Have you ever wondered which movie was the FIRST to use the following scenes/dialogue:
* People in some very high place, and one of them says, "Whatever you do, DON'T LOOK DOWN!"
* A cop throwing his badge on the police chief's desk after the chief just chewed him out.
* People hiding from a villain or monster and one of them saying, "When I give the signal, RUN, and DON'T LOOK BACK!"
* Someone saying, "Do this for [name]. He/she would have wanted it that way!"
* An ex-convict saying, "I'd rather die than go back to the joint."
* The hero saying, "Man shouldn't meddle with nature [or the will of God, or something like that . . . ]"
Who is responsible for starting this madness??????
Similar to the hiding and running one that you mention but what about when one gets shot or injured in some way and they tell the other one(s)- "Go...leave me behind and save yourself!"
Good topic...as far as who started it all? I suspect it was some sort of government mind control experiment that got out of hand.
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"Go...leave me behind and save yourself!"
Can't name a specific, but did that not start with the WWII movies from the 40's/50's?
The 40s/50s WWII movie line was closer to
'You go. I'll hold them off.' which seems to me like a hold-over from westerns.
More for the list....
"Doctor, is he...... (dead)?"
"You don't understand! You're tampering with things beyond your control!"
After being called insan the scientist will say "Yes! We're all insane!"
They do that one a lot right?
What about those sarcastic puns you always hear from Arnold Schwartzenegger about how he killed one of his foes?
I think they actually started with James "I gave him the boot" Bond.
I remember the one from George Lazenby as Bond. He and Diana Rigg are skiing away from the bad guys when one of them falls under the snowblower clearing the road. "My, he had a lot of guts!"
There is also a non-verbal version of " Leave me behind" phrase. The knowing look exchanged between the hero and the brave wounded soul about to sacrifice himself by setting off the bomb or grenade to slow down the pursuers so the hero and rest of the main cast can escape.
I actually think these cliches must have started on cave paintings.
"Mad? Was Ceasar mad? Was Alexander mad? Was Napolean mad? Was Hitler mad?"
"They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Leewenhook. Now they're laughing at me."
in their endless variations; military, scientific etc.
"Run, and don't look back!" would actually have its roots in Genesis, wherein Lot's wife is implored not to look back at the destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah. And we all know what happened to her . . .
I can't do the ones mentioned, but I do know that the very first film to shoot down a sprial staircase from the very centre, giving that "inside the snail" look, was Fritz Lang's "M", 1932.
The film origin of someone being implored not to meddle with the realm of God would seem to come from the 1910 Edison version of Mary Shelly's "Frankenstien".
I think the cliche of the ex-con saying he'd rather die than go back to the joint may come from "Angels With Dirty Faces", 1932, but I could be wrong.
peter johnson/denny crane
That whole story about Lot's wife was cooked up by Lot to cover the fact that he bumped her off. If no one was supposed to look back, how do they know what happened to her? Unless Lot was behind her, in which case he could quite easily have knifed/clubbed/strangled her with no one the wiser. This also clears the path for him to nail both of his daughters while 'drunk'....
Oh yeah? So who concocted the "salt", wise guy?
Are you saying it was all a frameup, Shadowphile?
Were the witnesses paid off?
Oh, Shadowphile, you're much too good for this one-camel town . . .
peter johnson/denny crane
channeling Ida Lupino . . .
Everyone else was running ahead. Logical, seeing as how they were younger than Lot and his wife. I seriously doubt anyone returned to the scene of the crime to check Lot's story, seeing as how they ended up in the mountains, so we only have Lot's word on what happened...
Monster victim empties his gun into the monster, then throws the gun at it.
Hmm, sounds like the makings of Dan Brown's next book: The Lot Code.
How did this whimsical topic turn into a religious discussion . . . and another potentially controversial Dan Brown book?
Whimsy is a conspiracy . . .
George Lamasa's translation of the Aramaic Pes**tta text points out that by saying "pillar of salt", the author of this section of Genesis was using a colloquialism that means she became petrified with fear and died, not that she turned into a literal pillar of salt --
BUT, far more significant, and despite the Bible movies of our time, Lot and his entire group -- including his wife -- had ALREADY entered safely into the haven city of Zoar & settled in, and Lot's wife looked toward Gomorrah & watched the confligration AFTER they'd already gotten into safety in the city, so Lot COULDN"T have murdered her on the plains of Sodom -- we must assume there were witnesses to her dropping dead from fear (Genesis 19: 20-26).
She still could've been murdered, but not by Lot . . .
peter crane/denny johnson
I saw something on PBS once about the Dead Sea. At some point, some geologist was talking about how they found some ancient ruins, and how theirs a bunch of sulfur & obnoxious fumes in that area, and he speculated that the destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah could've been caused by lightning ignited the sulfur, which in turn set off the obnoxious fumes causing a big explosion that sent a bunch of salt & sulfur into the sky, which in turn came raining down on Sodom & Gomorrah, and that one of the giant slabs of salt may have landed on Lot's wife, thus making it scientificly feesable to reasonably assume that she was killed by aliens playing with matches.
In the meantime, I believe that their really is beer in Heaven, but I can wait.
The old boy killed her. It's not difficult to kill in front of witnesses and get away with it. After all, Quincy hadn't been born and CSI was a long way off.....
The Lot Code.... heh
I'll read it but I'll take anything I find inside it with a grain of salt....
Ohhh! Crafty . . . crafty . . .
Well, do you suppose the daughters were in on it, then? I mean, did they have motive?
It would have been very difficult to stage, but I suppose not out of the realm of possibility --
Personally, I think it's a rumour spread by the Moabites and the Ammonites to justify their origins.
Lot's wife actually went on to run gambling houses in Caanan. She faked her death to avoid publicity.
peter johnson/denny crane
Well, according to the Bible, the daughters got Lot drunk so they could seduce him. Somehow, I just can't see that happening. I think Lot blamed them to make himself feel like less of a pervert.
Except the daughters have the narrative control at that point in the story --
Seriously, at that point it's a tribal origins story that "explains" the origins of the tribes of Moab and Ammon -- a point not even Orthodox Jews are that concerned with these days . . . well, possibly it still matters to the Mormons . . .
Yeah, Lot was a bastard -- he should've stuck with the numbers racket & not drifted off into hospitality. The sex with daughters thing is a fair cop, but I don't think we can stick the death of his wife on him --
I remember when he used to run this nice little bistro south of San Diego -- best seafood north of Baja . . .
peter johnson/denny crane
Didn't he have a brother in Egypt who sold livestock? Called his business Camelot?
That's the guy!
Had to quit the Camel racket -- got into discount plagues for a bit, but nothing really stuck for him --
peter johnson/denny crane
peter johnson Wrote:
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> That's the guy!
> Had to quit the Camel racket -- got into discount
> plagues for a bit, but nothing really stuck for
> him --
> peter johnson/denny crane
Actually, that was me, except I wasn't a livestock salesman at Camelot, I was a Product Demonstrater for a jewely pollish called Sparkle It, and I'm not actually his brother, but rather his father-in-law's stepson, which I guess makes us kinda' like brothers, but I've only met him twice.
I hope this clears things up!
Clear as mud. Gotta hate those cut rate plagues. They never give full value. Bought the Black Plague for 30% of the regular price but all I ended up with was a Blue Funk....