No, I haven't seen it - the South African release is only next month - but I am putting it here so long. I know a guy from South Africa directed it :cheers: and that Johnny Knoxville supplies Leonardo's voice :cheers: but I've seen the trailers and this is my reaction thus far:
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I hope I will be proved wrong but I'm scared. :buggedout:
Just hide in your shell until the danger passes.
Quote from: Javakoala on August 08, 2014, 09:30:08 PM
Just hide in your shell until the danger passes.
:teddyr: :teddyr:
And the IMDB says it made over $65 million on its' opening weekend...... oy..... :buggedout: :buggedout:
I just got internet working in my "Michael Bay Rage Bunker".
I go in here to protect myself from the riots that proceed after the release of Michael Bay's newest bastardization of classic '80s cartoons.
And no there's not enough room for any of you.
Bay is only the producer.
I'll tell you this much...I thoroughly enjoyed it and I'm a huge TMNT fan and I loathe Michael Bay affiliated films.
Quote from: HappyGilmore on August 11, 2014, 08:38:20 PM
Bay is only the producer.
I'll tell you this much...I thoroughly enjoyed it and I'm a huge TMNT fan and I loathe Michael Bay affiliated films.
Based on your recommendation, I will go see it next month. I might even splurge on a 3D ticket. :teddyr:
I'll say this, the first half hour or so kind of drags, but it definitely picks up for the middle and end.
This scene here has no official spoilers, but it's just a fun segment: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Official Movie CLIP - The Elevator (2014) - Ninja Turtle Movie HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTcy51kHDTM#ws)
I might be biased since I am a fan of the turtles since I was a child, but I kinda liked this movie. The plot is unoriginal, but I liked the characterization (not the aspect too much) of the turtles; I liked Megan Fox as April (heck, she is a sex bomb in the '80 series, she still is :) ); and overall I liked there are no joke characters... even Vernon has his moments! It also helped that the fight scenes were from OK to good.
The only complain... Leo says nothing in the "tell a secret scene".
1stly i liked this more than i thought i would. i don't hate Megan Fox like many people seem to, i can take her or leave her pretty much. but i do think she was miscast in this. she wasn't as bad as people say she was, there are parts in it where she's fine and than there's parts where she isn't. i also hate with a passion how the turtles look they are too BIG for one and they look like crap.
and having Shredder having a lousy entrance for one and turning him into a big shredder wasn't needed. some people say where it's cause it's the size of the turtles and they'd yeah be right no doubt but they didn't need to make them as big as a freaking semi. ok maybe not a semi truck but you get my point i'm sure. they should also should have left out the countless shaky cam's scenes mainly because i freaking HATE shaky cam in any film whatsoever.
all it does is make me dizzy and give me a headache
Quote from: pennywise37 on May 10, 2015, 09:41:38 PMand having Shredder having a lousy entrance for one and turning him into a big shredder wasn't needed.
Seriously? Are you talking of the scene where the Shredder beats down a goon starting from a sitting position with the hands tied under his back? And says something like: "The mission failed because your men are weak"?
I guess I am in the polar opposite! I loved that scene; when I see it I think: "One of the best bad guy intro ever!"
I thought it was better than I feared but overall the plot points were a bit too paper thin for my liking. The original had a nicer emotional core and better stakes for the characters. In the new one it's nice that April is a bit more connected to the turtles but that's more in the realm of 'fun coincidence' as they kind of dump the revelation on without much build up so it seemed a bit forced.
But it wasn't horrible! Which is more than I can say about Transformers.
some people hated that April was the one that was named them and with the big connection. that really didn't bother me.
the (1990) is a far far far better film. i saw that opening day back than and i think it still holds up. i don't think this one will to be honest. i think Shredder was not only written better in the original version but also played better as well.
them making him a super shredder i think was done better and looked better in the secret of the ooze too. call me old fashion i don't care but shredder is a guy who only took the ooze as it's called in the 2nd film when he had no choice.
in short it's been done before pretty much. now if they would have had Krang in the film doing that i prolly would have liked that better. something they also didn't do is they gave a good storyline for Ralph and i'm grateful for that, they gave him a personality but the rest of the guys not so much. Donnie's glasses doesn't bother me like it does other people though.
them also adding some of the 80's cartoon in it i liked actually, i never expected to see Vern in any TMNT film at all.
and he wasn't a weasel like he is in the cartoon but a likable guy who yes is a dork but a guy that you could in some way root for. so there are some things about the film i do like. the film did need a better script though
I am happy to see I am not alone in kinda liking this movie. However I agree some points are indeed poor, so now I will speak about the bad points in my opinion:
- the origins of the turtle story, learn ninjatsu from a book? Alone? Seriously?
- in one scene three turtles are prisoners and Shredder is beating Raphael and... Shredder disappears. What is going on? It is somewhat implied that he needed to to something fast to be in the tower so quickly (the turtles needs quite some time to reach him later) and left middle fight. But still the scene looks badly cut.
- as I mentioned, it is somewhat a pity that "tell a secret scene" is so Raphael-centric. Raphael already had his moments I was hoping more Leo, Don or Mike.
- the turtles being totally bulletproof. I'd find fine if the shell or the skeleton is. But completely is too much as it removes the tension. Once you understand that the turtles essentially cannot be hurt the fight scenes with the goons obviously become totally one sided. I can understand why the choice though.
- the motivations are somewhat thin: Erik -> money; Shredder -> Power maybe? How?
However, those are actually fairly minor points.
And just for the lulz, here how'd I fix it.
- Splinter could be a janitor or a low workman of the lab that get bitten by an experiment rat after the fire and faints for the smokes. April arrives, rescue him and the turtles. He decides to take care of the turtles, but transforms in a rat and so... decides to go in the sewers. April simply thinks he went on with his life. On the sewers also the turtles transforms in humans. The scene continues with Splinter worrying about how to bring up those mutants and find the book and the way. In fact he was a MMA/Muay Thai/Vale Tudo/Brasilian Wrestling/Something professional, but becoming older he lost the touch. However with the book and his previous experience he teaches the turtles. [Extra points, we might have mutant rats somewhere for sequels!]
- About the second point, it cannot be fixed in the movie. But to make the strange scene very interesting in the sequel this can happen: Shredder is in prison, but he is in possession of alien technology (or he is an Utrom like in the 2003 cartoon). He somehow manage to keep a teleporter with him, but it requires really precise timings. He uses it to escape from the prison and indirectly implies why he had to leave the fight, to go to the tower.
- About the tell a secret, well... just change the dialogues in something more meaningful for Leo, Don, and Mike.
- Showing that the shell is indeed bullet proof, but the "soft-spot" aren't. To fix, just change the fight scenes a little bit.
- Motivations, probably just some extra dialogues. Overall on the Shredder side, I can understand Erik desire for money (even if he does appear quite rich already) but Shredder motivations are totally unclear. It possible to fix in the sequel, quite easily if he is indeed an alien.
yeah i agree a LOT of it did need fixing and i do agree on them being bulletproof i will say that they had i think it was Mikey? mentioning it in the film, they are turtles not androids hence the T-10000 for example
even though there is plenty they did mess up in the film i also did enjoy it a lot more than i thought i would, the CGI film though is i think a far far better film but that's just my own opinion
Upon rewatchings of this...I really enjoy it.
Recently it's been announced that Judith Hoag, who played April in the 1990 live action TMNT, will be in this in some capacity, plus they've cast Casey Jones as well as announced that Bebop and Rocksteady will FINALLY make their big-screen debut in the sequel.
Also rumored is Baxter Stockman, the fly/human hybrid. Baxter had a brief scene in 2014's TMNT. So. :teddyr:
have you seen what Judith Hoag looks like now? she is hot as hell now. funny enough that she was i believe in her 20's when she did the 1st film 25 years ago. and her looks have vastly improved and so as her acting as well.
though my favorite April is "Paige Turco' she was hot than and still is. i still to this day have a thing for her. great actress too. i love her in American Gothic a vastly under rated show i think as for the new TMNT film yeah i'll prolly watch that one too. i don't remember Baxter Stockman being in it but than i've only seen it once awhile back. i have been wanting to see Bebop & Rocksteady in a feature film since i was a kid. they were suppose to do that for Secret of the ooze but we
got Tokar & Razarr instead. i forget why they didn't do it. i'd also love to see Krang be in it as well. have him be in that body and yeah that would have to be CGI and for that if it's done well i wouldn't have minded cause if you put him in the 90's films it would have looked terrible i think cause the technology just wasn't there yet. and it'd be interesting if they brought Dimension X into as well. what i'd also love to see is if they brought some the characters from the Comics well
the Archie Comics i read as kid such as Man Ray and had Null has a villian he was a great villian too. it's been awhile since i last read my issues of that. and Ralph even had a Girlfriend in those comics and i forget her name right now.
but at one point they had the current turtles go into the future and you see a different bad ass turtles and they were so vastly different from the present day turtles. if anyone has read those comics or if it was just me please by all means let me know. i just don't want to be the only person here who is talking about Characters that nobody has even heard of. he he
Bebop and Rocksteady didn't get used because they were created exclusively for the show, and they would've paid a hefty fee to the studio and network for using them. So Tokka and Rahzar were created. Plus, Eastman and Laird hated Bebop and Rocksteady.
the thing with those guys is those guys i think care more about money than they do their own creations these days.
so i've pretty much lost a great deal of respect i had for them. kinda how like Disney is so afraid of losing Mickey that they keep extending the copywrite year now it's what every 75 years? i forget at the moment, cause they are so afraid someone will make a Mickey mouse cartoon even though it would only be the steam boat willie era that they'd have rights to and not the mickey mouse of today.
sorry about going off topic, my point is that from Eastman & Laird's they i don't even think even own the rights to their creation anymore. Disney as much as i hate what they stand for when it comes to copywriting. at least still owns their product. the site they used to have which is no longer around sadly used to be a great site that had all the cover art for all the archie comic's issues plus their black & White issues as well i believe. now it's just a blog that one of the guys does.
not the same thing in my book.
Quote from: pennywise37 on May 16, 2015, 10:25:57 PM
. i'd also love to see Krang be in it as well. have him be in that body and yeah that would have to be CGI and for that if it's done well i wouldn't have minded cause if you put him in the 90's films it would have looked terrible i think cause the technology just wasn't there yet. and it'd be interesting if they brought Dimension X into as well. what i'd also love to see is if they brought some the characters from the Comics well
Early versions of the script had the scientist that helped the turtles in TMNT 2 actually being one of the Krang aliens. Also the technology to do a decent looking Krang did exist at the time. When you have a chance, check out the 1980's remake of
Invaders from Mars. The lead alien is a giant living brain and gives you a good idea what a practical FX Krang would have looked like.
Quote from: pennywise37 on May 18, 2015, 08:52:30 PM
the thing with those guys is those guys i think care more about money than they do their own creations these days.
All the days, welcome to capitalism..
Quote from: pennywise37 on May 18, 2015, 08:52:30 PM
Disney is so afraid of losing Mickey that they keep extending the copywrite year now it's what every 75 years?
...and to the US.
Quote from: pennywise37 on May 18, 2015, 08:52:30 PM
the thing with those guys is those guys i think care more about money than they do their own creations these days.
so i've pretty much lost a great deal of respect i had for them. kinda how like Disney is so afraid of losing Mickey that they keep extending the copywrite year now it's what every 75 years? i forget at the moment, cause they are so afraid someone will make a Mickey mouse cartoon even though it would only be the steam boat willie era that they'd have rights to and not the mickey mouse of today.
sorry about going off topic, my point is that from Eastman & Laird's they i don't even think even own the rights to their creation anymore. Disney as much as i hate what they stand for when it comes to copywriting. at least still owns their product. the site they used to have which is no longer around sadly used to be a great site that had all the cover art for all the archie comic's issues plus their black & White issues as well i believe. now it's just a blog that one of the guys does.
not the same thing in my book.
Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird had a strained relationship at one point. They co-owned the Turtles, 50-50. In 2000, Eastman sold around 30% of his stake to Laird, making it 80-20. At which point Laird started work on the 2003 cartoon and video game series. Whatever profits there were got split 80-20. In 2009, Laird bought out the remaining 20% of Eastman's stock. In 2012, Laird sold all rights to the TMNT to Nickelodeon for reportedly around $60 Million Dollars. Part of said deal allows Laird to still make black and white comics each year. Kevin Eastman had virtually nothing to do with the deal, however Nickelodeon launched a new cartoon in 2012 and the producers of that brought Eastman on as a creative adviser, so he helps come up with ideas and stories for the show. Neither Eastman nor Laird, I believe, have anything to do with the film series, however.
Quote from: pennywise37 on May 16, 2015, 10:25:57 PM
have you seen what Judith Hoag looks like now? she is hot as hell now. funny enough that she was i believe in her 20's when she did the 1st film 25 years ago. and her looks have vastly improved and so as her acting as well.
I still have a
ginormous crush on this lady. I don't know if that's even a word, but I would faint if I met her. :smile:
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for her age she looks good i think. i think they should both have ownership of their creation and NOT Nickoleoden who's show looks freaking terrible my nephew who is 3 years old looks like he made it. and that's not a good thing. now don't get me wrong i love my nephew and i'll say this is good or that is good but he's 3. and i can't remember if i ever saw invaders from mars. i think i did but i don't remember if i ever saw the whole thing and if i have it's been years.
The new TMNT cartoon on Nick, while it looks bad, is actually pretty good on a creative level. Well written, funny, action. And it features loads of cameos by actors from the franchise's past.
i've actually never seen it before, so you aren't going to hear from me how bad it is. i do know that Corey Feldman did the voice of Slash though
Feldman was on it. Robbie Rist, who voiced Michaelangelo in the 3 TMNT flicks, voices Mondo Gecko. Rob Paulsen, who voiced Rapheal in the '80s-90s toon, voices Donatello here. Kevin Eastman, creator, is a consultant and does the occasional voice when needed.
One thing I liked was, they introduced the Punk Frogs in this show, and Jon Heder, who played Napoleon Dynamite, voiced Napoleon Bonafrog :bouncegiggle:
Quote from: HappyGilmore on May 19, 2015, 06:46:17 PM
The new TMNT cartoon on Nick, while it looks bad, is actually pretty good on a creative level. Well written, funny, action. And it features loads of cameos by actors from the franchise's past.
I personally never got this "look bad" feeling. I find the mix between 3d, anime, and comic style beautiful. And I agree about the rest.
my favorite one will always be the 80's cartoon but i actually did enjoy the reboot in (2003) i just haven't gotten around to watch the current reboot. but i'm sorry cartoons these days look like Sh*t. the animation is terrible, the CGI ones i'm leaving out cause those look fine but the ones that are still hand drawn look terrible. they look like a 3rd grader drew them.
but the animation for the 80's and the (2003) cartoon had great animation to be honest.
I'm probably the only TMNT fan who liked the third turtles film: it was the wacky humor which got me. :smile:
I know most people went like THIS when they saw it :buggedout:
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but I liked it.
About the classic three movies I pretty much agree with James Rolfe.
Here he explains using his screen persona "The Angry Game Nerd:"
http://cinemassacre.com/2007/01/25/tmnt-part-1/ (http://cinemassacre.com/2007/01/25/tmnt-part-1/)
honestly i hate that episode of his, cause i kinda like the 3rd film. it's not a favorite film of mine but when i watch each of the 3 films i watch the 1st one first and than i end with the 3rd film. i don't hate it like people seem to hate it. it has too many faults i'm not going to deny that at all. and putting them through time isn't an original idea at all.
it's been done to death i think, but taking a sword to it and cutting the VHS tape in freaking in half is i think way over stepping it. yes he was in character but there is no doubt he feels that way about the film. in fact i saw that video a few few years before i even found out about the Nerd! and it turned me off him right away. i had no idea it was a character or even a show for that matter. it was pretty much by accident that i found his nerd videos on you tube. so when i found out that he did do that video for TMNT 3 i had no clue and i had really completly forgotten about it to be honest.
I didn't hate the third, but it was kind of a step back. And I hated the suits for the turtles.
Either way, I still dig this song:
http://youtu.be/VFsTr0kGAqU (http://youtu.be/VFsTr0kGAqU)
your right the suits are terrible in it, the suits in that really crappy tv show that they did in (1997) which i tried watching once but it was so bad that i refused to watch anymore of it. those suits looked like something a little kid would make.
the voice for Splinter was terrible too cause i believe Kevin Clash didn't do the voice for it. i forget who did though