Someone please, please tell me this is NOT actually happening...
http://imdb.com/title/tt0438488/ (http://imdb.com/title/tt0438488/)
The sub-title sounds like some cheesyass DTV movie.
I've got a real bad feeling about this...
I'm not really sure what to think of that, I live in a world where Terminator 3 didn't really happen. The robots were cool, sure, but it was a big screw-you to everything that happened in Terminator 2. "What, all the files and information about SkyNet and the chip were destroyed? No they weren't!*fart noise*" One among them has a secret, ooo, creepy. Could it be a disguised Terminator? No, surely not! I don't see how Arnold would fit into another one of these and if SkyNet is already active in the current time frame why would it bother to send a Terminator back? It no longer had to hide its robotic servants since all the HKs and T-1s are roaming around and since SkyNet was just "born", there's no cyborg technology so what will this secret be?
It's dumb-dumb time!: Terminator 2 has at least one clip that I remember that depicts the building housing SkyNet, yet according to Terminator 3 SkyNet is "software in cyberspace". What will become of that and how can John 's forces win against the world wide web? Don't call the movie Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins. That's too big and the future is technically always beginning. Call it Conner vs The Machines. I think that would sell more tickets. Or maybe it's Robert Patrick's turn to say "Come with me if you want to live." Yeah, I'd love to hear them explain it.
Early script reviews on this one say one thing - It Could Be Good.
Christian Bale has officially signed on as John Connor, so I'm not sure why IMDB still lists that as rumored. Supposedly, John Conner will not be the focus of this film but a member of his army will be. Sounds good to me. Apparently the script calls for all sorts of action and effects so this film will have a huge budget and contain much more than what we've seen in previous Terminator films. I love the idea of it taking place during the war, and I like the idea of following a character who is in Connor's army. I have high hopes for this one.
All I really care about is the robots, I just don't want them to mess it up :tongueout: I respect Christian Bale as an actor and a person, thought, so we'll see how the movie does by following a non-Conner character.
The problem with early movie information- opinion jumps all over the place :lookingup:
If a person was to think about it, when the chip, the arm and Arnie were destroyed, that should have changed the future so there would be no Skynet. Oh well, T3 was a piece of work, I liked the cyborgs but that was about it.
Has anyone scene the advertisements for the Sara Conner Chronicles???
I don't know about this new movie; my cynical nature says it will suck, but not as badly as the new TV series (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0851851/) will. Also, I seem to recall hearing (probably here) that this is only the first of three post-Judgement Day Terminator films planned, none of which are written/produced/directed by James Cameron (http://imdb.com/name/nm0000116/).
Quote from: SynapticBoomstick on January 01, 2008, 09:56:21 PM
I'm not really sure what to think of that, I live in a world where Terminator 3 didn't really happen. The robots were cool, sure, but it was a big screw-you to everything that happened in Terminator 2. "What, all the files and information about SkyNet and the chip were destroyed? No they weren't!*fart noise*" <major snippage> It's dumb-dumb time!: Terminator 2 has at least one clip that I remember that depicts the building housing SkyNet, yet according to Terminator 3 SkyNet is "software in cyberspace".
From what I can understand of the series, every time someone is sent to the past, the future is changed. So, prior to the events of
T2 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103064/), the neural net chips being designed by Miles Dyson (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0000948/bio) were used in the terminators and SkyNet. After those events, as per the exposition in
T3 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0181852/), since Judgement Day was inevitable SkyNet came into being as a distributed process similar to BOINC (http://boinc.berkeley.edu/index.php). How this affected the internals of the terminators was not AFAICR explained.
It must also be remembered that if the original terminator had not come back in time and been mostly destroyed, Dyson never would have gotten his hands on the arm & chip and would never have developed them. Time travel can make for some serious headaches. :tongueout:
It's designed to kick-off a whole new trilogy of Terminator movies all set after the nuclear war.
Quote from: GoHawks on January 02, 2008, 02:08:54 AMAfter those events, as per the exposition in T3 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0181852/), since Judgement Day was inevitable SkyNet came into being as a distributed process similar to BOINC (http://boinc.berkeley.edu/index.php). How this affected the internals of the terminators was not AFAICR explained.
That's all well and good but why still call the computer SkyNet? If it's built by people other than Cyberdyne they should logically call it something other than what, to them, would be the brainchild of a scientist who went nuts, destroyed his work, and then got killed by the cops. Only someone intent on political suicide would insist on calling their supercomputer, developed independently of both Cyberdye and Miles Dyson, SkyNet.
And even if Cyberdyne
did build the computer we see in Terminator 3 for the army, why would they themselves call it SkyNet and thus remind themselves of such a dark chapter in their company's history?
Quote from: GoHawks on January 02, 2008, 02:08:54 AMIt must also be remembered that if the original terminator had not come back in time and been mostly destroyed, Dyson never would have gotten his hands on the arm & chip and would never have developed them. Time travel can make for some serious headaches. :tongueout:
Well, in the original timeline Dyson and Cyberdyne designed SkyNet without the advent of the salvaged chip and arm from the first Terminator. All said items did was make it so that the scientists would begin work on what would ultimately become SkyNet sooner than they would have otherwise.
Recent rumors about "The Rock" taking over the Terminator role are enough to keep me away from this one . . .
I think Hollywood has gotten to the point where anytime we hear about them making a sequel to a beloved franchise, it's "Oh dear God no!!!".
And rightfully so.
Quote from: The Burgomaster on January 02, 2008, 08:38:59 AM
Recent rumors about "The Rock" taking over the Terminator role are enough to keep me away from this one . . .
I heard the rumors back when they made T3, but Arnold ended up in that. As for this one, honestly, I'd prefer the Rock as opposed to say, Vin Diesel. Rock's a decent actor, just picks the worst movies to be in a lot of times.
So in T4: Conquest of the Planet of the Terminators will we have Ricardo Montelban playing a circus owner who is hiding a Terminator who looks surprisingly like Arnold Schwartzenaggar?
The Terminator movies are the new Planet of the Apes. It doesn't matter how many temporal paradoxes there are. Each movie feasibly can exist in its own reality. It just depends how you fudge the timelines.
Quote from: Justy on January 02, 2008, 10:07:01 AM
So in T4: Conquest of the Planet of the Terminators will we have Ricardo Montelban playing a circus owner who is hiding a Terminator who looks surprisingly like Arnold Schwartzenaggar?
No, I think that the Terminator is going to bring about a general robot uprising that will challenge mankind's dominance and slavery of the artificial intelligences. Of course, if they set the movie in present day, that means Arnold at the head of an army of Roombas.
Quote from: Andrew on January 02, 2008, 11:46:57 AM
Quote from: Justy on January 02, 2008, 10:07:01 AM
So in T4: Conquest of the Planet of the Terminators will we have Ricardo Montelban playing a circus owner who is hiding a Terminator who looks surprisingly like Arnold Schwartzenaggar?
No, I think that the Terminator is going to bring about a general robot uprising that will challenge mankind's dominance and slavery of the artificial intelligences. Of course, if they set the movie in present day, that means Arnold at the head of an army of Roombas.
Well, at least it would be a very
neat revolution. :tongueout:
Just out of nutty curiosity has anyone read the three T2 books written (I believe) by Steve Perry? They were written sometime before T3 was even thought of, so it follows it's own storyline, basically starting with Sarah and John hiding out in South America (recall in part two that Sarah meet a lot of Mexican/South American mercenaries and such when she was trying to learn all should could about military weapons and things.)
Anyway, the book series had some good ideas, for one, we actually get MEET the guy who the Terminator "Human" design is based on, he's an Austrian scientist who just also happens to be former military guy and likes to pump iron a lot. I think it'd be cool if they could do this with the next Terminator movie, but, giving the age (and probably, lack of interest) of Arnold I doubt it'd be possible.
I think there's several other Terminator books out there (not counting the various comic books) but I haven't had a chance to read any.
I'm not worried about a robot revolution. I've got Robot Insurance.
Quote from: raj on January 03, 2008, 10:29:10 AM
I'm not worried about a robot revolution. I've got Robot Insurance.
I've got volcano insurance. :bouncegiggle:
I hear a lot of people say they want the events in 3 not to have happened (kind of like I do with Alien 3), but, IMHO, the EVENTS of 3 were just right. It's the feel of the movie that was wrong, the events of the movie correct the few serious flaws of the second movie. Preventing Judgement Day is LAME, it's JUDGEMENT DAY. It's like the movies where they prevent Christ from comming back by stabbing baby Damien or something. Nice work, now history continues without purpose forever. The sermon on destiny was WAY out of place in 2. The whole story is based on the notion of destiny, and the moral of 2 is supposed to be that there's NO destiny? They just did that to have an ending, it shouldn't become cannonical orthodoxy of the Terminator world.
I drive myself and others (coworkers, family, friends, whoever will listen) crazy with thoughts on time travel in movies and this film series always comes up. Reese was sent back in the 80s by John Connor. So after T2, that pretty much meant John Connor should have ceased to be IMO, is that correct? That should be seeing the future changed. Then T3 really lost me on the whole NEW Judgement Day thing.
Perhaps John Connor used Doc Brown's Delorian to patch things up when we weren't looking.
How difficult would it be for Hollyweird to come up with an original script? This rehashing of the same ol movies with sequel after sequel is just boring.
I love Christian Bale, he was awesome in Reign of Fire.
But the better bet would be his co-star from that movie and the all-round awesome yummy hunk Gerard Butler *swoon*.
I'm assuming Gerard can do an American accent, so there shouldn't be any problems that way. Still, it will be interesting to see just how bad Hollywood can balls this one up.
Quote from: Killer Bees on January 03, 2008, 09:33:19 PM
I love Christian Bale, he was awesome in Reign of Fire.
But the better bet would be his co-star from that movie and the all-round awesome yummy hunk Gerard Butler *swoon*.
I'm assuming Gerard can do an American accent, so there shouldn't be any problems that way. Still, it will be interesting to see just how bad Hollywood can balls this one up.
I think Bulter will be busy playing Snake Plissken in the
Escape From New York remake.
Quote from: raj on January 03, 2008, 10:29:10 AM
I'm not worried about a robot revolution. I've got Robot Insurance.
Well,
I'm worried about the Robot Holocaust (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093872/). :wink:
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Quote from: BTM on January 03, 2008, 01:19:28 AMAnyway, the book series had some good ideas, for one, we actually get MEET the guy who the Terminator "Human" design is based on, he's an Austrian scientist who just also happens to be former military guy and likes to pump iron a lot.
We met him in a deleted scene in T3. He was Arnold with a Southern accent as "Sergeant Candy."