I'm not sure how many people listen/watch Podcasts but one podcast I'm a huge fan of is GeekScape... it's a punk music video director and he does his episodes with like other filmmaker/scriptwriter friends in LA... this past episode they were reviewing the Hitcher Remake and said that Dave Meyer (director of the Hitcher and When a Stranger Calls remakes) has announced that his next film is going to be a remake of Friday the 13th except it's not going to be Jason's Mom anymore in this one; it's going to be Jason and it'll show you how he found his hockey mask (which as we know f**ks up the first 3 movies of the series 2 of which being the few good movies in the series)
This might be the worst news in Horror movie news (besides the rumored Evil Dead Remake)... I mean at least with Halloween I'm curious on what Rob Zombie is going to do with it
Why are these directors f**king with cult classics that aren't even like 20-25 years old
Probably because most of these directors are 20-25 years old and therefore the movie is really old (to them) and there can't possibly be anyone left alive that saw them when they were a new release. So it has to be re-released with all the lastest greatest CGI-techno-super-duper-special effects as the old ones were just hokey. Just a theory.
Quote from: CheezeFlixz on February 13, 2007, 03:25:06 PM
Probably because most of these directors are 20-25 years old and therefore the movie is really old (to them) and there can't possibly be anyone left alive that saw them when they were a new release. So it has to be re-released with all the lastest greatest CGI-techno-super-duper-special effects as the old ones were just hokey. Just a theory.
So true. That p**ses me off just a little. Doesn't that p**s you off just a little?
Quote from: CoreyHeldpen on February 13, 2007, 09:27:03 PM
Quote from: CheezeFlixz on February 13, 2007, 03:25:06 PM
Probably because most of these directors are 20-25 years old and therefore the movie is really old (to them) and there can't possibly be anyone left alive that saw them when they were a new release. So it has to be re-released with all the lastest greatest CGI-techno-super-duper-special effects as the old ones were just hokey. Just a theory.
So true. That p**ses me off just a little. Doesn't that p**s you off just a little?
Better to be p**sed off than p**sed on ... it is somewhat annoying they can't seem to think up a great new movie, so they take a great old movie and screw it up.
Yes that p**ses me off a little and I'm even younger than they are.
Yeah, but wait'll you see my Claymation/techno-disco/Emo/Crunk remake of Citizen Kane!!!
peter auteur/denny orifice
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I think I'm probably one of the older posters here (nearly 40) and I have seen most of the original great fright flicks like When A Stranger Calls, Halloween,\
Dawn Of The Dead and others.
Let me say this: I don't like remakes of classics at all. I agree with the OP that they are buggering around with them. Rather re-release the originals and make money that way.
Remakes I have avoided:
The Hills Have Eyes
Dawn Of The Dead
When A Stranger Calls
I believe that there are remakes of It, HellRaiser and Halloween in the works....................someone borrow my eyes now, please. :hatred:
GOD@#%$#%$#$#%DAMNIT$#@$%$^###&$&#$%#f^&$#$SHI###what the hell are they doing? These movies are F#%$ classics! What gives them the right to take someone else's work and screw it up? Is hollywood that short of ideas that they have to keep spinning out the same films just to make a quick buck? :hatred: I can only hope the same thing happens as it did with that Suspiria remake - It'll get canned after the original director says how much its going to suck (hint to all directors-make your opinions clear if you dont want some idiot screwing around with your film).
They're remaking every damned movie ever made, I don't even bother caring anymore. Can you imagine being a kid these days, and every movie you see is a crappy remake of stuff that was really good back when we grew up? It's like their whole pop media culture is just a second rate lie.
Dawn of the Dead ('04) is one of the better done remakes. Actually it's not so much of a remake but more of a 'redo'. It's different but entertaining, maybe that's why I like it.
Quotehint to all directors-make your opinions clear if you dont want some idiot screwing around with your film
I wouldn't mind if someone wnated to screw with one of my (hopefully upcoming) films. They want to put their own spin on it, fine, it's their world and if I get in some possessive fury I might be crushing an inspired (maybe not well-executed) vision.
The Evil Dead remake is not a rumor; it's 100% true. Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell are both producers in the film, and Campbell himself said they aren't going to let it be ruined. This is one the few remakes coming out I have a little faith in. I'm not usually against remakes personally. I just figure if it's a remake I wouldn't want to see, then I just avoid it.
What I had heard about this proposed F13th remake was that they were basically going to distill all of the major plot points of the first 4 films into one movie.
Plus, they were going to try to show just how in the heck Jason survived out in those woods and what happened between the years of the 1st film to the 2nd.
I think that it's going to be mainly a complete turd as I know a few people who went to see the Hitcher remake despite me telling them to not go see it (I'm a big fan of the original, which I know isn't a perfect film, but it's an entertaining one). They said that The Hitcher remake sucked so bad they walked out by the halfway point.
There have been some instances in which some remakes have turned out to be really good films. Examples include John Carpenter's The Thing and the 2004 Dawn of the Dead remake. But the reason why these films were so good is that they basically reimagined the entire films and really were totally different films from the originals.
I think that someone remaking a movie should be like someone covering a song, it should only be done if someone puts their own stamp on the song and don't just do a pointless retread of a song that was perfect to begin with.
I have seen some of the remakes. One of them was The Amnytiville Horror. The new one sucked a$$. The orginal was far scarier and more fun to watch, just because you used your imagination instead of Hollywood special effects. The other one was When A Stranger Calls, the orginal was a million times better, the remake just played off of the gore. The last one I saw and reget seeing was The Hills Have Eyes. The orginal one was good, the remake was nasty. I did not like the rape scene, it disturbed me in the new one.
I think that the producers are trying to push beyond the edge to make people like the movies and I believe that this hurts the movie.
Oh well, I am not incharge of the movies, but I will be incharge of my money.
John
I think what makes the remakes so bad (at least the ones I've seen) is that the originals had two very important things: character and story. Likable, or at least sympathetic characters, and the plot kept you interested. The remakes just throw those two elements out completely, substituting cliche characters who are either extremely unlikable or else just completely unsympathetic, and all the more interesting elements of the plot are taken out. Instead they have lots of CGI and porobably some really stupid jump scares.
QuoteI think that it's going to be mainly a complete turd as I know a few people who went to see the Hitcher remake despite me telling them to not go see it (I'm a big fan of the original, which I know isn't a perfect film, but it's an entertaining one). They said that The Hitcher remake sucked so bad they walked out by the halfway point.
http://www.badmovies.org/forum/index.php/topic,112652.0.html
As far the remakes go, I did enjoy Dawn of the Dead (thought original was better). I also liked The Hills Have Eyes, which I thought was better than the original film. That's probably at least partly because I don't have a very high opinion of the original... But the remake is worth watching, and pretty entertaining in its way. Well-acted and put together. Not a lot of substance, but the original doesn't either.
I am going to remake The Trial Of Billy Jack but I will keep it down to under 90 minutes and I will employ an editor. I will not have Billy fight the Big Guy in a cave, no, Billy can rather knock the hell out of his own shadow. :teddyr:
I dislike the re-make trend.
Hills Have Eyes was a disappointment. The original was great story about survival. People trapped in the middle of nowhere. Maniacs lurking all around. They have no idea what the hell they're going to do... they just know they want to make it home again (and get thier baby back). There were rich characters. Even the cannibals had characters. This is what was lost in the remake. Where is a scene where the mutants wonder "So what are we going to do with this baby?" What compels the mutant girl to do anything in this movie? Why didn't the dog kick half as much ass?
I can't explain why I didn't like Dawn of the Dead. I just didn't. It's not because of my devotion to the original. I look at it as a completely separate zombie movie. It just didn't appeal to me.
When a Stranger Calls- Not a remake. Juts re-use of a title. No harm done.
Let's re-make crap that nobody has ever heard of. My Slime People remake will kick ass if I ever get off my ass and write it.
I thougt that the Hills Have Eyes remake was total crap. I'm a fan of the original, even though I readily admit that it has some very apparent flaws.
The worst thing about the remake is that it was made by the same French filmmakers who did High Tension which I loved (and yes, I thought the ending twist was fine).
The Hills Have Eyes remake was brilliant ,IMO...
i dont know if i'd go as far to say brilliant, but i enjoyed it.
Quote from: Joe on February 19, 2007, 07:10:18 AM
i dont know if i'd go as far to say brilliant, but i enjoyed it.
Well, then you should enjoy the scheduled sequel to the remake.
I am a teenager and I also hate all re-makes of old classics. Luckily, I grew up with a father who showed me Manhunter,IT, and Dawn of the Dead all when I was around 8 years old. When I was younger, I wouldnt go to the movies, I would go out and buy a old horror movie. Sadly enough, many of my friends have never seen any good movies and are controlled by these crappy-remakes being churned out by Hollywood.If you want a quote here it is: Once one of my friends was browsing my IPOD and I told him to watch Plan 9 From Outer Space. He then said "No, I dont want to see the horrors of Black and White". That just made me sick. I entirely agree with all of you guys by saying that most naive youth try and "modernize" old pictures which essentially ruins the movie.
:hatred: THE SAME GUY WHO DIRECTED THE HITCHER RE-MAKE!!?? (shoots self in the head)
I was never a big fan of the Friday the 13th movies, but what I want to know is how did Jason get to be over 6 feet tall? Wasn't he originally a short scrawny teenager?
Quote from: Him on April 10, 2007, 09:28:43 AM
I was never a big fan of the Friday the 13th movies, but what I want to know is how did Jason get to be over 6 feet tall? Wasn't he originally a short scrawny teenager?
There is an old saying: "That which does not kill us makes us Kane Hodder."
QuoteQuotei dont know if i'd go as far to say brilliant, but i enjoyed it.
Well, then you should enjoy the scheduled sequel to the remake.
i REALLY disliked the second film its was lack of story, acting, and wasnt going anywhere in terms of plot except "uh we gotta get outta here! look theres a mutant!"
To all directors who insist on padding there resumes by directing remakes:
Okay, okay, so you liked a certain movie when you were a kid... maybe it even encouraged you to become a filmmaker. I'm happy for you. You're making your dream a reality. Good for you.
*leans in* But seriously, haven't you seen any existing remakes of older films? Perhaps you should check out how many times the basic premise of every single H.G. Welles story has been done and redone... and redone, all basically involve the same things. If it isn't invading aliens attacking our contemporary time period, it's invisible people causing havoc. Oh, yeah, and a few films about giant animals who develop cravings for human flesh...
Even if you're not much for old literature, try a more contemporary example... perhaps you've heard of the Planet of the Apes series of films? I often wonder what Roddy McDowell would have to say about the numerous sequels and watered-down tv serials and remakes (thanks, Tim Burton... I find it hard to believe you once made Beetlejuice). Spinoffs, indeed. Money, nothing more. Jaws 2 - 4; money, nothing more. There are even Jaws video games. I never thought monsters could be turned into whores, but it happens.
The original Planet of the Apes was meant to stand alone, not be cloned half a dozen times. Is it accurate? It's fiction, you dolt. Fiction niether has to be technically accurate nor depressingly realistic. Who complains that Flash Gordon wasn't realistic? Who b***hes and moans that King Kong couldn't possibly exist, due to the stresses such a large frame would have placed upon it by our world's gravity? And when said ape tackled with a radioactive lizard called Godzilla (Gojira, for you purists), who complained that realistically both should die of radiation posioning? Realism is an excuse to do that which you already intended to do in film.
It is then ironic to me that when two people - not from Japan, I might add - considered making a remake of Gojira, they threw out all influences the giant rubber suited version had created for almost forty years- it would have been encouraging, except for one small problem: they failed to ignore the influences of the film Jurassic Park- which was made by someone who, in turn, was influenced by older science fiction films... and that person too, has gone on to remake one such film... after remaking his own. Having stooped to stealing from H.G. Welles, Spielberg must forever be looked at in a questioning glance as to his creativity... and to his integrity.
If you're going to "homage" the works of someone who came before you, at the very least, try to make your version at least half original. Forbidden Planet claimed to ape Shakespeare... and what of "Them!"? It was born in an age of giant bug movies, and yet it stands head and shoulders above many other giant monster films (sorry, Mothra- you get second place... now leave Godzilla alone!!).
*leans back* Sorry, I may have gotten a little too worked up about this... So here's your homework:
A: Get an idea,
B: then check online to see if it's been done,
C: how,
D: and what is the same, and what's not.
Then try to only cobble together ideas that are different, not "sellable"... repetitive... insipid... or just damn silly. We'll thank you for it, I promise.
Quote from: Trevor on February 16, 2007, 03:24:49 AM
I am going to remake The Trial Of Billy Jack but I will keep it down to under 90 minutes and I will employ an editor. I will not have Billy fight the Big Guy in a cave, no, Billy can rather knock the hell out of his own shadow. :teddyr:
All I ask is you keep the guitar-strumming hook boy. That kid getting mowed down by the National Guard illustrates all that was great about 70's film making.
Just because it's old doesn't make it classic (if that were the case, I'd be a classic, and I may be the oldest poster here, Trevor. "Nearly 40?" Baby!)
FRIDAY THE 13TH is fun, but no classic. And WHEN A STRANGER CALLS was just plain dopey (even if it scared you). A long time horror flick fan, I saw those in the theatre when they were new, and was not impressed.
Though remakes have always been a part of cinema, I think these cash-cow films are remade because too many young filmmakers have no idea how to make an original film, but more importantly their producers are only interested in a quick profit (not news).