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Title: Finally watched the Japanese cut of King Kong vs. Godzilla
Post by: daveblackeye15 on June 09, 2011, 02:52:23 AM
I always come back. I'm like Solomon Kane returning to England, he always goes back for a month or so. Not that anyone will remember me.

After so long I saw the Japanese cut of this film. I'm kind of torn on it. On the one hand a lot of Godzilla's most memorable music first appeared in this one and we don't hear it in the U.S. cut. On the other hand, I think Ifukube's score gets a little too quiet in parts where something bombastic would have helped. Bits like when Kong sits and waits to grab Godzilla's tail or that claymation bit with Godzilla doing his drop kick.

I don't mind those added in scenes with Americans. But yikes the actors they had for the American sub were terrible! I think they were trying to make it as undramatic as possible.

Biggest change is that there are more human scenes and the film is more like a Japanese Salary Man comedy with giant monsters. Poor Honda, I'm sure he hated directing the comedy bits. I sure see a whole lot more skill, directionm and life in the monster scenes.
Title: Re: Finally watched the Japanese cut of King Kong vs. Godzilla
Post by: RCMerchant on June 09, 2011, 04:54:18 AM
I remember you! Welcome back!  :smile:

I always found the Kong Island scenes with the "natives" very painful to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4aYZTe-SDw&feature=related
Title: Re: Finally watched the Japanese cut of King Kong vs. Godzilla
Post by: akiratubo on June 09, 2011, 07:29:07 AM
The American cut is actually much better, because it really is a monster movie.  The Japanese cut is a painfully bad comedy that has a couple of monster scenes in it.  It's almost as hard to get through as the '98 Emmerich/Devlin movie.
Title: Re: Finally watched the Japanese cut of King Kong vs. Godzilla
Post by: Flangepart on June 09, 2011, 08:44:01 AM
I have to say, the U.S. dub is funnier than the original. But I did like having a chance to see the original to compare notes. Too bad the Sony run couldn't get the rights to it, but my boot is still running, so far.

In the book about Tsubarya, they reveal that the octopi actors were four in number (I KNEW they were real).
Three got released into the sea, the other was eaten. He must have been the best actor in the bunch...well, that's showbiz for ya...
Title: Re: Finally watched the Japanese cut of King Kong vs. Godzilla
Post by: venomx on June 09, 2011, 10:29:27 AM
I remember you, daveblackeye15. :thumbup: How could we forget King Ghidorah?

I still need to watch the Japanese cut, as I lost my US vhs cut years ago.

@ RC, LOL! Yeah that's funny as HELL.

"it's okay... they're ALL smoking!" "Inhale, inhale! They satisfy!" :twirl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOJ40a2P9t0&feature=related
"The Sleeping Devil" Song.
Title: Re: Finally watched the Japanese cut of King Kong vs. Godzilla
Post by: Umaril The Unfeathered on June 09, 2011, 11:28:49 AM
Quote from: daveblackeye15 on June 09, 2011, 02:52:23 AM
I always come back. I'm like Solomon Kane returning to England, he always goes back for a month or so. Not that anyone will remember me.

After so long I saw the Japanese cut of this film. I'm kind of torn on it. On the one hand a lot of Godzilla's most memorable music first appeared in this one and we don't hear it in the U.S. cut. On the other hand, I think Ifukube's score gets a little too quiet in parts where something bombastic would have helped. Bits like when Kong sits and waits to grab Godzilla's tail or that claymation bit with Godzilla doing his drop kick.

I remember you brutha'!  Wecome back  :cheers:

I agree with you on the musical issues in the Toho films and the vast differences in the American and Japanese versions.

For example, I have the Japanese version of War Of The Gargantuas and the same thing abounds..many scenes where there were music in the American version have none or very little in the Japanese version and together wityh dubbing it sets a whole different mood.

However, they had the common sense to keep Ifukube's music in the scene where Sanda comes to rescue Gaira in what is my fave scene in the whole movie.
Title: Re: Finally watched the Japanese cut of King Kong vs. Godzilla
Post by: akiratubo on June 09, 2011, 12:29:46 PM
The American cut also has much more dynamic music (even if it is stock music) and much better application of SFX, especially the monster roars.
Title: Re: Finally watched the Japanese cut of King Kong vs. Godzilla
Post by: Ed, Ego and Superego on June 09, 2011, 01:58:02 PM
Hi Dave, still in Oregon? I have only seen the US cut of this.  This movie stands out because it was THE monster movie of part of my childhood. Its a part of my psyche. 
-Ed
Title: Re: Finally watched the Japanese cut of King Kong vs. Godzilla
Post by: Flangepart on June 09, 2011, 02:16:01 PM
Watched it with dad at the old Eastside drive in when it came out. Mom worked nights, and dad had the same film tastes as me, so I remember peering over the back seat as Godzilla came up from the sea to attack the army base. I was 6 or 7 that year. :smile:
Title: Re: Finally watched the Japanese cut of King Kong vs. Godzilla
Post by: daveblackeye15 on June 10, 2011, 03:12:28 AM
Yes still in Oregon.

I meant to say 'I didn't mind that the American add-ins were gone.' I think this is the ONE exception to preferring the U.S. cut. The sole exception. But I do wish some of Ifukube's music stayed in the U.S. cut.
Title: Re: Finally watched the Japanese cut of King Kong vs. Godzilla
Post by: daveblackeye15 on June 10, 2011, 02:47:06 PM
BTW. What's the best DVD presenation of King Kong vs. Godzilla? I notice several different cases over the years. I know none have the Japanese version. But since I'm now going a little easier on the U.S. cut are there any recommendations.