I was watching "Silent Scream" last night and was really unimpressed by how completely nondescript it was.
It wasn't at all scary but it was sort of watchable. It was pure assembly line product though. I mean, I had watched "Viva" the night before which was this multi year labor of love thing. the difference between the two couldn't be more pronounced though probably 1 out of 2 people at least would rather see Silent Scream.
I guess this is a broad sort of catagory, and one for which there are thousands of possible winners but...I guess lets see how it goes. if it goes
silent scream (1980) is my nomination
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKRp1FXQSgc
You are talking about this Silent Scream??? [I own a copy of the movie and it seem like a well made horror movie]
As unimpressed horror film go... I'll pick:
Kiss Daddy Goodbye (1981)
This movie has such a good idea. A father keeping his psychic twins hidden because he's fear of government testing.
The story fail because the police officer is an idiot, the children are no [Jodie Foster ~ The Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane (1976)] and the bikers motive is questionable (they killed a man in front of his house, the run and then decide to come back because they think the children are inside)
skull- I didn't think it was bad just contained as best as I could tell not one bit of originality.
When me and a friend of mine were watching Scream Bloody Murder, we started counting how many elements were taken from other movies. We lost track somewhere in the twenties. Cookie-cutter slasher movie there without an original bone in its body.
Quote from: lester1/2jr on March 01, 2010, 03:12:29 PM
skull- I didn't think it was bad just contained as best as I could tell not one bit of originality.
Oh... but many horror films tend to rip-off ideas from other films. Originality sometimes gets lost.
I still think Scream (Wes Craven's) fails as a tribute/parody and is itself incredibly schlocky and more or less resurrected the cliches it set out to make fun of.
Quote from: Chainsawmidget on March 01, 2010, 03:25:30 PM
When me and a friend of mine were watching Scream Bloody Murder, we started counting how many elements were taken from other movies. We lost track somewhere in the twenties. Cookie-cutter slasher movie there without an original bone in its body.
When you say SCREAM BLOODY MURDER, so you mean the more recent one, or are you talking about the old one from the 70s?
I'm thinking you must be referring to the newer one because the older one is mental in a wonderfully weird way.
Quote from: Javakoala on March 02, 2010, 05:15:54 PM
Quote from: Chainsawmidget on March 01, 2010, 03:25:30 PM
When me and a friend of mine were watching Scream Bloody Murder, we started counting how many elements were taken from other movies. We lost track somewhere in the twenties. Cookie-cutter slasher movie there without an original bone in its body.
When you say SCREAM BLOODY MURDER, so you mean the more recent one, or are you talking about the old one from the 70s?
I'm thinking you must be referring to the newer one because the older one is mental in a wonderfully weird way.
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z56/captnskullhead/scream20bloody20murder2001.jpg)
Hehe, I was thinking that too... but I imdb and seen a 2000-something movie so assumed its the 2000-something version. Although if he was refering the 1971 movie then please tell me the movies it stole from... I would like to see them :)
I can't distingush most of the HALLOWEEN,NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET,or FRIDAY THE 13 sequels one from the next. Monotonus slice and dice. blah.
Quote from: RCMerchant on March 02, 2010, 05:56:06 PM
I can't distingush most of the HALLOWEEN,NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET,or FRIDAY THE 13 sequels one from the next. Monotonus slice and dice. blah.
With the exception of Halloween 3 I hope... :)
Sometimes I wonder about the original Halloween 1978, its basically an American version of a giallo... Halloween's success is purely the camera work and the sound, the story seems to get weak the more I see it and Rob Zombie's version is also weaker. I do think Rob Zombie's Halloween could of been so much better if he kept it as a prequel and the story ends with the escape... It would make an exceptable Halloween 2 (I never like the original Halloween 2 either), although I cannot forgive Rob Zombie for "The Great Rape Escape!" It seems insulting for me to think a bunch of orderlies would rape a pantent, not in her cell but in Michael Myers cell.
Friday the 13th is not really original, its intended to be a rip-off from the Halloween success by rip-off the murder scenes in Bay of Blood (another giallo) but the low budget and box office success has unintentionally started the whole camper/holiday slasher movement [more so then Halloween]... :)
Quote from: Skull on March 02, 2010, 10:49:07 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on March 02, 2010, 05:56:06 PM
I can't distingush most of the HALLOWEEN,NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET,or FRIDAY THE 13 sequels one from the next. Monotonus slice and dice. blah.
With the exception of Halloween 3 I hope... :)
Sometimes I wonder about the original Halloween 1978, its basically an American version of a giallo... Halloween's success is purely the camera work and the sound, the story seems to get weak the more I see it and Rob Zombie's version is also weaker. I do think Rob Zombie's Halloween could of been so much better if he kept it as a prequel and the story ends with the escape... It would make an exceptable Halloween 2 (I never like the original Halloween 2 either), although I cannot forgive Rob Zombie for "The Great Rape Escape!" It seems insulting for me to think a bunch of orderlies would rape a pantent, not in her cell but in Michael Myers cell.
Friday the 13th is not really original, its intended to be a rip-off from the Halloween success by rip-off the murder scenes in Bay of Blood (another giallo) but the low budget and box office success has unintentionally started the whole camper/holiday slasher movement [more so then Halloween]... :)
Agree! Most people think HALLOWEEN 3 was the WORST of the sequels...but I like it the MOST! Supposedly,the Halloween series was gonna be a series of films based on the idea of separate films with a Halloween theme...money people squelched that idea...so it became all Micheal Meyers...and a dive into medrocrity instead of originality...so it goes. :bluesad:
Quote from: RCMerchant on March 02, 2010, 11:01:12 PM
Agree! Most people think HALLOWEEN 3 was the WORST of the sequels...but I like it the MOST! Supposedly,the Halloween series was gonna be a series of films based on the idea of separate films with a Halloween theme...money people squelched that idea...so it became all Micheal Meyers...and a dive into medrocrity instead of originality...so it goes. :bluesad:
I think that's the one where the not so pretty girl gets "all dolled up..." to be slaughtered... :bouncegiggle: why do I think that's funny??? :question: :bouncegiggle: :bluesad:
HALLOWEEN 3 is one of my favorite Horror flicks... :cheers:
Quote from: Javakoala on March 02, 2010, 05:15:54 PM
Quote from: Chainsawmidget on March 01, 2010, 03:25:30 PM
When me and a friend of mine were watching Scream Bloody Murder, we started counting how many elements were taken from other movies. We lost track somewhere in the twenties. Cookie-cutter slasher movie there without an original bone in its body.
When you say SCREAM BLOODY MURDER, so you mean the more recent one, or are you talking about the old one from the 70s?
I'm thinking you must be referring to the newer one because the older one is mental in a wonderfully weird way.
Yeah, the newer one.
You know how when it's Halloween you can go and find costumes that aren't
quite Jason Voorhees and Michael Myers costumes. This is the movie equivalent of them. Generic Store-brand Friday the 13th.
Friday the 13th is definitely generic. It pretty much follows the slasher rules as precisely as possible. At no point does it ever differ from them ever so slightly to get a bit of originality. I'm pretty sure they must have looked at the most common things slashers before them did - then decided to use them as law in fear that they may fail otherwise.
Well, generic horror films are not a recent invention. They actually may have started with the Universal horror films. The Universal Frankenstein series and Universal's "The Wolf Man" was so successful, some Universal suit decided let's put Frankenstein's Monster with the Wolf Man and you have 1943's "Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man." And that was apparently so successful that they decided to add even more horror characters, such as Dracula, a hunchback, a mad doctor, etc. and they came out with 1944's "House of Frankenstein" and 1945's "House of Dracula." And when the whole series began to verge, unintentionally, into comedy, they made the intentional comedy "Bud Abbott Lou Costello Meet Frankenstein," which didn't have a mad doctor or a hunchback, but did have the Invisible Man.
I have seen most, if not all, of these films, and while they may be generic, they are alot of fun to watch.