I was watching the show 8 Simple Rules For Dating My Teenage Daughter and I have to admit it was actually a decently written show that provided a few laughs here and there. However, it saddened me to think that John Ritter is no longer with us anymore. The guy seemed to be getting back in the limelight with this show and he made it entertaining.
I believe a magazine (I think it was People) put out a magazine featuring entertainers taken from us way too early. Are there particular entertainers you miss and think had a lot more to give us for entertainmet?
Personal heroes that I wish were still around would include Mitch Hedburg and former lead guitar, singer, and writer for Sublime, Brad Nowell. Both had such promising futures ahead of them and both of them cut it way too short with heroin. :bluesad:
ELVIS PRESLEY
RICK NELSON
HANK WILLIAMS
JOHN BELUSHI
PAUL LYNDE
TOTIE FIELDS (anyone remember TOTIE?)
HEATH LEDGER
RIVER PHOENIX
MICHAEL HUTCHENCE
There are too many to name...
Off the top of my head:
Layne Staley- great vocalist. Wish he'd have gotten his problem under control.
Buddy Holly
Chris Farley
Jim Henson
Mitch Hedberg
Owen Hart
Odd mish mash of people, I know.
Mitch Hedberg is dead??? That guy was too funny, I can't believe this. Also Chris Farley, John Belushi, Heath Ledger, and of course, Elvis. However I think the drugs might have seriously effected him and his onstage performance if he didn't get help.
John Candy's death was tragic. "I'm a Mog. Half man, half dog - I'm my own best friend"
Grace Kelly. So beautiful, so ethereal and so tragically taken from us. I know she hadn't made any movies for a long time, but at the time she died her kids were all grown up and she wasn't having any more. So I assumed she'd return to film at some stage.
Heath Ledger. A promising Aussie talent taken much too early. Don't do drugs kiddies!
Not an Elvis fan or a Michael Hutchence fan but that doesn't mean their deaths weren't awful. I just wasn't as rocked by the news as the other examples. That's all I can think of right now.
Every year, I keep my "Dead List". Whenever I hear in the press about a famous person dying, I write it down in my diary. It's amazing to look back in past diaries and see who died throught out the year.
Quote from: Patient7 on February 14, 2008, 09:58:20 PM
Mitch Hedburg is dead??? That guy was too funny, I can't believe this.
Since 2006. The anniversary is just around the corner, sometime in early March. I remember it clearly because it was right around the time Billy, the original Bass Wolf of Guitar Wolf died, only a few scant weeks after I'd seen them for the first and last time at CBGB...
AnubisVonMojo reminded me of a great artist I saw about 3 weeks before he died in a helicopter crash, STEVIE RAY VAUGHAN. Remembering that major loss makes me think of the triple titans: JIMI HENDRYX, JANIS JOPLIN and JIM MORRISON.
There is a book Those Who Died Young which covers some of them, and several others.
Joey,Dee Dee, and Johnny. :bluesad: :bluesad: :bluesad:
LON CHANEY Sr. Will Never Die!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Tjoae0aD4XM
Quote from: Allhallowsday on February 14, 2008, 11:11:58 PM
the triple titans: JIMI HENDRYX, JANIS JOPLIN and JIM MORRISON.
All three names beginning with 'J' and all died withing a year of each other. 1970-71 was not a good year for rock. :bluesad:
I went to a Stevie Ray Vaughn concert just a few days before he died. That was probably the best concert I ever saw. The emotion, talent, connection with the audience; just a great time.
Randy Rhoads - guitarist for Ozzy Osbourne back in the early '80s. He was combining classical music with heavy metal, but was killed in a plane crash. It would be amazing to see what he would be doing today if he was still alive.
Jimi Hendrix - always loved his music. So emotional and such a crazy guitar player.
Quote from: Patient7 on February 14, 2008, 09:58:20 PM
Mitch Hedberg is dead??? That guy was too funny, I can't believe this. Also Chris Farley, John Belushi, Heath Ledger, and of course, Elvis. However I think the drugs might have seriously effected him and his onstage performance if he didn't get help.
Yeah, Mitch died. Shame too.
Great comic.
Always loved JOHN CANDY, especially on his SCTV days playing "Johnny LaRue" paired next to "Sammy Maudlin." Funny stuff.
Glad to see BELA mention RAMONES and HappyGilmore mention BUDDY HOLLY...
How about:
PATSY CLINE
FRANK ZAPPA
JAMES DEAN
NATALIE WOOD
GILDA RADNER....
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Co4IBYB5jY0
BRIAN JONES...of the Rolling Stones-
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yrEXLmUAEOg
Although I'm not a big fan of light music, Karen Carpenter had a beautiful voice and her passing was a sad, tragic one.
ian curtis
Not to downplay the tragedy in any of these examples, in these kinds of situations, I tend to ponder whether an untimely death will enhance the memory of a celebrity.
They basically get frozen at their peak, when they're young, fresh, innovative. They don't have a chance to wear out their welcome. Jimi Hendrix will always be that young guitar genius. James Dean will always be a young rebel and Marylin Monroe a blonde bombshell. John Belushi will always be Bluto or Jake Blues. John Candy never had a chance to make as many lacklustre movies as some of his SCTV co-stars.
It's kind of like the Denis Leary routine where he suggests that Elvis should have been assassinated in 1968 so we could all remember him as he was then.
The other side of the coin is that some stars are great their whole lives (Bob Hope, George Burns, etc.) And some are able to reinvent themselves enough that we would have been denied a great deal if they'd gone after their initial success. But you have to wonder how many performers would still enjoy their legendary status if they were still around today.
DISCLAIMER: This is in no way meant to suggest that an untimely death is a good thing for anyone. Please, do not get the wrong idea.
AndyC- On a similar note...I can't really picture Sid Vicious going anywhere beyond the SEX PISTOLS. It was almost if he was born...and died...to br a punk rock martyr (?), if that is the correct term for his tragic and self -destructive life and death.
Quote from: RCMerchant on February 15, 2008, 03:49:09 PM
AndyC- On a similar note...I can't really picture Sid Vicious going anywhere beyond the SEX PISTOLS. It was almost if he was born...and died...to br a punk rock martyr (?), if that is the correct term for his tragic and self -destructive life and death.
Yeh, but was he any
good? Apparently not. It was
STEVE JONES playing bass on
Never Mind The Bollocks. :bluesad:
How about:
JOHN LENNON
OTIS REDDING
FRANKIE LYMON
JOHN BONHAM
KEITH MOON
JOHN DENVER
DINAH WASHINGTON
BIX BEIDERBECKE
ROBERT JOHNSON
NANCY LAMOTT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFx9ZBlBUuc
Charlie Parker, August 29, 1920 – March 12, 1955. Could still be with us today. I can't imagine what he might have done to music with an extra 30-40 years.
Quote from: Allhallowsday on February 15, 2008, 04:05:50 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on February 15, 2008, 03:49:09 PM
AndyC- On a similar note...I can't really picture Sid Vicious going anywhere beyond the SEX PISTOLS. It was almost if he was born...and died...to br a punk rock martyr (?), if that is the correct term for his tragic and self -destructive life and death.
Yeh, but was he any good? Apparently not. It was STEVE JONES playing bass on Never Mind The Bollocks. :bluesad:
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My point exactly. Beyond his image in the Pistols....he hadn't much to fall back on. It's sad. Heroin turned him into a ghost ...even while still alive. :bluesad: Addiction and death turned him from a talentless flash in the pan into a punk icon.
Quote from: RCMerchant on February 15, 2008, 06:43:24 PM
My point exactly. Beyond his image in the Pistols....he hadn't much to fall back on. It's sad. Heroin turned him into a ghost ...even while still alive. :bluesad: Addiction and death turned him from a talentless flash in the pan into a punk icon.
Yes, I saw your point, which I was fortifying with my comments. It is sad. He's an icon, but was a no-talent. Kind of fortifies
AndyC's point, too.
Quote from: AndyC on February 15, 2008, 02:09:41 PM
Not to downplay the tragedy in any of these examples, in these kinds of situations, I tend to ponder whether an untimely death will enhance the memory of a celebrity.
They basically get frozen at their peak, when they're young, fresh, innovative. They don't have a chance to wear out their welcome. Jimi Hendrix will always be that young guitar genius. James Dean will always be a young rebel and Marylin Monroe a blonde bombshell. John Belushi will always be Bluto or Jake Blues. John Candy never had a chance to make as many lacklustre movies as some of his SCTV co-stars.
It's kind of like the Denis Leary routine where he suggests that Elvis should have been assassinated in 1968 so we could all remember him as he was then.
The other side of the coin is that some stars are great their whole lives (Bob Hope, George Burns, etc.) And some are able to reinvent themselves enough that we would have been denied a great deal if they'd gone after their initial success. But you have to wonder how many performers would still enjoy their legendary status if they were still around today.
DISCLAIMER: This is in no way meant to suggest that an untimely death is a good thing for anyone. Please, do not get the wrong idea.
I agree, because of these untimeley deaths they will never have a major screw up ruining their name, however, I would rather they still be alive considering what else they might have been able to do with their lives.
Marvin Gaye- at age 44. Could've done a few more good records. Sad.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GVTN5o9Kgu8
Quote from: Allhallowsday on February 15, 2008, 04:05:50 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on February 15, 2008, 03:49:09 PM
AndyC- On a similar note...I can't really picture Sid Vicious going anywhere beyond the SEX PISTOLS. It was almost if he was born...and died...to br a punk rock martyr (?), if that is the correct term for his tragic and self -destructive life and death.
Yeh, but was he any good? Apparently not. It was STEVE JONES playing bass on Never Mind The Bollocks. :bluesad:
How about:
JOHN LENNON
OTIS REDDING
FRANKIE LYMON
JOHN BONHAM
KEITH MOON
JOHN DENVER
DINAH WASHINGTON
BIX BEIDERBECKE
ROBERT JOHNSON
NANCY LAMOTT
Apparently, Sid even asked Lemmy of Motorhead to teach him to play bass. Sid was so bad, that at certain points of a show, the band would unplug Sid. Lemmy said Sid still couldn't play at the time he died.
Have to second and third Stevie Ray Vaughan.
The thing is -- he was recovering from alcoholism, and was on his way back. He was still capable of the most incredible balls-to-the-wall playing, and I would have to guess he would have gotten better still. A sad loss indeed. :bluesad:
I wish I had a chance to hear him in person. I envy those of you who did.
James Dean
Humphrey Bogart
Clark Gable
Elvis Presley
Heath Ledger
John Lennon
Ian Curtis
Michael Hutchence
Richard Pryor. Too funny.
Apparently, Sid even asked Lemmy of Motorhead to teach him to play bass. Sid was so bad, that at certain points of a show, the band would unplug Sid. Lemmy said Sid still couldn't play at the time he died.
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Reminds me of this guy who busks in our city mall. He's been playing sax since I was a teenager and after all these years (20 plus) he still sounds like crap. I don't understand how you can do something so regularly and just.not.get.better :question:
Surely a few proper lessons wouldn't go astray.
Whilst I'm on this odd tangent, the same comment applies to Madonna's......ahem.....singing voice. With all her cash, surely she could've hired a classical teacher to show her something?
Quote from: HappyGilmore on February 15, 2008, 09:47:02 PM
Marvin Gaye- at age 44. Could've done a few more good records. Sad.
Great inclusion and such a ridiculous way to die, at the gunpoint of his own father. A g*ddamned shame !!!
Quote from: HappyGilmore on February 15, 2008, 09:47:02 PM
Apparently, Sid even asked Lemmy of Motorhead to teach him to play bass. Sid was so bad, that at certain points of a show, the band would unplug Sid. Lemmy said Sid still couldn't play at the time he died.
Your Wikipedia is showing, dove... :tongueout:
Quote from: Allhallowsday on February 18, 2008, 12:33:03 AM
Quote from: HappyGilmore on February 15, 2008, 09:47:02 PM
Marvin Gaye- at age 44. Could've done a few more good records. Sad.
Great inclusion and such a ridiculous way to die, at the gunpoint of his own father. A g*ddamned shame !!!
Quote from: HappyGilmore on February 15, 2008, 09:47:02 PM
Apparently, Sid even asked Lemmy of Motorhead to teach him to play bass. Sid was so bad, that at certain points of a show, the band would unplug Sid. Lemmy said Sid still couldn't play at the time he died.
Your Wikipedia is showing, dove... :tongueout:
The part about them unplugging him, I don't believe that. I don't think they would. I generally don't believe Wiki unless I've heard it stated somewhere else as well.
I should have prefaced it with the phrase "According to Wiki:"
He was only like, what, 21 when he died?
Like the Pistols, but they were kinda bad.
Quote from: HappyGilmore on February 18, 2008, 09:49:27 AM
... I generally don't believe Wiki unless I've heard it stated somewhere else as well. I should have prefaced it with the phrase "According to Wiki:"
It's a very useful site for checking facts. Much that I have found is accurate (there's a hell of alot on the English kings :teddyr:) but frankly I've found their music entries to be surprisingly inaccurate... :wink: :thumbup:
Oh yeh, there's lots more taken too early, here's three very sad ones:
ANISSA JONES "Buffy" on late '60s TV classic
"Family Affair" HEATHER O'ROURKE "Carol Anne" from
POLTERGEIST BOBBY DRISCOLL the voice of Disney's
PETER PAN who played "Jim Hawkins" in the classic
TREASURE ISLAND
Quote from: Allhallowsday on February 20, 2008, 03:32:09 PM
Quote from: HappyGilmore on February 18, 2008, 09:49:27 AM
... I generally don't believe Wiki unless I've heard it stated somewhere else as well. I should have prefaced it with the phrase "According to Wiki:"
It's a very useful site for checking facts. Much that I have found is accurate (there's a hell of alot on the English kings :teddyr:) but frankly I've found their music entries to be surprisingly inaccurate... :wink: :thumbup:
Oh yeh, there's lots more taken too early, he's three very sad ones:
ANISSA JONES "Buffy" on late '60s TV classic "Family Affair"
HEATHER O'ROURKE "Carol Anne" from POLTERGEIST
BOBBY DRISCOLL the voice of Disney's PETER PAN who played "Jim Hawkins" in the classic TREASURE ISLAND
Shame about Heather. Also felt bad for Dominique Dunne, who played Heather's older sister in the first Poltergeist. She was strangled by her ex boyfriend.
Kurt Cobain, Shannon Hoon, Andrew Wood, Bon Scott, Phil Hartmann, Bill Hicks, Robert Johnson.
MICHAEL JACKSON
WHITNEY HOUSTON...
Quote from: AnubisVonMojo on February 14, 2008, 08:47:50 PM
...former lead guitar, singer, and writer for Sublime, Brad Nowell....
Same here with Brad, he and Sublime made songs that I can only imagine are just feel good songs, meaning that I imagine that the person who is listening to it is at a hookah bar and (for lack of a better word) doped out.
Someone definitely gone too soon, who showed lots of promise....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Schaeffer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MngnoUEIr1c
Ad Jim "Ernest P. Worrell" Varney to the list.
Quote from: Eyesore on February 21, 2008, 12:03:31 AM
Phil Hartmann
This. Such a sad, pointless way to go. Marvin Gaye too.
Patrice O'Neal
Bernie Mac
Adam "MCA" Yauch
Andy Whitfield
David Foster Wallace
Judith Barsi
He's already been mentioned, but River Phoenix. I watched STAND BY ME a couple days ago and it's painful seeing how much potential he had.
SAM COOKE (there's a program on PBS tonight...10 or 10:30) I'll probably watch it.
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:bluesad:
AMY WINEHOUSE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJAfLE39ZZ8
Way too many wrestlers...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXM3mvHNQxk
Nick Drake & Elliott Smith
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ShXHW_FrlM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37k_Ri1XxEc
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That is so true. Someone described Mr Henson as "a very good, talented teacher" and that he was.
I will never forget him and the characters he created: I just have to look at my Kermit and my huge Cookie Monster and there he is. :smile:
Here's another couple of videos dedicated to wrestlers who died too soon...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1MEDgFBRGk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZMybi4K1H8
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That is so true. Someone described Mr Henson as "a very good, talented teacher" and that he was.
I will never forget him and the characters he created: I just have to look at my Kermit and my huge Cookie Monster and there he is. :smile:
Jim Henson died the same day as this gentleman....
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The young South African singer Gwynneth Ashley Robin (1960 - 1976).
www.rock.co.za/files/gwynneth.html (http://www.rock.co.za/files/gwynneth.html)
Sad loss: she was very talented indeed. :bluesad:
Seconding Nick Drake and adding Jeff Buckley to the list. Only 30 when he died he had already put out a classic album (Grace) and was working on a second that was even better. There's a great double cd set "Sketches of my Sweetheart the Drunk" that is made up of the work he had already done on his sophomore album previous to his death and it is incredible.
Chuck Shuldiner- Singer and guitarist of Death certainly made his mark on the work of death metal, but dying at only 34 we will never know just how far he could have taken the genre. His final album with Death "The Sound Of Perseverance" showed a new level of sophistication and class rarely heard among his peers. I could only imagine how incredible the follow ups would have been had Chuck not been taken away at such an age.
Brad Renfro at the age of 25, only a year older than me and he had already accomplished so much in his acting career. His lead performances in such great films as "Bully" and "Telling Lies in America" highlighted an extreme level of talent. Sadly drugs took this young man too soon. A particularily amazing quote from him sums up my feelings on all three men "I choose films for their artistic value. I don't need a mansion or a Jaguar. When I leave this Earth, I won't take any money with me. All I will leave behind will be my art." Whether it be music, film or any possible endeavor we may feel sad that such talent is gone but it is what you leave behind that truly matters, a truth if I ever heard one.
Bob Crane
Steve McQueen
Natalie Wood
Carole Lombard
Jean Harlow
Carl "Alfalfa" Switzer
Rondo Hatton
Sharon Tate
Patsy Cline
Dennis Wilson
HANK WILLIAMS SR!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvW6_-TP5cs
A WAY funny guy, FREDDIE PRINZE....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNFJ6Jgi6qM
and yet another Freddie....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozd9nPo_VAk
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Bruce was only 32 when he passed away. He was THE master of modern martial arts and such a pleasure to watch.
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Bruce was only 32 when he passed away. He was THE master of modern martial arts and such a pleasure to watch.
Agreed: I would still like to know why our censor board banned
Enter The Dragon back in the day as there is nothing that I wouldn't show young peeps in that at all. :question:
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Bruce was only 32 when he passed away. He was THE master of modern martial arts and such a pleasure to watch.
Agreed: I would still like to know why our censor board banned Enter The Dragon back in the day as there is nothing that I wouldn't show young peeps in that at all. :question:
I can't imagine. I've probably watched that film 100 times and there's nothing amiss with it.
THREE GIFTED TROUBADORS....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO1rMeYnOmM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5dwksSbD34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35x_rwyBh-8
Quote from: RCMerchant on April 25, 2013, 10:52:36 AM
Bob Crane
Steve McQueen
Natalie Wood
Carole Lombard
Jean Harlow
Carl "Alfalfa" Switzer
Rondo Hatton
Sharon Tate
Patsy Cline
Dennis Wilson
HANK WILLIAMS SR!!!!
At least a couple of those were named... tough to remember such a long list after we started it 5 years ago...!