For lack of a better way to put it, we're talking about films that you wouldn't necessarily call good per se, but you can't help but find it interesting (story that had potential, interesting ideas within the lame story, a good performance or two, maybe a terrible film done by a director whose work you usually love, etc).
I'm not even sure I can pinpoint why, but as a kid watching Mst3k, I was always fascinated by "Soultaker (1990)", to where I got into the film just as much as I did the riffing. Maybe it's just because of the concept of death being dealt with or something corny like that, or I just have horrible taste, but I can see this being something genuinely unique in better hands.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tXBczrkahM
The Final Sacrifice: I wish I could see it all, any version is OK, even the MST3K version. :teddyr:
Quote from: Kaseykockroach on November 25, 2011, 03:16:06 AM
For lack of a better way to put it, we're talking about films that you wouldn't necessarily call good per se, but you can't help but find it interesting (story that had potential, interesting ideas within the lame story, a good performance or two, maybe a terrible film done by a director whose work you usually love, etc).
I'm not even sure I can pinpoint why, but as a kid watching Mst3k, I was always fascinated by "Soultaker (1990)", to where I got into the film just as much as I did the riffing. Maybe it's just because of the concept of death being dealt with or something corny like that, or I just have horrible taste, but I can see this being something genuinely unique in better hands.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tXBczrkahM
I love Soul Taker. This is because of MST3K. I loved is so much I tracked down a VHS copy of it. Not easy. I like because of the concept of death and then it has an Esteve and the might Mr. Chin (Robert Z'Dar).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWaLfYTgKLc
Here is a short clip of scenes someone put together of the MST3K'ed version.
Good start.
Later,
John
Quote from: Trevor on November 25, 2011, 07:30:04 AM
The Final Sacrifice: I wish I could see it all, any version is OK, even the MST3K version. :teddyr:
I am very fascinated by this one too. Again because of MST3K :cheers:. Again I had to track this one down too. Found it and again it was not easy. This movie has been list under different names.
Final Sacrifice and Quest for the Lost City the two easiest names to find. The cover work for the Quest for the Lost City has nothing to do with the actual movie. Rowzdower is a buff guy, with a ripped shirt, muscular arms, carring a hunting riffle and looks very confident. Troy looks like a young Baldwin brother and looks like a very confident fit twenty something carrying a gigacounter (???). There there is a floating head that looks like Kevin Sorbo. There is a sword that is floating too.
This is a great cheesy movie. I like both the MST3K'ed version and the full movie. You can't go wrong with either.
(http://content7.flixster.com/movie/11/14/23/11142389_pro.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04_YZ6w3-iQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cN8RgFYrQg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxHCsFmwubs&feature=related
If you can't find a copy of the movie let me know. I could probably make a copy for you.
Have fun watching.
Later,
John
Another movie is R.O.T.O.R..
I saw this in Hastings for sale. Loved the cover and bought it. The over has a cyborg with a BIG gun in a post appotolipic world. The movie differs from the cover work some.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJV3qFsaozE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHZQnpK_mgY&feature=related
(http://cloudfront.dailybooth.com/13/pictures/large/ac4420cb109706f21ba24437b0c9a967_20510013.jpg)
Later,
John
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULbEawZdXBM
Truth Or Dare: A Critical Madness
Not a "good" movie exactly, but a movie that me and my friends can't seem to get enough of.
Luigi Cozzi's "Starcrash" for me. I stumbled across that movie on Sunday afternoon TV sometime in the '80s (I guess I was around 14 years old at the time) and though I only saw it once, it haunted my dreams for nearly a quarter century. (What red blooded American boy could possibly forget Stella Star and her leather space bikini?)
Last year Shout Factory released it on DVD as part of the Roger Corman Classics series and I had to snap one up. I watched the movie and then geeked out on every bit of the hours and hours of bonus features and commentaries, which I rarely, if ever, do. I guess I was just so happy that someone else besides me even remembered that movie.
MANOS: THE HANDS OF FATE: It's terrible, of course, and not even funny in a bad movie way---but the bad-dream like atmosphere makes it watchable and sort of fascinating.
THEY SAVED HITLER'S BRAIN: Another terrible, terrible movie; sometimes I've had fun watching, sometimes I've hated watching it, but after reviewing it twice I know it inside and out.
Any bad by most peoples standards horror film from Italy does this too me.
The BRAIN THAT WOULDNT DIE
I find this film endlessly fasicnating.
Endless.
I first saw it when I was a kid.
Its like drugs-I watch it at least once a month.
at least!!!!
Sometimes more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUnxneoYdZ4
Another-COMBAT SHOCK
f**ked up movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNDhWYQYuSs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRbUSIRV6i4
Quote from: voltron on November 25, 2011, 03:51:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULbEawZdXBM
Truth Or Dare: A Critical Madness
Not a "good" movie exactly, but a movie that me and my friends can't seem to get enough of.
I LOVE this movie!
By the same director-try KILLING SPREE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3c1RNzs5RU
Quote from: RCMerchant on November 26, 2011, 07:21:34 AM
Quote from: voltron on November 25, 2011, 03:51:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULbEawZdXBM
Truth Or Dare: A Critical Madness
Not a "good" movie exactly, but a movie that me and my friends can't seem to get enough of.
I LOVE this movie!
By the same director-try KILLING SPREE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3c1RNzs5RU
Tim Ritter - GENIUS!
What did you think of the TOD sequels, RC?
^There are sequels???? :buggedout:
MUST....SEE...!
I was always drawn to the 1966 the BLACK CAT
Mostly for this scene...
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l79/RCMerchant/2464882399_5d235d7472-1.jpg)
The "films" of Coleman Francis - they're like, thisclose to being genuine art house.
THE ROOM - poor Tommy Wiseau, tried so hard and failed so specatacularly.
I was kind of intrigued by The Guyver flicks as a kid. I couldn't tell you why, exactly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELsDc8sAskQ
The Room, Troll 2, The Final Sacrifice, The Creeping Terror
I guess a film that fascinated me most was The Devil in Miss Jones 3: A New Beginning. I was fascinated with how kinky a porn set in hell could be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRJOzgKJyCg
Quote from: ChaosTheory on November 27, 2011, 03:33:42 PM
The "films" of Coleman Francis - they're like, thisclose to being genuine art house.
Ooh, good one. I agree.
"Mesa of Lost Women"
Some people think this movie is weird because it is so "bad," but when I watch it I can't help thinking the movie was made that way on purpose, kind of like a David Lynch film.
I have a feeling that is probably the case.
Quote from: RCMerchant on November 27, 2011, 07:24:10 AM
^There are sequels???? :buggedout:
MUST....SEE...!
Yeah man, there are sequels! One is called Wicked Games and the other is Screaming For Sanity (I think). I thought they were pretty cool, but if you ask me, they don't top the original.
Quote from: RCMerchant on November 26, 2011, 01:04:09 AM
The BRAIN THAT WOULDNT DIE
I find this film endlessly fasicnating.
Endless.
I first saw it when I was a kid.
Its like drugs-I watch it at least once a month.
at least!!!!
Sometimes more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUnxneoYdZ4
One more fascinating thing about that movie. Jan in the Pan was married to this guy in real life:
(http://www.66batman.com/yabbfiles/Attachments/Charlie_Farquharson.jpg)
Time for a little controversy, a film that fascinates me is The Piano. Lots of potential in that film to be something truly deep and interesting. It has good acting... 90% of the time at least, good setup, great techincal effects; it just drops the ball immensely on the romance angle (which this movie is) and on the characters. So much potential, yet it just fails.
There are certain films that I definitely cannot explain why I like to watch them so much.
Robot Jox (1990): Now, I haven't seen this film in years, but any time it's ever made a run on cable, I can't keep myself from watching it. It's such grand cheese. It's 1990, the Soviet Union is crumbling, and this movie still has that mid-80's Soviet "super-power" vibe to it. Plus it's got gigantic robots fighting each other, before CGI. Dig it.
Parents (1989): This film comes up here once in a while. This movie does fascinate me. It's such a creepy film, with what might be Randy Quaid's most overlooked performance. He just oozes creepiness in this movie. I think it might be his performance alone that makes this movie so fascinating to me.
Alice (1988): Jan Svankmajer's first attempt at a full-length feature. This surrealist, nightmarish adaptation of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland combines live action and stop-motion animation. Svankmajer uses simple everyday objects to produce bizarre visuals. The Caterpillar sits atop a screw rather than a mushroom. The "creatures" of Wonderland are filled with sawdust, which is their "blood." Many of the visuals are at once fascinating and disturbing, but many times in more subtle ways than once might expect from a stop-motion animated Wonderland.
Quote from: Flick James on November 28, 2011, 11:35:38 AM
Robot Jox (1990): Now, I haven't seen this film in years, but any time it's ever made a run on cable, I can't keep myself from watching it. It's such grand cheese. It's 1990, the Soviet Union is crumbling, and this movie still has that mid-80's Soviet "super-power" vibe to it. Plus it's got gigantic robots fighting each other, before CGI. Dig it.
I just watched that in last couple of months. It's one of those movies that takes me back to the time and place I saw it. Strongly associated with the years just after high school for me.
And Gary Graham is one of those actors who seemed like he was going places, but just kind of vanished off the radar in the last 20 years. Him and what's-her-name - Mrs. Tibbs.
Quote from: Flick James on November 28, 2011, 11:35:38 AM
There are certain films that I definitely cannot explain why I like to watch them so much.
Alice (1988): Jan Svankmajer's first attempt at a full-length feature. This surrealist, nightmarish adaptation of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland combines live action and stop-motion animation. Svankmajer uses simple everyday objects to produce bizarre visuals. The Caterpillar sits atop a screw rather than a mushroom. The "creatures" of Wonderland are filled with sawdust, which is their "blood." Many of the visuals are at once fascinating and disturbing, but many times in more subtle ways than once might expect from a stop-motion animated Wonderland.
You actually explained it pretty well!
Quote from: Rev. Powell on November 28, 2011, 01:56:24 PM
Quote from: Flick James on November 28, 2011, 11:35:38 AM
There are certain films that I definitely cannot explain why I like to watch them so much.
Alice (1988): Jan Svankmajer's first attempt at a full-length feature. This surrealist, nightmarish adaptation of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland combines live action and stop-motion animation. Svankmajer uses simple everyday objects to produce bizarre visuals. The Caterpillar sits atop a screw rather than a mushroom. The "creatures" of Wonderland are filled with sawdust, which is their "blood." Many of the visuals are at once fascinating and disturbing, but many times in more subtle ways than once might expect from a stop-motion animated Wonderland.
You actually explained it pretty well!
We all need a self-esteem boost from time to time. Thanks. :wink:
The Entity comes to mind. I'm sure there are more, I'll get back to you on it.
Quote from: Flick James on November 28, 2011, 11:35:38 AM
There are certain films that I definitely cannot explain why I like to watch them so much.
Robot Jox (1990): Now, I haven't seen this film in years, but any time it's ever made a run on cable, I can't keep myself from watching it. It's such grand cheese. It's 1990, the Soviet Union is crumbling, and this movie still has that mid-80's Soviet "super-power" vibe to it. Plus it's got gigantic robots fighting each other, before CGI. Dig it.
I love that movie and recently bought it on DVD! I particularly dig the old school special FX (miniatures, baby!).
The funny thing is that, if memory serves, the whole "Soviets Vs. U.S." undercurrent in the film was already obsolete by the time the film hit theatres back in the day. Apparently Empire Pictures went bankrupt before it could be released and the film sat on a shelf for a year or two before another studio (MGM? I can't remember) picked it up. In the interim, Communism was falling apart all over the world and wasn't quite as "super" anymore.
I was obsessed with Troll 2.
Troll 2 was such a beautiful anomaly for me. The movie wasn't just awful, it was awful in such a bizarre way that I could not understand how it was made.
I pictured Troll 2 as being made by aliens who had no understanding of humanity. Sure it was incompetent, but it was so much so that I could not picture anybody ever making this movie and expecting results.
Now I've seen "Best Worst Movie", which is a great documentary, but I'll always be mad that it made sense of one of the most bizarre, terrible movies I have ever seen.
I'm fascinate how 1977 Star Wars pulled off a 10 million dollar budget and a billion times better then Phantom Menace...
I'm also fascinated with Deathsport (1978)... Someday there should be a movie based upon the making of that film... from my understanding the filming was like the Peanuts Christmas special and Charlie Brown was missing... Not to mention David Carradine punches a director in the nose because he [the director] was screaming at Claudia Jennings [because she didnt know how to ride a motorcycle or was it a horse]
Good stuff... :)
Oversexed Rugsuckers from Mars.
The Beast of Yucca Flats
Teenagers From Outer Space
Wild Guitar
Carnival Rock
The Undead (1957)
The Abominable Snowman (1957)
Quatermass and the Pit (1967)
These Are the Damned
Teenage Caveman
Targets
Impact (1949)
They Made Me A Criminal
Phantom of the Paradise
V For Vendetta
Nightmare Alley
Quicksand
Soylent Green
12 Monkeys
I find all these fascinate me in some way or another and some surprisingly so.
Quote from: voltron on November 25, 2011, 03:51:11 PM
Truth Or Dare: A Critical Madness
Not a "good" movie exactly, but a movie that me and my friends can't seem to get enough of.
I know the guy who plays Guard #2 in this film. I kid you not. Also this film is part of a series FYI.
I find myself fascinated by anything made by Rene Cardona jr as well as such movies as The Night Evelyn Came Out Of The Grave
Ernest Goes to Jail
Jim Varney in general
Lucio Fulci's classics:
House by the Cemetery
(http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm470/kdaniels123/sleeve_3171.jpg)
and
The Beyond
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af344/superheromarket/beyondterror_hd.jpg)
Phase IV
I can't help but to be fascinated by the scenes that feature the ants.