Alright. Recently I noticed I hadn't seen any Hellraiser film after #5, which IMHO was OK but not memorable.
So I checked #6, "Hellseeker" and to my surprise (see Good Movies board) it turned out to be a pretty good film. Yep, it's made on the cheap, Pinhead and the Cenobytes are just passing by and the whole you're dreaming / you're not it's been done to death before, but it's slick and the plot is quite suspenseful, in a "Twilight zone" fashion.
So I concluded the series could have been actually improving. Nonsense.
"Hellraiser VII - Deader" comes from the same director as "Hellseeker", but it's much, much worse. It starts promising enough, with some low grade journalist (Kari Wuhrer) watching a hair rising video from a Romanian death cult.
You see where this is going, right? Yep, this is one of those B-movies made on the cheap on Romania, all of which look pretty much the same and none or them is any good. The film looks so cheap you'd think pretty much everything has been shot on somebody's basement, and the whitish-lighted exteriors don't exactly match the required atmosphere.
And the plot? Well, Kari Wuhrer has an encounter with the emo kids that form the cult and from then on she is dreaming / she is not. There's the particular good scene, like when Wuhrer wakes up in the middle of the night with a knife going all the way through her back and tries all kinds of stuff to contain the blood, but that's it. The cult thing is not much interesting, and Pinhead only appears at the very end to wrap things up through expository dialogue and do his spiky chain trick. Again.
So, Hellraiser fans, if there are still any, avoid at all costs. B-movie lovers may proceeed, if only for the cheap scares (gotta love the corpse in the toilet) and Kari Wuhrer's boobs.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again (man, I love being a turtle? no!) ...this is the absolute worst TITLE of any Hellraiser film. Ever.
Deader???
As in "more dead than dead"???
Bah!
I did not bother to see it, but since you mentioned Kari Wuhrer's boobs... I might give it a look.
Also, the phrase "corpse in the toilet" instantly grabs my attention... and interest.
ANOTHER Hellraiser? Seriously? Good god.
The first two movies were the only watchable ones in the whole bunch for me. They really need to stop tinkling all over Clive Barker's legacy here. He's never been my favorite guy, but he deserves better treatment than this.
1, 2, and 4. :thumbup:
just sayin'.
You enjoyed #2 and #4? Number 4 is "Bloodlines", right? Both #2 and #4 are pretty lame, if you ask me.
Bloodlines is actually my favorite. Didn't care much for the first one, but they had a stretch of good ones after it. Part 2 is pretty awesome.
You think Deader was afwul? Wait 'till you see Hellworld :teddyr:
First one's good. Second one is great. Definitely one of those rare occasions where the sequel surpasses the original. I used to hate number three with a fiery passion, but I've since softened up a little. I don't think it's very good, and I absolutely loathe the stupid high-tech cenobites (one of them shoots CDs out of his face for crap's sake! THAT'S RETARDED!!!), but there's some decent moments (Douglas Bradley getting to show another side of acting abilities as the pre-Cenobite human version of Pinhead), but mostly the movie is just plain forgettable and, in many ways, detestable. Bloodlines actually improves a little bit from the low that was number three, but not by much. Again, not a very good film as a whole, but it has many good moments. For example, all of Pinhead's dialogue is absolute gold, moreso than usual, and the direction is mostly well-done, great visual flourishes pop up often, and the scene where the libertine summons the demon in the first act of the movie, though detrimental to the overal mythos, is very, very well executed. Oh, and the chick who plays Angelique is definitely worth jackin' the beanstalk to. Other than that, mostly p**s-poor. But watchable. After that... well, that's one the franchise just makes a suicidal nosedive into perpetual mediocrity (at best).
Quote from: WilliamWeird1313 on January 26, 2009, 08:39:18 AM
but since you mentioned Kari Wuhrer's boobs... I might give it a look.
You can see those just about anywhere, Has she been in any film that DIDN'T require her to let them loose?
BTW, there's a sight called 'Celebrity Movie Archive' that will let you browse nude clips alphabetically by actress. :thumbup:
First two are the best for me, excellent horror films. Stay away from the rest.
As soon as I saw that cenobite shoot Cd's in 3, I nearly collapsed! :buggedout:
Quote from: Circus_Circus on January 29, 2009, 04:27:04 PM
First two are the best for me, excellent horror films. Stay away from the rest.
As soon as I saw that cenobite shoot Cd's in 3, I nearly collapsed! :buggedout:
I saw one that was set in space!!!!
How did you think that made me feel.
Very sad, indeed.
I think it had the girl from Freddy's Revenge in it.
Quote from: ghouck on January 29, 2009, 04:15:03 PM
Quote from: WilliamWeird1313 on January 26, 2009, 08:39:18 AM
but since you mentioned Kari Wuhrer's boobs... I might give it a look.
You can see those just about anywhere, Has she been in any film that DIDN'T require her to let them loose?
BTW, there's a sight called 'Celebrity Movie Archive' that will let you browse nude clips alphabetically by actress. :thumbup:
Yeah, I've seen those knockers before. Doesn't mean I ain't up for seein' em again!
And thanks for the tip about Celebrity Movie Archive. But I'm already familiar with it. I regularly use the search tool in the free trial section to get myself some goodies (because, dagnabbit, I like seein' Charlize Theron in the buff but, consarnit, I refuse to watch Reindeer Games again, lol)
Yeah, I'm a perv.
Quote from: WilliamWeird1313 on January 30, 2009, 08:18:03 AM
Yeah, I'm a perv.
Funny, I'm a perv, and I've never seen you at the meetings. .
Quote from: ghouck on January 30, 2009, 04:26:18 PM
Quote from: WilliamWeird1313 on January 30, 2009, 08:18:03 AM
Yeah, I'm a perv.
Funny, I'm a perv, and I've never seen you at the meetings. .
Is there a secret handshake ?
:wink:
Quote from: WilliamWeird1313 on January 26, 2009, 08:39:18 AM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again (man, I love being a turtle? no!) ...this is the absolute worst TITLE of any Hellraiser film. Ever.
Deader???
As in "more dead than dead"???
Bah!
I did not bother to see it, but since you mentioned Kari Wuhrer's boobs... I might give it a look.
Also, the phrase "corpse in the toilet" instantly grabs my attention... and interest.
Ha, nice Turtles mention.
But yeah, I gotta agree. I mean, "Deader." That's the title they picked. Seriously?
Were they even trying after part 2? I wanted to see Pinhead 'succeed' as a villain, breakthrough, etc. But I gotta say, Pinhead is near the bottom of the list for me. In part due to sequels like this.