop with a son who had his own school problems in the early 1990's. In fact, there's a Rin Tin Tin in training right now. Rin Tin Tin actually saved the Warner Brothers studio from ruin when the serial proved so profitable, they were able to bankroll further feature length films and go on to become the reason Vitaphone and the sound on disc processes were to dominate the industry at the beginning of the sound era. The Beethoven franchise might in fact be saving Universal Pictures in popularity of DVD sales. Plus, John Hughes wrote the first Beethoven, and that may be why it's had so many imitators.
Just Plain Horse Wrote:
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> Because Bartok or Stravinsky just don't sound good
> in a family movie title. Think about it, "Bartok
> 2: The Revenge" just sounds better than "101
> Bartoks"...
What about Bartok the Magnificent (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0197273/)?
I can sing it now: "Bartok the Magnificent! Undeniably, reliably magnificent!"
Personally, I much prefer AIR BUD and his many, many sequels to BEETHOVEN.
Mofo Rising Wrote:
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>
> What about Bartok the Magnificent?
>
> I can sing it now: "Bartok the Magnificent!
> Undeniably, reliably magnificent!"
>
> Personally, I much prefer AIR BUD and his many,
> many sequels to BEETHOVEN.
That entire post is just wrong. Have you ever considered getting some type of treatment? Maybe seeing a professional for help?
Do we have to go through this again?
sigh. Guess so.
They named him Beethoven because he was barking out one of Beethoven's so-called "classics" along with the kid who was playing it on the piano.
Yes, that is what I have heard but have you ever considered that he may not have been barking that at all? Perhaps it was Russian code for the KGB? It may also have been some sort of brainwashing plot by the government.
Skaboi Wrote:
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> Mofo Rising Wrote:
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>
> >
> > What about Bartok the Magnificent?
> >
> > I can sing it now: "Bartok the Magnificent!
> > Undeniably, reliably magnificent!"
> >
> > Personally, I much prefer AIR BUD and his
> many,
> > many sequels to BEETHOVEN.
>
>
> That entire post is just wrong. Have you ever
> considered getting some type of treatment? Maybe
> seeing a professional for help?
>
> __________________________________________________
> ________
> "Give a guy a gun, he thinks he's Superman. Give
> him two and he thinks he's God."
>
>
I... I used to work at Hollywood Video.
There's no cure.
I think you mean 'Beethoven is the new Land Before Time'.
Mofo Rising Wrote:
> I... I used to work at Hollywood Video.
>
> There's no cure.
>
Dear God! You poor soul! Yet, I can't help but think you've proven my point... Hey kids, let's watch a movie about an albino bat! Nothin' says 'cute' like an albino bat.... right? How long before a movie about Jerry, the belching sea cucumber comes out.... :(
PS: Tell me, at Hollywood Video... do they make a point of trying to screen out anyone who has extensive knoweledge of good movies?
Just Plain Horse Wrote:
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> Mofo Rising Wrote:
>
> > I... I used to work at Hollywood Video.
> >
> > There's no cure.
> >
>
> Dear God! You poor soul! Yet, I can't help but
> think you've proven my point... Hey kids, let's
> watch a movie about an albino bat! Nothin' says
> 'cute' like an albino bat.... right? How long
> before a movie about Jerry, the belching sea
> cucumber comes out....
>
> PS: Tell me, at Hollywood Video... do they make a
> point of trying to screen out anyone who has
> extensive knoweledge of good movies?
Actually, I liked BARTOK, if only because I thought Hank Azaria's voice was hilarious. I don't remember anything else about it except for that small snippet of song.
The policy at Hollywood was that we could either watch G-rated animated Disney movies, or the screener tape. I'd watch Bartok and others because I do not need to hear any Disney songs ever again. Or the screener tape.
Hollywood wasn't bad, just not good. The screening is self-selected, as anybody with a modicum of intelligence is not going to stay long. It's a low-paying job, staffed mostly by teenagers and people foolish enough to stay long enough to become a manager. All replaceable, so who cares?
I was actually very knowledgeable about movies, good and bad. I could usually identify which movie people were looking for in several sentences of poor description. But I only lasted three months or so before I quit, even though I had no other job prospects.
Hollywood is the retarded cousin Blockbuster, but I can't say working there is the worst thing I ever did. Just one of them jobs.
Skaboi Wrote:
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> Mofo Rising Wrote:
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>
> >
> > What about Bartok the Magnificent?
> >
> > I can sing it now: "Bartok the Magnificent!
> > Undeniably, reliably magnificent!"
> >
> > Personally, I much prefer AIR BUD and his
> many,
> > many sequels to BEETHOVEN.
>
>
> That entire post is just wrong. Have you ever
> considered getting some type of treatment? Maybe
> seeing a professional for help?
I can't believe that someone on here is giving someone else on here a hard time for liking crap????!!!!! Surely here of all places we should be celebrating the diversity of crap that our brothers and sisters on here love?
>
> __________________________________________________
> ________
> "Give a guy a gun, he thinks he's Superman. Give
> him two and he thinks he's God."
>
>
Rombles Wrote:
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> Skaboi Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> > That entire post is just wrong. Have you
> > ever
> > considered getting some type of treatment?
> > Maybe
> > seeing a professional for help?
>
> I can't believe that someone on here is giving
> someone else on here a hard time for liking
> crap????!!!!! Surely here of all places we should
> be celebrating the diversity of crap that our
> brothers and sisters on here love?
Don't worry about me, Rombles. I've got information on Skaboi he'd rather not be made public. Or shall I tell them, Skaboi, about your inordinate fondness for the movie THE ADVENTURES OF MILO AND OTIS?
Oh, wait. That's still me. Aw, crap.
Hey Mofo, don't go around joking about Milo and Otis; that film rocked!
:-P
Scottie Wrote:
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> I think we can take lesson from history to answer
> this question. Let's go all the way back to 1920
> when Warner Brothers Studios was struggling to
> make a profit. It wasn't making very good cartoons
> as that wasn't where the real money laid, rather
> the minor studio specialized in making the "b"
> pictures of a double bill, and serials. It was in
> the search of a new and profitable serial when
> they stumbled upon a gold mine in the form of a
> dog named Rin Tin Tin. Rin Tin Tin was so popular
> and so successful that incarnations of the dog
> have been reappearing in film and television even
> today ever since its inception. I remember
> watching a series called The Adventures of Rin Tin
> Tin where Rin Tin Tin was a police dog owned by a
> cop with a son who had his own school problems in
> the early 1990's. In fact, there's a Rin Tin Tin
> in training right now. Rin Tin Tin actually saved
> the Warner Brothers studio from ruin when the
> serial proved so profitable, they were able to
> bankroll further feature length films and go on to
> become the reason Vitaphone and the sound on disc
> processes were to dominate the industry at the
> beginning of the sound era. The Beethoven
> franchise might in fact be saving Universal
> Pictures in popularity of DVD sales.
That's a scary thought... Jaws and King Kong bowing to Beethoven.