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Let's discuss which of these movies we've seen.
#99. Troll 2 - Honestly I don't think it belongs here. That movie was hilarious.
#85. Santa Clause Conquers the Martians - Not sure how this movie even came into existence. The idea sounds bad on paper.
#83. Baby Geniuses - I'm embarrassed to admit I saw this movie when I was little. I though it was bad back then, even.
#82. Simon Sez - Back before Rodman was hanging out with evil dictators THIS was his biggest lapse in judgment.
#81. Monster a-Go Go - Even MST3K didn't make this one entertaining in my opinion
#76. Battlefield Earth - John Travolta brought the ham in this one. Big budget ≠ Good movie.
#72. Santa Claus - Watching the MST3K of this with my Dad was a riot.
#71. Mitchell - Just because you were in 007 doesn't mean you can be a spy too, Joe.
#62. Titanic: The Legend Goes On... - Really? Animated Titanic movie? Okay...
#61. Santa with Muscles - Still better than anything John Cena was in... Or does.
#57. Alone in the Dark- Uwe Boll makes a movie that has nothing to do with the source material. Like the World War Z movie!
#54. Epic Movie - If I ever see Friedberg on the street I'll brain him with a car battery.
#52. Chairman of the Board - What would I do if I met Carrot Top? See #54
#49. Foodfight! - The most painful animated movie I ever sat through.
#35. Eegah - I would like to announce the Kickstarter for "Get Arch Hall Jr. Plastic Surgery".
#29. Son of the Mask - I LIKED this movie as a kid! GAAAH!!
#27. The Creeping Terror - I had a nightmare where the monster from this movie took six hours to eat me.
#22. The Pumaman - Best super hero ever. Could kick Superman's ass.
#16. House of the Dead - Uwe Boll's done it again! We need to make a sitcom about Uwe Boll.
#11. Manos: The Hands of Fate - Did you know Hans Zimmer made Torgo's theme? Of course not because it's not true!
#5. Disaster Movie - If it makes money Friedberg will make it.
#2. Birdemic: Shock and Terror - Not since James Cameron's Avatar have I seen CGI this good!
okay,let's see....i've seen #(s) 2,10,11,12,13,16,22,27,28,30,31,32,33,35,36,37,40,41,42,44,47,48,57,65,66,67,71,72,75,76,77,80,81,85,88,89,94,95,99 and 100.
i think i just scared myself!!!!
99, 90, 89, 85, 83, 81, 77, 76, 72, 71, 67, 65, 63, 57, 54, 53, 49, 42, 35, 33, 32, 31, 27, 26, 16, 11, 10, 7, 5 and 2 for me.
Why isn't Bucky Larson in the bottom 100? That's easily the worst movie I've ever seen.
octoman should be there too,lol!
There are a lot of bad movies not on that list.
Any IMDB "list" based on its own internal voting is going to be heavily biased by the input of younger audiences. There were quite a few post 2000 movies on that list I've never even heard of, and as stated, a tremendous number of older movies missing.
So, the list sort of suffers from selection bias. Yes, a lot of younger viewers have seen MANOS or BEAST OF YUCCA FLATS or whatever. But that's because there's a lot of hubbub about certain well known "bad movies."
I don't put much (okay, any) stock IMDB ratings precisely because of this. The votes are based on only a certain (skewed younger) subset of people bothering to vote for movies on IMDB, and my experience shows exactly ZERO correlation with those votes and my own personal taste/likes.
Thus a list based on such votes is unlikely to mean much to me in terms of agreeing or disagreeing with it. Or, being impressed by it as "Top This" or "Bottom That."
I've seen forty of those and MAGIC MIKE was worse than all of them.
Okay, maybe not worse than TISCWSL&BMUZ, but certainly no better.
The IMDB bottom 100 suffers from MST3K bias. If MST3K featured it people automatically vote the movie down, even though there are much worse movies out there.
I ACCUSE MY PARENTS is a perfect example. It's not great, but it's far from the worst, and there's no way it would ever have made a bottom 100 list if it hadn't been featured on the show. I count 30 entries that were on MST3K---some might deserve to be in the bottom 100 (like MONSTER A GO-GO), but the show is the only reason others have made it.
Agree with Rev. about the MST3K bias and also bob about Bucky Larson which is quite possibly the worst movie ever.
Hmm what I've seen... I kinda liked the following, some because of exploitation, some because they were truly something weird and different, some because I consider them bad movie classics:
#94: Monstrosity (1963)
#89: The Beast of Yucca Flats (1961)
#84: Santa Claus Conquers the Martians (1964)
#41: The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed-Up Zombies!!? (1964)
#35. Eegah (1962)
#33. Girl in Gold Boots (1968)
#32. Track of the Moon Beast (1976)
#31. The Wild World of Batwoman (1966)
#30. Prince of Space (1959)
#27. The Creeping Terror (1964)
#13. Invasion of the Neptune Men (1961)
#12. Space Mutiny (1988)
#11. Manos: The Hands of Fate (1966)
Didn't enjoy these as much but they did have some moments...
# 81: Monster a Go-Go (1965)
#77: Laserblast (1978)
#67: The Final Sacrifice (1990)
#57: Alone in the Dark (2005)
#7. Going Overboard (1989) ---nah, this was just horrid.
I've actually seen less of these than I was expecting but I have to say I consider most of the stuff from the Asylum and which airs on SyFy worse that anything I mentioned above...
Reading reviews at IMDb over the years I noticed that most people who watch a bad movie and found it to be somewhat entertaining still have a problem giving it a higher rating. They would say stuff like "yeah, it was hilarious etc etc but I can't give it more than 1/10 because, well, it's still a bad movie". Then you have Troll 2 which used to have a much lower rating. Over the years it has been slowly dropping down the Bottom 100 Charts as it's rating increased. People are catching up, it just takes time.
-Troll 2
I wouldn't call it the "best bad movie" by a long shot. Although it's fun to laugh at, it is still appallingly bad.
-Zaat
The only thing I remember regarding this film is that it was veerrrrrryyyy slow and boring. Like, to the point of agony...
-The Beast of Yucca Flats
Another one I've seen a billion times via MST3K and old school Sci-Fi Channel, but don't remember much of.
-Santa Claus Conquers the Martians
Is it terrible? Yeah. Is it still kind of a guilty pleasure? Also yeah...
-Demon Island
It was titled Pinata: Survival Island when I saw it. Anyway, standard monster movie with absolutely dreadful CG. The monster looked like it had been lifted from the PlayStation version of Diablo.
-Hobgoblins
I couldn't tell if this was a really bad horror film, a really good horror/comedy, or just an all around bad comedy. I giggled a few times at least.
-Leonard Part 6
I loved this as a kid, but rewatched bits and pieces of it recently. I now realize why this movie sucks. It's just too bad Bill Cosby didn't realize those around him were sycophants and that he shouldn't have listened to their advice regarding this film.
-The Creeping Terror
I really wish this movie would have turned out better. The ending was pretty cool, and the fact that they actually showed a monster devouring someone was neat as well. However, the needless narrator, the horrible pacing, and the fact that the creature looks like a turd that had been rolled in dog hair, leaves, and moldy gummy candy was more than a little off-putting.
As for the rest of the list, there are crap tons of movies I've seen bits and pieces of. There are also a few that have been on there for ages that aren't there anymore, like Anus Magillicutty.
Hey, Brother JTD is in the house: welcome! :smile: :cheers:
Quote from: JoeTheDestroyer on September 12, 2014, 02:55:14 AM
-The Creeping Terror
I really wish this movie would have turned out better. The ending was pretty cool, and the fact that they actually showed a monster devouring someone was neat as well. However, the needless narrator, the horrible pacing, and the fact that the creature looks like a turd that had been rolled in dog hair, leaves, and moldy gummy candy was more than a little off-putting.
The narrator came about because they lost most of the sound and also the sound equipment during the shoot, according to legend. They couldn't get the cast back, probably because the director is mostly insane, and post looping of dialogue was outside their budget. I do find it interesting that while a scene is being narrated that you can hear foley work for things happening on screen, like people walking or lighting a match and such.
Troll 2 - yeah it kind of holds a special place in my heart lol.
Demon Island - hey I LIKE this movie!
Battlefield Earth - I didn't think it was that terrible really.
Seven Mummies - not that much worse than a lot of other direct-to-video junk. I enjoyed it.
Merlin's Sop of Mystical Wonders - enjoyed it on MST3K
The Final Sacrifice - same as above
Hobgoblins - I should buy the DVD of this, it's a classic. I've actually sought out other films by this director lol.
Alone in the Dark - yeah it was pretty bad.
R.O.T.O.R. - seems like it was made to earn a spot on the bottom 100 list.
Boggy Creek II: And the Legend Continues - that was pretty fun actually
Girl in Gold Boots - that was awful even by MST3K standards.
Prince of Space - one of my favorite MST3K episodes.
The Creeping Terror - didn't quite make it to the end of this one. Didn't have the stamina.
House of the Dead - I thought it was pretty darned entertaining :smile:
Space Mutiny - I love this movie :thumbup:
Manos - I've never actually finished this movie. I should really try again one of these days.
Final Justice - another MST3K favorite. "Hey don't use the guest towels as toilet paper again like you did last time." :bouncegiggle:
Birdemic - only made it to the end by listening to the actor's commentary about what a screwball the director was.
I've seen 9 on the list. Because I don't watch NEW bad movies. New as in since 1990.
I guess they never seen SINGLE ROOM FURNISHED (1966)
http://www.badmovies.org/forum/index.php/topic,133439.0.html (http://www.badmovies.org/forum/index.php/topic,133439.0.html)
Wait, wait...Jack said Battlefield Earth - I didn't think it was that terrible really.- Dude...I worry for yer mind...
Quote from: Flangepart on September 12, 2014, 08:24:29 AM
Wait, wait...Jack said Battlefield Earth - I didn't think it was that terrible really.- Dude...I worry for yer mind...
While you were still learning how to SPELL YOUR NAME! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqWK85gJaxc#ws)
^ Just listen to the emoting going on there! You guys don't like that ?!?! :bouncegiggle:
Quote from: Jack on September 12, 2014, 05:10:07 PM
^ Just listen to the emoting going on there! You guys don't like that ?!?! :bouncegiggle:
Yeah...just not the way the film makers intended! :twirl:
I think it's called 'The Ed Wood' effect. :smile:
I found 19 of them that I had seen, most of them the older movies. And I completely agree with the concept that a lot of the older titles are there because of idiot hipsters voting on this stuff after watching MST3K episodes.
RC, I agree with you on the cut-off date you give. I have seen movies made after 1990, and a lot of them were not worth my time. Most stuff prior to that year, I know fairly well and enjoy greatly. If I mention a movie older than 1990 to most of the people I know, I get blank looks. Yeah, folks, let's just ignore nearly 90 years worth of cinema because your first theater experience was Home Alone or Pretty Woman.
Quote from: Javakoala on September 13, 2014, 03:32:57 AM
I found 19 of them that I had seen, most of them the older movies. And I completely agree with the concept that a lot of the older titles are there because of idiot hipsters voting on this stuff after watching MST3K episodes.
RC, I agree with you on the cut-off date you give. I have seen movies made after 1990, and a lot of them were not worth my time. Most stuff prior to that year, I know fairly well and enjoy greatly. If I mention a movie older than 1990 to most of the people I know, I get blank looks. Yeah, folks, let's just ignore nearly 90 years worth of cinema because your first theater experience was Home Alone or Pretty Woman.
It's damn frustrating when on the facebook thing-there is a page called Psychotronic Movies-not Mike Weldon-as much as I think Weldon is a dick-he does know his s**t-and there was a "favorite actor letter K"-I was the ONLY one to list Karloff. NONE of these punks knew about f**king KARLOFF!!! :hot:
Not many apparently
#98 Troll 2 - It is what it is. Not good, but fun to watch.
#95 Blubberella - It was kinda fun to first watch BloodRayne 3 and then this one.
#76 Battlefield Earth - I had so much facepalm watching that movie that my head hurts to this day.
#57 Alone in the Dark - First Boll movie I watched and I still think it's fun.
#18 Daniel der Zauberer - Now here's a movie that should not exist.
#16 House of the Dead - Second Boll movie I watched and I like it even more than AitD. Maybe it's because of Jürgen Prochnow (Got a soft spot for everyone that was in Das Boot). Unfortunately Boll rereleased the movie as a "funny version" that just didn't work.
#5 Disaster Movie - For some reason I own it on DVD...bought it out of curiousity cheap from a super market. The film was unwatchable garbage, but I kinda liked the "I'm f**king Matt Damon" music video included in the extras.
Quote from: Javakoala on September 13, 2014, 03:32:57 AM
Yeah, folks, let's just ignore nearly 90 years worth of cinema because your first theater experience was Home Alone or Pretty Woman.
Don't know if you've read Stephen King's
Danse Macabre, but it's worth the read.
He talks about how modern audiences don't fully appreciate older movies because they focus too much on the visuals.
Specifically, an audience in the '50's (for example) would accept the 50's visuals as being par for the course, and as such, keyed on the story. The story may, or may not, have been "good," but the visual FX was not the "Focus" of the film.
Younger modern audiences look at older films and say, "That's not realistic." Of course, at the time, that was neither possible nor even the goal. But, at the time, it did not matter because
nothing was visually realistic in film.
It's an interesting lens to use to examine difference audience groups. As such, what is "good" or "bad" as voted by an Internet voting group is influenced by their own context. I suspect a 1950's film goer would see BATTLEFIELD EARTH (for example) very, very differently than a modern voter. By contrast, how is THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL seen by modern audiences?
And, another point. Modern audiences are preoccupied with plot points being "correct." Older movies freely dove into "fiction" and did not worry with the audience accepting the premise.
So, contemporary audiences view movies and delight in pointing out "That cannot happen" or "they would never do that." Since older movie makers worried less about factual basis when they were clearly in the realm of fiction, older movies are going to be judge more harshly.
And groups, movie advocates, not knowing who Karloff is? Shameful. Purely shameful.
Quote from: ulthar on September 13, 2014, 11:03:28 PM
And, another point. Modern audiences are preoccupied with plot points being "correct." Older movies freely dove into "fiction" and did not worry with the audience accepting the premise.
So, contemporary audiences view movies and delight in pointing out "That cannot happen" or "they would never do that." Since older movie makers worried less about factual basis when they were clearly in the realm of fiction, older movies are going to be judge more harshly.
And groups, movie advocates, not knowing who Karloff is? Shameful. Purely shameful.
The whole point of fantasy films-for me at least-is to suspend belief and become immersed into the unreal-to escape our fact bound world and dive into a world of the unreal and fantastic. Like Sinbad-to explore the unknown and marvel at it's wonders.
:cheers:
me too,rc. i've been an a binge of movies made by the hammerfilm folks recently.
i threatened my young friend matt's life if he said"that's not possible" just one more time,lol!
he's a sweet boy,so he shut up. then,he started getting into the movie,had a blast,and i think i won't hear that much anymore.
and at 21,just so you know,karloff is one of his heroes! :)
Wow a lot of them clearly come from MST3K. What happened to Pocket Ninjas?
The top film was interesting because it's a Bollywood movie that Bangledeshis for some reason found offensive thus hundreds of that left angry one star reviews on IMDB. It was impossible to tell whether the film was actually bad or not, all of the reviews I saw were of a political nature.
I know that Daniel der Zauberer (2004) was intentionally downvoted after some guys started a Internet petition/campaign. The reason being Daniel Küblböck who came in second in a "Germany Got Talent" type of show. In regards of annoying popularity (he was like the goofy version of Justin Bieber and Miley Cyrus combined), his 15 minutes of fame consisted of a few cheesy pop songs and the movie Daniel der Zauberer.
The movie was indeed awful but it only got attention and many downvotes because of that campaign.
Either I am not living up to my potential, or I am not living down to my potential. Of the IMDB Bottom 100, I have seen only . . . Drum roll please . . .
84. Santa Claus Conquers the Martians.
Yes, it is a product of the '60's, 1964 to be exact.
Yes, it is a film made for kids.
But, I enjoyed it.
It also has the distinction of being Pia Zadora's motion picture debut.