A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) - 9/10
Freddy's Revenge - 7/10
Dream Warriors - 3/10
Dream Master - 3/10
Dream Child - 3/10
Freddy's Dead - 2/10
New Nightmare - 8/10
Freddy vs. Jason - 7/10
Remake - 2/10
The reason I didn't like anything from Dream Warriors to Freddy's Dead was because Freddy became a jokester and lost his menace. I can't even enjoy them as B-Movies. The original is superb and part 2 was interesting despite the gay subtext, but at least Freddy was still dark and serious. New Nightmare was a long awaited return to form and FVJ was fun unlike the majority of the sequels. The remake was just terrible I can't express it into words.
I'm pretty sure there was a previous thread lidentical to this one but well I liked Dream Warriors the best, then the first film, New Nightmare, Dream Master, Freddy's Revenge, Dream Child, Freddy's Dead and finally I absolutely hated Freddy vs. Jason.
Oh yay unlike Friday the 13th iv'e seen all these films, not counting the from what Iv'e heard awful remake.
Nightmare On elm Street
Dream Warriors
New Nightmare
The Dream Master
Freddy's dead
The Dream Child
Freddy's Revenge
Freddy Vs Jason
from least favorite to most favorite...
7- Dream Child (i adore the ANOES franchise, its my favorite of the "big 3" slasher franchises, but seriously i HATE this movie... with there being only a handful of redeeming qualities even allowing me to sit through it during my annual ANOES marathons... the child star in this flick is just AWFUL!)
6- Freddy's Dead
5- Freddy's Revenge (despite how poorly it ranks on this last, i'd like to say thart i've re-watched this film again several times recently, and i think it's underrated and doesn't deserve so much of the ire it gets)
4- the original ANOES
3- Dream Master (stupid, but SO MUCH fun, and, despite the fact that some people will think i'm nuts for ranking this above the original ANOES, i just have to say that i... freaking... LOOOOOOVE... Tuesday Knight)
2- New Nightmare (pop-horror and meta-horror combine with fantastic results!)
1- Dream Warriors (blends the darkness and intelligence of the original ANOES and New Nightmare with the campy, cartoon surreality of the later entries, without overdoing either element)
the remake was abominable... better than the f13 remake, I admit, but nevertheless, it's not even worth ranking in my book
i'm also not counting freddy vs. jason, because of its oddball one-off status (i prefer to think of new nightmare as the franchise's curtain call, and for years new nightmare was my favorite) and also because, to this day, i remain torn on it.... on one hand, the part of me that appreciates quality cinema with good stories, good acting, and not blatantly superficial, opportunistic attempts to cater to the tween market and capitalize on pop culture cachet... that part of me hates freddy vs. jason thoroughly... on THE OTHER HAND, a different part of me, in fact a larger part of my personality i must confess, is the part of me that is still the same pimply-faced pre-teen crretin who eagerly geeked out over issues of fangoria and watched slasher films religiously when i was a kid... and that part of me simply canNOT hate any movie that has both freddy AND jason in it
Nightmare On Elm Street, Freddy's Revenge, Dream Warriors & New Nightmare are the only ones that exist to me. I will not even begin to accept the others having been made, never, ever. That way I don't have to get mad and realise there's nothing I can do about it.
I liked the first, Freddy's Revenge, and the Dream Warriors (DOKKEN!) ones the best. As for the rest I never really went out of my way to see them, but when I did see them I was not impressed in the least. Totally agree about the fact that Freddy became more of a jokester as the series went on, and that's what killed the series for me.
I am obsessed with all these films, I think they are great fun and pure entertainment. I have never or will ever watch the re-make. There is simply no point.
New nightmare I thought bought an new darker Freddy which I really enjoyed.
And Freddy Vs Jason? I can't complain. It is exactly what I thought it would be.
The first one was great, I'd give it a 5/5. I think I saw Dream Warriors a while back and that was okay. Didn't care for / only watched a little bit of the others.
Seriously I don't get the love for Dream Warriors. It goes with a fantasy witch craft vibe which for me is one of the campiest concepts of the franchise. It turns Freddy into a one-liner prankster stripping away his menace spontaneously, it has shocking acting, poor pacing and all this combined makes the film feel dated.
For me out of the all the so-called 'corny sequels' (starting with part 3 and ending at part 6), I think part 5 had the most potential in terms of restoring the dark roots back into the series. It had a interesting story, great cinemagraphic, gruesome SPX and some very good design work. If it were taken more seriously and with slight changes to the script it could have been excellent. What we got though was crap.
I already made a thread like this.
Whatever, here's my ranking:
1) Nightmare On Elm Street (1984) 5/5
2) Wes Craven's New Nightmare 4.8/5
3) Freddy's Revenge 4.5/5
4) Dream Warriors 4.3/5
5) Freddy vs Jason 4.1/5
6) Freddy's Dead 4/5
7) The Dream Child 3.1/5
8) The Dream Master 2/5
9) Nightmare on Elm Street (2010) 1.5/5
The first five are the best. The only one I haven't seen is "A New Nightmare" (I need to get around to it). The remake is OK, but 90% of what makes Freddy great is Robert Englund's personality. Anyone could play Micheal Myers or Jason, they are faceless non personalities. Freddy is so much a part of Robert, I can't believe thay would do a movie without him. The new Freddy is typical of too many modern movie characters: bland, boring and no personality. Too much realism in a performance is boring, I miss the days when actors really went for it.
Quote from: Robocop on April 17, 2011, 07:48:48 PM
For me out of the all the so-called 'corny sequels' (starting with part 3 and ending at part 6), I think part 5 had the most potential in terms of restoring the dark roots back into the series. It had a interesting story, great cinemagraphic, gruesome SPX and some very good design work. If it were taken more seriously and with slight changes to the script it could have been excellent. What we got though was crap.
I actually agree with you there. If you took away all the goofy stuff and humour from 4 & 5, then I think they would have been great movies. I still would have called it a day after that though.
You know, I don't really mind all the humor, cartoonishness, and silly stupidity of the sequels. I've always kind of viewed the ANOES series as a sort of pop culture ipecac. It eats up all our garbage and pukes it back in our faces. When the remake was coming out, everyone was abuzz about how this was going to "return the series to its dark roots." Dark roots are fine, but I kind of like the punky pink mohawk the franchise dyed its roots over with back in the 80's. If going back to the dark roots is what the remake did, then you can keep it. The only part where I think the series REALLY faltered was with Dream Child, which I chalk up less to the silliness and more to (what I found to be) irritating, unlikeable characters and a contrived, nonsensical plot (which did have a few shining ideas, but mostly surrounded by a bunch of toilet gunk).
Personally, I've always enjoyed the "trickster" character archetype, a la' The Joker, The Cryptkeeper, and Freddy Krueger. Freddy is a great example of that type, a motormouthed ADD-afflicted black humor juggernaut.
Circus, you mentioned that you think that if they took the humor out of Dream Master, then it would've been a great movie. I personally think Dream Master IS a great movie. It's corny and campy and surrealistic/absurdist cheese, but that's what I like. I'm a big animation hound, and one of the things I really dug about Freddy was how he was basically a homicidal cartoon character. In his world, the laws of reality are similar to the laws in a Looney Tunes short, only with more sex and death. Sex, death, and zany antics? Sounds like a party to me.
For better or for worse, the ANOES is a cultural snapshot of the 1980's, in all its gaudy, neon, plastic inanity. It all depends, I think, on whether you like, love, or hate the 80's (I loooove 'em), how you feel about the horror-comedy mash-up in general, and how beholden you think a movie's sequels should be to the spirit of the original.
Unsurprisingly, I'm a big fan of Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2, also.
The original (of course)
Dream Warriors
New Nightmare
The Dream Child
The Dream Master
Freddy's Revenge
The Final Nightmare
Freddy VS Jason
The remake
GOD TIER - Original :teddyr:
Garbage tier - Everything else
MUST BE DESTROYED - The remake :hatred:
I think I'm just about the only person who actually likes the 2010 remake as much as I like the original.
Yes. Yes you are. ^^
Thought Jackie Earle Haley was great as Freddy.
Was hoping there'd be a sequel. Looks unlikely now.
NOES - 9/10
Freddy's Revenge - 6/10
Dream Warriors - 6/10
Dream Master - 4/10
Dream Child - 4/10
Freddy's Dead - 1/10
New Nightmare - 5/10
Freddy vs Jason - 3/10 (now if it had been Freddy vs Jason vs Ash.....)
Remake - didn't see
Quote from: ChaosTheory on January 27, 2012, 12:00:15 AM
Freddy vs Jason - 3/10 (now if it had been Freddy vs Jason vs Ash.....)
I see what you did there.
"I said where's the f*#king bourbon?!" -Freddy, Dream Warriors
I'll rank them in preference order:
The Original: great atmosphere, tension, pacing, and best final girl. Freddy is creepy.
Freddy vs. Jason: great comic book style cross-over with a plethora of references. Good pacing, surprisingly decent plot, and tons of gore. And Jason so kicked his ass.
Dream Warriors: the comic-book Freddy vs. a group of misfits with powers.
A New Nightmare: Freddy's scary again! More Heather!
Freddy's Revenge: different take on Freddy -he was still creepy. Lots of symbolism.
Dream Master: a piece of s**t
Dream Child: a clone of a piece of s**t
Freddy's Dead: a piece of s**t with Rosanne Barr
Remake: this movie is so brown it makes s**t look rainbow
I personally would've preferred Freddy VS Michael.
Though I'd take Gremlins VS Critters over anything.
A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) - 10/10
Freddy's Revenge - 2/10
Dream Warriors - 9/10
Dream Master -4/10
Dream Child - 6/10
Freddy's Dead - 9/10
New Nightmare - 7/10
Freddy vs. Jason - 7/10
Remake - 0/10 (More like -10 out off 10 ... I hated the remake with a passion)
The first one gets 10 out off 10 for me cause it was an old school 80's horror flick when I saw it as a 13 year old in 2001 and it had the potential to give me insomnia for nearly a year, because the film did not focus on blood and gore alone to scare the viewers, they used the reality off the personal inner demons off every person. Young or old. Who not only is the result off their parents sin, but he used their inner demons against these kids to really mess with them. Worse off all??? they are in a place their parents can not save them, there dreams, a plan off existence that has always provoked questions. It was even said in the movie "No one knows where they even come from" which was very true at the time. There for this bogey man in dreams is frightening. Cause at the time for all people knew you could very well wake up dead due to a killer killing you in your sleep. And you have to sleep at some point. This movie still freaked people out for other reasons. Freddy, was not your average silent creepy serial killer. He was egotistical and proud off his psychopathic ways. The fact he laughed at peoples pain freaked me out. Cause it proved how evil he was. He enjoyed it and was convinced he can do what he wants.
The first movie is hard to beat in terms off how scary it is to viewers. The wes craven intended to make it only one movie, but the fans wanted more. The other movies were not as scary. But I still love them cause they are entertaining, and interesting to watch. I did not like Freddys revenge. It's one off those sequals you love or hate. I hated it a lot, it just did not have the better charectors or themes. But I see what people mean that is had more scary elements, because freddy just turned into a joker and not as memancing after Dream warriors.
Dream Warriors I can relate to being in a Mental Asylum myself. It is not scary but I love how they brought Nancy back and this was Patricia arquette's first movie role. (She latter plays a Allison Dubois in Medium... Another person who is hunted by dreams) And Patricia arquette's charector also has a dream talent. The story itself was just entertaining if not scary.
As the next two movies were not as good but they filled in a lot off blanks untill Freddys dead. That movie really more funny than scary but I loved it. Coming back to the town and all the children and teenagers gone. Leaving a bunch off insane adults, thanks to Freddy. Freddy finally is defeated. By his long lost daughter. The fact the tittle is Freddys dead. means that he obviously was not meant to win or make viewers guess if he was going to win. So they made it funny and jokingly. Why not??
The new nightmare film... I hated at first. But when I saw it again. I loved it! they went back to their roots, with the question. How are you sure what is real??? It was very good in that respect. How they brought back so many memories from the previous movies.
Now as for the tragic REMAKE! My friend kept asking me questions about Nightmare on elm street. like "What was that room they kept talking about?" And why would the girl forget about what happened so easily??" I answered, and thought she got the originals mixed up. it was the remake... the remake made everyone in the cinema laugh. That famous death scene where the blonde girl is being slashed to bits levitating in the air in front off her boyfriend. They actually made it funny. As the movie went on the room was freddys hidding place... Not a boiler room. and they forgot about him sexually abusing them. How would you just forget them?? I thought my friend meant. How can they just forget nearly being killed in the dreams latter in other movies, I said "They did not, but they would have liked too" She did not get it... I HATE THE REMAKE!!!
Other the nightmare on elm streets movies are some off my favorite movies off all time. I LOVE THEM!! :)
A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) 5/5
Freddy's Revenge 3/5
Dream Warriors 4/5
The Dream Master 3/5
Dream Child 1/5
Freddy's Dead 3/5
A New Nightmare 2/5
Freddy Vs. Jason 3/5
A Nightmare on Elm Street (2010) 2/5
1. A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) - Barely wins out over
2. New Nightmare, which takes the series into a seriously new and interesting place.
3. Freddy's Revenge is bad, but the gay aspect is so fascinating, and the atmosphere is really thick.
4. The Dream Warriors is silly. Way silly. But there are a few scares and it's well-done in general.
5. Freddy vs. Jason is mostly uninspired, but the actual battle is entertaining as shiz.
6. The Dream Master - Don't remember much, but I know it didn't suck as bad as
7. Freddy's Dead, which was just fun enough to be watchable. Also, Breckin Meyer is great.
8. The Dream Child. I just remember this one sucking. I should watch it again to make sure.
1. Nightmare On Elm Street 8/10
The original, what can I say?
2. Freddy's Revenge 2/10
Meh, I have this thing about actually needing to like the protagonist.
3. Dream Warriors 8/10
Like in this film, I really liked the characters. Not that I'm a D&D nerd / reject or anything... Oh God... I am...
4. Dream Master 6/10
Just had to kill off the dream team, huh? Cool ending.
5. Dream Child ?/?
Never saw it.
6. Freddy's Dead 6/10
Aside from this movie breaking the rules and being almost a self parody I really enjoyed watching this movie. The effects were good, It was dark, bloody and funny at times. My type of flawed gem.
7. New Nightmare 4/10
I have never liked the whole movie in a movie thing. The only time that has ever worked for me was "In the Mouth of Madness" Understand that this is just my taste.