Why the hell is Gremlins on this list?
Anyways, what is your thoughts?
http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Most-Racist-Movies (http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Most-Racist-Movies)
Another ill compiled list I find with a few chioces I agree with here and there. They're implying Gremlins are reprsentative of black youths...oh f*ck off will ya! Sorry but thats just stupid. :thumbdown: If anything, I thought they'd claim it was offensive to Asians.
Quote from: The DarkSider on March 20, 2010, 06:57:55 PM
Another ill compiled list I find with a few chioces I agree with here and there. They're implying Gremlins are reprsentative of black youths...oh f*ck off will ya! Sorry but thats just stupid. :thumbdown: If anything, I thought they'd claim it was offensive to Asians.
Yeah, it is a very stupid list indeed. Personally, I brought this list up to get everyone's thoughts on it and see what they have to say about it.
If anything, this list is racist. What a load of crap!
I guess they never saw WONDER BAR...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd2RwyMY7OY
With a hidey hidey ho, indeed.
How stupid is including GREMLINS? Uhm, did it ever occur to the compiler of this poser's list that the Gremlins of the title (GREMLINS) were supposed to be children - any and all children - particularly if parented poorly?? As the Asian sage (you know, the obvious stereotype in the film played by KEYE LUKE) states: "You teach them to watch Television!"
I'd say there is a difference between racism and playing up a stereotype. For me, racism is all about hatred. I personally don't think any of those films were done out of hatred towards another race. The world simply gets too serious at times if someone pokes fun at ethnic stereotypes. Personally, I'm half Polish and can rattle off jokes at my expense for hours. I've said it before and I'll say it again, political correctness will kill humor in our society.
Quote from: The DarkSider on March 20, 2010, 08:43:53 PM
I'd say there is a difference between racism and playing up a stereotype. For me, racism is all about hatred. I personally don't think any of those films were done out of hatred towards another race. The world simply gets too serious at times if someone pokes fun at ethnic stereotypes. Personally, I'm half Polish and can rattle off jokes at my expense for hours. I've said it before and I'll say it again, political correctness will kill humor in our society.
And how come God invented whiskey?
So the Irish wouldn't rule the world!
OK, I know we all love to find more reasons to hate The Phantom Menace, but come on, saying it's racist is a big stretch!!
Quote from: Paquita on March 20, 2010, 09:18:23 PM
OK, I know we all love to find more reasons to hate The Phantom Menace, but come on, saying it's racist is a big stretch!!
Lucas definitely used accents of earthly origins...why...well I have no friggin clue as with most Lucas does hands on but racist...nah. Annoying yes...thats about it.
Wait a minute, I didn't see Aladdin on there earlier...wtf???
Ok, who's up for a game...give me a movie thats not on the list and I'll draw outlandish conclusion into how and why it is racist.
Forrest gump and........go.
What a bizarre list.
Agree with Darksider, a few of those movies that have some parts that are pretty racist.
However, a lot of those movies are having too much read into them...
With a list this wacko, I now remember why I normally avoid looking at most of these kind of lists....
I love how they complain about Aladdin In typical Disney fashion, whitewashed Aladdin is about as Arabian as the cast of 90210
Aladdin in the origianl stories is from China. A fictionalized China, yes, but he is Chinese.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aladdin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aladdin)
Big trouble in little china?
Oh, f**k you, list.
Gremlins?
You a***ole...
FALLING DOWN?!
Okay, f**k this list.
Seriously.
I think they missed the point of Jack's character in Big Trouble in Little China. He was more of a pardoy of action heroes than the hero itself. More often he just messed up than actually did anything useful. The villains and the main hero where all Chinese.
I don't even think they bothered watching Falling Down at all. "Poor white male" The "poor white male" was the friggin' villain of the movie!
Really the whole list is just insulting.
It seems like every time a movie features a minority as a bad guy, it's racists.
If there are minorities in the movie, but a white guy is the hero, it's racists.
If a minority is used for comic purposes, it's racists. Funny how they don't point out anytimes white people act like idiots is racist.
PLANET OF THE APES? PLANET OF THE APES??????
One of the best sci fi movies ever!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AINUR0w2M2U
Of course the gorillas were mean-THEY'RE GORILLAS! The history of horror films are loaded with gorillas! Big scary,hairy,ugly! Big teeth! KONGA! KILL KONGA! KILL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6k1rMW-WLM
Pretty stupid list, with some pretty lousy movies on it.
I believe that the person who did this wasn't doing a real f**king job. Seriously, Gremlins? Aladdin? Just why? WHY?!
I won't read lists like that, where you have to click through every entry to find the next one. So, did they include BIRTH OF A NATION and TRIUMPH OF THE WILL?
Quote from: Rev. Powell on March 21, 2010, 10:26:41 AM
I won't read lists like that, where you have to click through every entry to find the next one. So, did they include BIRTH OF A NATION and TRIUMPH OF THE WILL?
Thank you very much! No-they did not. Course they don't watch movies......just comment blindly about something they know nothing about. Stupid humans. Stupid! STUPID!
Did they have any movies on the list featuring Fu Manchu, Charlie Chan, Mr. Wong and Mr. Moto? - Asian characters who often tend to get played by European or Hawaiin actors. Not that I personally think of any of those (except maybe sometimes Fu Manchu) as particularly racist though since the quasi Asian lead is nearly always the wise hero.
Quote from: xJaseSFx on March 21, 2010, 11:23:22 AM
Did they have any movies on the list featuring Fu Manchu, Charlie Chan, Mr. Wong and Mr. Moto? - Asian characters who often tend to get played by European or Hawaiin actors. Not that I personally think of any of those (except maybe sometimes Fu Manchu) as particularly racist though since the quasi Asian lead is nearly always the wise hero.
Not one "Yellow Threat" movie from the 30's. No old movies showing blacks as shiftless lazy idiots,asians as buck teeth monsters (GUNG HO anyone?) or mexicans as sleepy drunks. Or southeners as moonshine swilling idiots or yankee killing psychos. Or 'the only good indian is a dead indian." :hatred: In fact-the namless author mostly makes mountains of molehills-. I think he needs to get laid-he reads too much into stuff.
Alot of the movies he listed-I don't care about. But PLANET OF THE APES???? Uhhh......
Its not "The 50 Most Racist Movies Ever," its the "50 movies you didnt know were racist," which is why stuff like Birth of a Nation was not mentioned. That said, the person who wrote it is going out of their way to look for stuff to criticize, and many of the assumptions they come to are rooted in their own racial issues.
Hmmm, reading too far into things, and finding racist connotations, sounds like sociology!
Well, bad sociology, like a sociologist is trying to make a name for themself.
If you read too far into "Green Eggs and Ham", it could possibly be about trying out gay sex-- think about it, two green eggs, and a big ol' green ham!
"I will not try them here or there, I will not try them anywhere; I do not like them Sam I Am".
At the VERY least, "Green Eggs And Ham" is exclusionary and elitist. How dare we present this conservative trash to our children!?!
Being Irish and Celtic, I love jokes and ones about my people are wonderful.
What is the difference between an Irish funeral and an Irish wedding?
One less drunk.
This list is a joke. Someone needed to whip something up to keep from getting fired and what would sound better than an article about movies you never knew were racist. Let's not forget the Francis movies; according to them, all donkeys are Southern smart asses.
I don't think I'm spoiling the list by revealing number 1 for anyone. However deep
though about it won't do you any good. They claimed Breakfast at Tiffany's as #1 for portraying Mickey Rooney as Audrey Hepburn's Japanese landlord.
The only thing lists like this prove is that some people seriously need to get a life.
Quote from: RCMerchant on March 21, 2010, 10:10:48 AM
PLANET OF THE APES? PLANET OF THE APES??????
One of the best sci fi movies ever!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AINUR0w2M2U
Of course the gorillas were mean-THEY'RE GORILLAS! The history of horror films are loaded with gorillas! Big scary,hairy,ugly! Big teeth! KONGA! KILL KONGA! KILL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6k1rMW-WLM
I think the beef with Planet of the Apes is that people perceived that the gorillas were meant to portray blacks, and portrayed them as violent and less intelligent, and the chimps were meant to reflect whites, less violent and more intelligent. I'm not saying that's correct, I'm just saying that was the perception by many.
I dare ask who the racist one is: The people who made those movies, or the one seeing hidden racist messages and agendas? Pretty weak list. I would never have thought to look at Gremlins as an allegory for black children. Never in a million years. That takes a special kind of person who doesn't realize how either insecure or racist they actually are. :lookingup:
Quote from: Joe the Destroyer on March 22, 2010, 01:23:37 PM
I dare ask who the racist one is: The people who made those movies, or the one seeing hidden racist messages and agendas? Pretty weak list. I would never have thought to look at Gremlins as an allegory for black children. Never in a million years. That takes a special kind of person who doesn't realize how either insecure or racist they actually are. :lookingup:
Totally agreed. I've seen that film several times since seeing it in the theatre (yes, I'm old). I never EVER took that from the film. You really have to read that in.
Quote from: Joe the Destroyer on March 22, 2010, 01:23:37 PM
I dare ask who the racist one is: The people who made those movies, or the one seeing hidden racist messages and agendas? Pretty weak list. I would never have thought to look at Gremlins as an allegory for black children. Never in a million years. That takes a special kind of person who doesn't realize how either insecure or racist they actually are. :lookingup:
Absolutely. The person(s) behind the list are the ones with the racial issues, they're projecting.
I looked at the list and all I have to say is what????? :question:
I will admit that some of the movies are a little on the bad side and touch on subject that are Taboo. But really, should we waste time and make a movie list on what is more racist than the next? We should take the time and energy that was spent on the list and focus on the positive in life.
I now remember why I do not look at lists like this. It is just someone complaining about life and looking for some recognition of his or her's meger talent.
My two cents.
Later,
John
Quote from: Fausto on March 21, 2010, 12:24:36 PM
Its not "The 50 Most Racist Movies Ever," its the "50 movies you didnt know were racist," which is why stuff like Birth of a Nation was not mentioned. That said, the person who wrote it is going out of their way to look for stuff to criticize, and many of the assumptions they come to are rooted in their own racial issues.
Thanks for pointing that out (it's there in the fine print), but they did prominently title the list "The 50 Most Racist Movies Ever," not "50 movies you didn't know were racist." So, they're being deliberately misleading as well as silly. Looks to me like they're just attempting to manufacture controversy to gain attention. We're giving the creators of this list too much credit by even discussing it.
Quote from: Rev. Powell on March 22, 2010, 06:11:30 PM
Quote from: Fausto on March 21, 2010, 12:24:36 PM
Its not "The 50 Most Racist Movies Ever," its the "50 movies you didnt know were racist," which is why stuff like Birth of a Nation was not mentioned. That said, the person who wrote it is going out of their way to look for stuff to criticize, and many of the assumptions they come to are rooted in their own racial issues.
Thanks for pointing that out (it's there in the fine print), but they did prominently title the list "The 50 Most Racist Movies Ever," not "50 movies you didn't know were racist." So, they're being deliberately misleading as well as silly. Looks to me like they're just attempting to manufacture controversy to gain attention. We're giving the creators of this list too much credit by even discussing it.
Is it really racist if you don't know it's racist? I'm so confused.
This silly list reminded me of this rant. The only good part of Chasing Amy I find....
NSFW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMCki0Z_AlA
Anyone else get the sense the writer felt more racist himself than anything else?
I had to lol at the inclusion of Dragon Ball Evolution for "hurr durr white people playin azns", Goku was an alien in the manga, and Dragon Ball never really took place on the same earth we know. :lookingup:
Breakfast At Tiffany's? Planet Of The Apes? Passion of The Christ?Gremlins?
All I have to say is what the hell? :question: :buggedout:
Where are the racial orientated films in which each group calls each other by derogatory terms? None here as far as I can see. This writer is reading too much into too little.
I've seen 30% of the films listed. Does that make me a racist?
I actually liked 85.8% of those that I've seen. Does that make me a racist?
No, but from the general to the more specific.
Using their criteria for what makes a film racist, you can brand almost every film that contains a racial minority as being racist.
And now on to the more specifics. (And that is not to say that any of these films are racist.)
"Jungle to Jungle, which is included, was the American remake of the French film "Little Indian, Big City," which is not included.
The Bond film "You Only Live Twice" is included, but not the Bond films "Dr. No" and "Live and Let Die."
"Song of the South" is included, but nothing in that film makes me cringe as much as the musical number "What Makes the Red Man Red?" in "Peter Pan," which is not included.
Those people who compiled their list, obviously don't know their films.
Thus, somewhere out there, there may be a list of the most racist films made in Hollywood, but this is not it.
Quote from: RCMerchant on March 21, 2010, 10:10:48 AM
PLANET OF THE APES? PLANET OF THE APES??????One of the best sci fi movies ever!!!!!
Of course the gorillas were mean-THEY'RE GORILLAS! The history of horror films are loaded with gorillas! Big scary,hairy,ugly! Big teeth! KONGA! KILL KONGA! KILL!
Well, the compiler of this list apparently recognized a "class" structure in the
APES world, which I'm sure the writers of the screenplay fully intended to be there. And the film is without doubt a hard look at racism in any form, simply turning the tables not black on white, but rather more provocatively human on animal. And though there is a hierarchy in the
APES world, on the human Space mission from 20th century Earth, a black man is one of three crew members... it's worth noting it's a film made in 1967 at a time when racial issues had a long way to go, were being very publicly exposed, and had only seriously been addressed in cinema for the previous 20 Post-War years, sparsely at first but gaining momentum into the 1960s. I think this writer just didn't think hard enough about it and hasn't seen enough film.
Quote from: xJaseSFx on March 21, 2010, 11:23:22 AM
Did they have any movies on the list featuring Fu Manchu, Charlie Chan, Mr. Wong and Mr. Moto? - Asian characters who often tend to get played by European or Hawaiin actors. Not that I personally think of any of those (except maybe sometimes Fu Manchu) as particularly racist though since the quasi Asian lead is nearly always the wise hero.
Not sure, but movies tended to be newer (as in say the last 30 years, but hardly entirely)... their #1 Racist movie is
BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S with that horrible performance by
MICKEY ROONEY, one of Hollywood's last greatly apparent lapses in judgment, but is racist in no revelatory way. Certainly, what were they thinking in 1961? However, who didn't always see how silly that performance was included in that film? My attitude at this late date is
it's reaching if that small part is the worst they can come up with. How about
IMITATION OF LIFE (1959)? Other films were mentioned, but this lame list speaks for itself.
Quote from: Rev. Powell on March 22, 2010, 06:11:30 PM
Quote from: Fausto on March 21, 2010, 12:24:36 PM
Its not "The 50 Most Racist Movies Ever," its the "50 movies you didnt know were racist," which is why stuff like Birth of a Nation was not mentioned. That said, the person who wrote it is going out of their way to look for stuff to criticize, and many of the assumptions they come to are rooted in their own racial issues.
Thanks for pointing that out (it's there in the fine print), but they did prominently title the list "The 50 Most Racist Movies Ever," not "50 movies you didn't know were racist." So, they're being deliberately misleading as well as silly. Looks to me like they're just attempting to manufacture controversy to gain attention. We're giving the creators of this list too much credit by even discussing it.
Right you are.