I grew up watching the old Bugs ,Daffy and Porky Pig cartoons.
I think they are some of the most BEST films ever put out by Warner studios.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxBZVulaxs8&feature=related
I need a whole video of this stuff that lasts for hours.
Id be in love.
Bugs was the MAD magazine of his day.
You should seek out Looney Tunes Golden Collection. It's quite a few volumes. I don't have any, but I've been thinking of starting to collect them. From what I can see, it is about as complete a collection of all the classics, unedited, as you're likely to find.
I also love the one you posted. The 50's ones are great, but the 40's ones done by Robert Clampett were so surreal and whimsical. This one, "Book Revue", my favorite of the Clampett episodes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz9HLay42l8
Quote from: Flick James on April 21, 2012, 06:06:47 PM
You should seek out Looney Tunes Golden Collection. It's quite a few volumes. I don't have any, but I've been thinking of starting to collect them. From what I can see, it is about as complete a collection of all the classics, unedited, as you're likely to find.
I will! I need to!
I miss waking up on Saterday morn and watching Bugs untill noon-then they would play s**t-untill 3 oclock-and play crappy old movies-on uhf channel 28.
And-at 11:30-Double Creature Feature came on! Right after the HONEYMOONERS rerun was done.
Dam-I miss uhf tv .
Quote from: RCMerchant on April 21, 2012, 06:22:34 PM
Quote from: Flick James on April 21, 2012, 06:06:47 PM
You should seek out Looney Tunes Golden Collection. It's quite a few volumes. I don't have any, but I've been thinking of starting to collect them. From what I can see, it is about as complete a collection of all the classics, unedited, as you're likely to find.
I will! I need to!
I miss waking up on Saterday morn and watching Bugs untill noon-then they would play s**t-untill 3 oclock-and play crappy old movies-on uhf channel 28.
And-at 11:30-Double Creature Feature came on! Right after the HONEYMOONERS rerun was done.
Dam-I miss uhf tv .
The wikipedia articles offers a good run-down of the series:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looney_Tunes_Golden_Collection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looney_Tunes_Golden_Collection)
Quote from: Flick James on April 21, 2012, 06:19:49 PM
I also love the one you posted. The 50's ones are great, but the 40's ones done by Robert Clampett were so surreal and whimsical. This one, "Book Revue", my favorite of the Clampett episodes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz9HLay42l8
Thats a wonderful clip.
Dam-I sure miss 'em.
Ol' Bugs and Daffy-Daffy was REALLY insane.
He f**ked with Porky so bad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8epkIn_tgI
Quote from: Flick James on April 21, 2012, 06:19:49 PM
I also love the one you posted. The 50's ones are great, but the 40's ones done by Robert Clampett were so surreal and whimsical. This one, "Book Revue", my favorite of the Clampett episodes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz9HLay42l8
Pretty damed great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7KPpfTr6PE
Bugs Bunny is everything right with America.
Mickey Mouse is everything wrong with it.
Bugs Bunny....Elmer Fudd...Daffy Duck....classics! This one always cracks me up...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmvuAn3mz5E
Quote from: Kaseykockroach on April 21, 2012, 10:12:16 PM
Bugs Bunny is everything right with America.
Mickey Mouse is everything wrong with it.
Interesting. I don't entirely agree, but I do think I know where you're coming from, so I'll give you some karma.
I'm not a Disney hater (save almost everything done after the early 60's), but it's more what Mickey represents compared to what Bugs represents for us all. :P
The really early Daffy Duck stuff is the best. and the Popeye b & w ones where he mumbles the whole time.
Bugs Bunny stuff is alright, but I just love Daffy Duck more. He had my favorite of all the Looney Tunes shorts: Duck Amuck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH6i2Z6mTRE
Quote from: Kaseykockroach on April 24, 2012, 02:51:32 AM
I'm not a Disney hater (save almost everything done after the early 60's), but it's more what Mickey represents compared to what Bugs represents for us all. :P
That's pretty much what I thought you meant, hence the karma. I don't hate Mickey either, but if I had to vote between Mickey and Bugs as an American spokes-toon, Bugs would certainly get mine.
Quote from: Flick James on April 24, 2012, 09:23:14 AM
Quote from: Kaseykockroach on April 24, 2012, 02:51:32 AM
I'm not a Disney hater (save almost everything done after the early 60's), but it's more what Mickey represents compared to what Bugs represents for us all. :P
That's pretty much what I thought you meant, hence the karma. I don't hate Mickey either, but if I had to vote between Mickey and Bugs as an American spokes-toon, Bugs would certainly get mine.
lol.. OK, Now, I'm saying wait, what..?
Bugs is our "every man" type....Mickey,and I like Mickey,is the "Happy Go Lucky" one. Some days I definitely feel more like Bugs. :smile:
I grew up on Bugs and the Looney Tunes gang and to me they still represent the Gold Standard of cartoon comedy.
Quote from: Frank81 on April 24, 2012, 01:28:00 PM
Quote from: Flick James on April 24, 2012, 09:23:14 AM
Quote from: Kaseykockroach on April 24, 2012, 02:51:32 AM
I'm not a Disney hater (save almost everything done after the early 60's), but it's more what Mickey represents compared to what Bugs represents for us all. :P
That's pretty much what I thought you meant, hence the karma. I don't hate Mickey either, but if I had to vote between Mickey and Bugs as an American spokes-toon, Bugs would certainly get mine.
lol.. OK, Now, I'm saying wait, what..?
Which part?
Another amazing Daffy episode from the 40's. Daffy toons from the 40's were quite different than those from the 50's where he was the target of Bugs. This one is not a well-known one, which is surprising considering how hilarious it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ayIyC2HQUk
Quote from: Flick James on April 21, 2012, 06:06:47 PM
You should seek out Looney Tunes Golden Collection. It's quite a few volumes. I don't have any, but I've been thinking of starting to collect them. From what I can see, it is about as complete a collection of all the classics, unedited, as you're likely to find.
The Golden Collection sets are fantastic! While they haven't even come close to getting them all out there yet, the ones that they've released look the best that they have (or at least that I've seen) and the are loaded down with special features. I also like that, while indiviidual discs within the sets are sometimes devoted to a single character or pairing, each overall set provides a pretty wide variety. Now, I think they're also putting them out on blu ray...
Quote from: Flick James on April 26, 2012, 09:12:06 AM
Another amazing Daffy episode from the 40's. Daffy toons from the 40's were quite different than those from the 50's where he was the target of Bugs. This one is not a well-known one, which is surprising considering how hilarious it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ayIyC2HQUk
I've always loved the song he sings at the start of that. I haven't watched that episode in at least a decade and I can still remember the words to it.
Quote from: Chainsaw midget on April 26, 2012, 12:03:21 PM
Quote from: Flick James on April 26, 2012, 09:12:06 AM
Another amazing Daffy episode from the 40's. Daffy toons from the 40's were quite different than those from the 50's where he was the target of Bugs. This one is not a well-known one, which is surprising considering how hilarious it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ayIyC2HQUk
I've always loved the song he sings at the start of that. I haven't watched that episode in at least a decade and I can still remember the words to it.
I know. Me too. :thumbup:
I grew up on Looney Tunes. Daffy Duck is my favorite of them all. Marvin the Martian is up there too.
Why didn't Pete Puma not have more than one appearance?
He made only one appearance in the original shorts-1952-after that-no more. Too bad. He was hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tcmbg8-Zow&feature=related
That's a great one. WB would try out certain characters and some would stick and some wouldn't. It's not unlike Beaky Buzzard who appeared in a few:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CABfaw8WypQ
or Charlie Dog:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULDmvBaDpmM
Quote from: RCMerchant on April 27, 2012, 04:38:54 AM
Why didn't Pete Puma not have more than one appearance?
He made only one appearance in the original shorts-1952-after that-no more. Too bad. He was hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tcmbg8-Zow&feature=related
Actually, what's funny too is that, until you said it, I assumed he was definitely in quite a few of the shorts. I guess that goes to show the impression that he made!
Quote from: Flick James on April 24, 2012, 07:25:43 PM
Quote from: Frank81 on April 24, 2012, 01:28:00 PM
Quote from: Flick James on April 24, 2012, 09:23:14 AM
Quote from: Kaseykockroach on April 24, 2012, 02:51:32 AM
I'm not a Disney hater (save almost everything done after the early 60's), but it's more what Mickey represents compared to what Bugs represents for us all. :P
That's pretty much what I thought you meant, hence the karma. I don't hate Mickey either, but if I had to vote between Mickey and Bugs as an American spokes-toon, Bugs would certainly get mine.
lol.. OK, Now, I'm saying wait, what..?
Which part?
Well, Bugs is a wise guy/teenager, whereas, Mickey is child- like/kid, so I don't see how the two can be compared?
Bugs, at least in the hands of Chuck Jones, Tex Avery, Friz Freleng, Frank Tashlin, Bob Clampett and the like, is a real living, breathing character.
Mickey was always a corporate mascot from the very beginning. At best, a framing device for funnier and more interesting characters.
Quote from: Kaseykockroach on April 30, 2012, 11:56:01 AM
Bugs, at least in the hands of Chuck Jones, Tex Avery, Friz Freleng, Frank Tashlin, Bob Clampett and the like, is a real living, breathing character.
Mickey was always a corporate mascot from the very beginning. At best, a framing device for funnier and more interesting characters.
Coporate mascot? :question: Walt Disney's creations early on were not part of any corporate scheme, but, rather an attempt to break away from the then corporate control of Universal, Walt Disney and I think the name was Ub Werks? In any event, Bugs has long ago become a corporate mascot selling everything from War Bonds to kids sneakers
Quote from: Kaseykockroach on April 30, 2012, 11:56:01 AM
Bugs, at least in the hands of Chuck Jones, Tex Avery, Friz Freleng, Frank Tashlin, Bob Clampett and the like, is a real living, breathing character.
Mickey was always a corporate mascot from the very beginning. At best, a framing device for funnier and more interesting characters.
Disney was kindof forced into using mickey as a mascot. He wanted to make cartoons that didn't star Mickey (like
The Skeleton Dance), but no one would buy them. To get people to buy them he added "Mickey Mouse presents" to the title card.
Mickey had more personality in his early shorts. Once he became popular they toned it down to avoid offending people.
The early black-and-white shorts borrow from Otto Messmer's Felix, with none of the imagination. The character never had much in the way of personality. By and large, handsome and charming drawing/movement was about all the series had in its favor. Animation by masters Fred Moore, Les Clark, Ken Muse and the like will always remain useful in analyzing bygone principles of the artform.
That doesn't mean he wasn't featured in some of the most wonderful cartoons ever made, of course.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBBJ1_KHHKE
Which is probably why nobody bought it until they added sound. :wink:
Quote from: Kaseykockroach on April 30, 2012, 12:40:41 PM
The early black-and-white shorts borrow from Otto Messmer's Felix, with none of the imagination. The character never had much in the way of personality. By and large, handsome and charming drawing/movement was about all the series had in its favor. Animation by masters Fred Moore, Les Clark, Ken Muse and the like will always remain useful in analyzing bygone principles of the artform.
That doesn't mean he wasn't featured in some of the most wonderful cartoons ever made, of course.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBBJ1_KHHKE
I get it the Cat was chased away by the Mouse. :teddyr:
Mickey was deemed an Oswald rip-off until they added sound to Steamboat Willie.
Quote from: Kaseykockroach on April 30, 2012, 12:51:35 PM
Mickey was deemed an Oswald rip-off until they added sound to Steamboat Willie.
Yes, Oswald, that was the corporate mascots name, Disney left with that Werks guy to create Mickey. In any event, most creations build on something that was before it.
Mickey was originally a bit more of an everyman type character and a bit more adventurous, but most of those traits got passed on to Donald and Goofy, leaving Mickey to play the straight man of the group.
Bugs was always the wiseguy. If he's not causing trouble himself, he's getting into it. He's a far more active character as opposed to Mickey's more passive one. Disney cartoons also tend to follow logic more closely while Looney Toones embrace the wacky and unpredictable side more. You're far less likely to see Micky Mouse pull an entire car out of his pocket and ride away in it than you are to see Bugs do it.
Quote from: Chainsaw midget on April 30, 2012, 01:00:30 PM
Mickey was originally a bit more of an everyman type character and a bit more adventurous, but most of those traits got passed on to Donald and Goofy, leaving Mickey to play the straight man of the group.
Bugs was always the wiseguy. If he's not causing trouble himself, he's getting into it. He's a far more active character as opposed to Mickey's more passive one. Disney cartoons also tend to follow logic more closely while Looney Toones embrace the wacky and unpredictable side more. You're far less likely to see Micky Mouse pull an entire car out of his pocket and ride away in it than you are to see Bugs do it.
True, also, let's face it, cartoons were once considered mostly for kids and pre-teens. I think everyone from Walt to Hanna-Babera would be shocked at what passes for cartoons these days, like Family Guy and even The Simpsons.
Quote from: Frank81 on April 30, 2012, 01:03:08 PM
Quote from: Chainsaw midget on April 30, 2012, 01:00:30 PM
Mickey was originally a bit more of an everyman type character and a bit more adventurous, but most of those traits got passed on to Donald and Goofy, leaving Mickey to play the straight man of the group.
Bugs was always the wiseguy. If he's not causing trouble himself, he's getting into it. He's a far more active character as opposed to Mickey's more passive one. Disney cartoons also tend to follow logic more closely while Looney Toones embrace the wacky and unpredictable side more. You're far less likely to see Micky Mouse pull an entire car out of his pocket and ride away in it than you are to see Bugs do it.
True, also, let's face it, cartoons were once considered mostly for kids and pre-teens. I think everyone from Walt to Hanna-Babera would be shocked at what passes for cartoons these days, like Family Guy and even The Simpsons.
Are you sure?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvdqAMs89M0
(No, it's not a Disney cartoon; it was made by Van Bueren, who didn't care much for copyrights. :wink:)
The other way around, actually. Cartoons were considered for adults until the 50's when animation began being produced for television. It's just that adults were generally more sophisticated back in the day, so no one cared to see gore, swearing and such. And even then, you have this being produced for the armed forces.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WibqlcBBXnE
The only golden age-era cartoons that were considered purely for children were Casper and Little Audrey.
Quote from: Kaseykockroach on April 30, 2012, 01:26:39 PM
The other way around, actually. Cartoons were considered for adults until the 50's when animation began being produced for television. It's just that adults were generally more sophisticated back in the day, so no one cared to see gore, swearing and such. And even then, you have this being produced for the armed forces.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WibqlcBBXnE
The only golden age-era cartoons that were considered purely for children were Casper and Little Audrey.
I like Casper, it's about a dead kid, right? :teddyr:
When I was in the military about ten years back, they were still using Goofy cartoons in the divers ed classes they taught.
Haredevil Hare...Bugs Bunny and Marvin the Martian.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yTJcYQY6Vw
Also, I always particularly liked these two quick scenes from Roger Rabbit:
Mickey and Bugs, together on screen. As a young kid seeing this, my mind exploded with joy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKjUtTC3e0Y
Although, this was better because I'm a bigger fan of Daffy and Donald.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv24TJ8iXcs&feature=related
I have one of the "Golden Collection" volumes. I also recently bought "Saturday Morning Cartoons of the 1970's Vol. 2," which features an episode of the old "Bugs Bunny/ Roadrunner" Show with the themes and bumpers. That was a nice surprise, since most repackaged shows don't get the DVD treatment. But this was a fixture on CBS for about fifteen years or more, so it's nice to see at least one episode again in this format.
Mickey Mouse.
Sheesh.
Never liked Mickey-even as a little kid.
He was like the kid who never got in trouble-brought a teacher an apple. A suck-ass.
Bugs-he was a rebel! Didn't give a rat's ass. Or in this case-a mouse's ass.
Heck-Bug's didn't have to even lift a finger-like the mutant's in BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES-he made his enemies fight each other.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtkflEaeGjo&feature=related