http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-news/did-naacp-president-lie-about-her-race-city-investigates/33533026 (http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-news/did-naacp-president-lie-about-her-race-city-investigates/33533026)
http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-news/First-on-KXLY-Rachel-Dolezal-responds-to-race-allegations/33539322 (http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-news/First-on-KXLY-Rachel-Dolezal-responds-to-race-allegations/33539322)
More embarrassing news from my home... :buggedout:
She lied.
That's the sticking point.
So what if she was born 'white' and her genetic antecedents were Swedish, German and Czech? From all indications she *feels* she is black, considers herself black, identifies as black. Funny: if we were talking gender nobody would argue.
Yes I am being facetious. But...?
eta: per one of the comments "well I guess she will be one of the first "brave pioneers" in the world of trans-ethnicity....."
Keeps reminding me of that episode of 3rd Rock From The Sun in which the Solomons are trying to figure out what race they are...
If this woman were playing Nina, Dick wouldn't have been the only one who needed that post-it note...
I guess I'm just old fashioned.
I wish people would be happy to be who they are.
Quote from: indianasmith on June 13, 2015, 11:57:51 PM
I wish people would be happy to be who they are.
I'm certain that is what they would tell you they are trying to do: be who they feel they
really are.
What you are and what you think you are may not necessarily be the same thing.
I think I am Adonis.
My wife thinks I am Buddha.
I dont know what to think of this-other than shes a liar-but shes a human rights activist-or shes a liar trying to make a name for herself promoting herself as a human rights advocate.
Hmm-I'd say shes a phoney liar.
The outer surface other people 'see' in passing is not necessarily what you 'are', either.
I think these days it is understood to work more along the lines of "For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he".
But the real issue is she lied outright. Now I am reading that not only did she claim that photo (in the news clip) was of her biological father (which it was not), but she also has been claiming one of her adopted brothers is her son (also not true) and she accepted a scholarship that was supposed to go to an African-American student. Woman is truly messed up.
It's a good scam. or it was
Black people come in so many different shades and maybe they have an accent or maybe they don't. looking at her and listening to her now of course she's white, but if it hadn't been brought to my attention it wouldn't have occured to me to doubt it. again, a good scam.
I'm
1) Not 100% informed
2) being a bit judgy here
3) refraining from turning this isn to a sitcom plot
But this feels a bit like mental illness one way or the other.
-Ed
I agree. When you watch her speak she is not really black and she's speaking about fake incidents which she made up and reported. It's insane.
And according to reports, she's resigned from the NAACP.
This wasn't funny thirty years ago, and it's even less funny now.
Soul Man (1986)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091991/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091991/)
They should look under her porch. I'm a firm believer in where there's smoke theres fire. She's a legit sociopath
That she identifies as black doesn't bother me.
That she used African-American culture for personal gain, that rubs me the wrong way and leads me to believe she might be a bit mentally ill. If I'm not mistaken, she took on this identity in college when she was supposedly persecuted against (she went to a mostly black college and was allegedly the subject of racism). I wouldn't be against thinking that the experience drove her insane.
Personally, I wouldn't compare her to Caitlyn Jenner. Jenner was up front from the beginning that she felt like a woman and Dolezal hid the fact that she wasn't originally black. That to me either says scam artist or nut job (or both).
I'm so confused... for months I was told (by the news) that a guy wants to be a girl and gets a sex change and it's all good (we must call the guy a girl)... so how does this white girl wants to be black makes it any more different. So she wants to be black. I don't see an issue... if I'm forced to accept a man wants to be a woman as NORMAL.
Oddly, I recall in the Pink Panther story, there was a guy that thought he was Napoleon, he was inside a psycho ward (and we thought it was a correct place for people like him)... maybe he's not insane, and he's correct in thinking he's Napoleon... or maybe we (society as a whole) is too willing to accept what is odd as normal and make normal as odd.
:)
This story has gone from being moderately amusing to downright offensive as far as I am concerned.
Apparently, this woman's emotional need to be something she biologically is NOT trumps any consideration
she might have for her family. We truly live in an age where feelings govern everything, from biology to
politics to history. What's real doesn't matter, it's how we FEEL about the world that determines reality.
This is an extraordinarily selfish woman.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/rachel-dolezal-no-biological-proof-she-has-white-parents/ar-AAbIbe3 (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/rachel-dolezal-no-biological-proof-she-has-white-parents/ar-AAbIbe3)
I can see how a man would want to be a woman just due to chromosomes and testosterone and whatnot. 98% of babies are born straight a few are born gay or in some sort of confusion that seems logical to me.
Thinking you're black is another story. Africa is a place, it's not a gene.
Quote from: lester1/2jr on June 17, 2015, 03:23:02 PM
I can see how a man would want to be a woman just due to chromosomes and testosterone and whatnot. 98% of babies are born straight a few are born gay or in some sort of confusion that seems logical to me.
I do wonder how many of those babies are born thinking they are Napoleon...
Sure there is some people born liking same sex... but that doen't mean transgender. I do know the transgender suicide rate is 41%. 41% is almost half, that's a big freaking number. I think this is a mental sickness that needs to be addressed (not awarded or mocked) there are people that are going through the operation and killing themselves because it's irreversible and sometimes they find out the gay relationship don't work out well. I think it was best said on South Park when Mr Slave was leaving Mr Garrison "I liked you because I like guys!" (I do believe this holds some truth)
QuoteThinking you're black is another story. Africa is a place, it's not a gene.
Well, I remember seeing the 1970's Patty Hearst story and a white guy said "Man, I wish I was black" He said that only because he believed the SLA...
After listening to her response on why she done this... well, it seemed that she was brainwashed into hating white people when she was in school. (just like in the Patty Hearst story). Very sad.
Yeah, I understand there are issues with sex changes much moreso than with homosexuality or other things. Johns Hopkins doesn't do them anymore I don't think?
Bruce Jenner isn't like the first person who's had or is going to have it done though. That's why I didn't care about that whole thing too much. Wow someone I don't know is getting a sex change that's great!
This Bruce Jenner thing is an interesting topic... I do a ton of thoughts on the subject. (sorry I don't want to go too way off topic here)
Anyway, I'm only bringing him in this topic because they do have similarities. The fact is and no matter how much of a sex change Bruce Jenner gets... he will always be a boy!
Quote from: Skull on June 18, 2015, 08:17:34 PM
This Bruce Jenner thing is an interesting topic... I do a ton of thoughts on the subject. (sorry I don't want to go too way off topic here)
Anyway, I'm only bringing him in this topic because they do have similarities. The fact is and no matter how much of a sex change Bruce Jenner gets... he will always be a boy!
What Bruce Jenner did was HONEST-yes-I think he's nuts.
BUT-beyond all the publicity-he isnt doing it for money.He really wants to be a woman-f**k it! More power to him/her...?
This b***h lied-LIED- made s**t up-lied about everything-and shes just full of s**t.
I dont give a flying f**k about the insanity of things-Dahmer was insane too-I aint gonna give anyone leeway just because their f**king crazy.
Quote from: RCMerchant on June 21, 2015, 06:15:19 AM
Quote from: Skull on June 18, 2015, 08:17:34 PM
This Bruce Jenner thing is an interesting topic... I do a ton of thoughts on the subject. (sorry I don't want to go too way off topic here)
Anyway, I'm only bringing him in this topic because they do have similarities. The fact is and no matter how much of a sex change Bruce Jenner gets... he will always be a boy!
What Bruce Jenner did was HONEST-yes-I think he's nuts.
BUT-beyond all the publicity-he isnt doing it for money.He really wants to be a woman-f**k it! More power to him/her...?
This b***h lied-LIED- made s**t up-lied about everything-and shes just full of s**t.
I dont give a flying f**k about the insanity of things-Dahmer was insane too-I aint gonna give anyone leeway just because their f**king crazy.
One could say she was in the closet 'wanting to be black' and this just forced her to come out of the closet. So big deal she was caught.
I think if this happen in any other company (it would be a non-news issue). The point that she was a big wheel in the NAACP (which is raciest by default - since we all know that the person HAS to be black to have her spot) And I'm going to believe that the NAACP told her to reign.
One could also say shes a big time delusional piece of s**t liar.
Oh-gee-I think I just said that.
If she was white and put herself across as a human rights activist-fine-but shes a stuttering moron.
All the hate mail is -was made by her!
Shes a liar-flat out simple-shes full of s**t.
I have a cousin who's a hula dancer. She's half Hawaiian and half Polish/ German I wonder if that ever bothers any of the other Hula dancers. She looks Hawaiian generally speaking
The NAACP is such a self-serving anachronism who even cares? W.E.B. Du Bois wouldn't recognize what the organization has long-since become.
Quote from: RCMerchant on June 21, 2015, 09:02:46 AM
One could also say shes a big time delusional piece of s**t liar.
Oh-gee-I think I just said that.
Delusional - Yeah...
Piece of s**t... Well, well... People had lied about their race, color, sexuality for years. This is nothing new. The only thing that makes it news is how the NAACP didn't see that the girl wasn't black. And then again, if the NAACP isn't racist then why would it matter. Oh, because they are racist...
This issue sort of reminds me of Dave Chappelle playing as a blind White Supremacist leader.
The truth is places of NAACP should no longer exist. Crap, was born in 1970! I never own a slave, I never seen these signs telling black people to sit in the back of the bus, and I never saw Martin Luther King! Yes, every day I keep hearing that white people have more power then black people. Yeah? Yeah?
What really sickens me that for a few years, white policemen happen to kill black thugs because the thugs attacked them or resisted (sure it sucks but it happens)... now we have some idiot young adult (who been hearing this racist crap from the president) and he wants to join in with the chaos... Now I'm stuck listing to the President saying stuff like "see I told you we are living in a raciest country" (talk about a piece of s**t)
Seriously, the guy cries wolf several times, starts riots and have policemen assassinated and now I'm going to listen how right he was because some young adult decided to look for fame by killing black people in a church.
No, this girl was no way a piece of s**t... she was brainwashed into believing this bulls**t because there are too many people wanting the 1960's racism back. And its never going to happen....
Hell, I bet 90% of the Obama votes from whites was intended to end the racism issue... while 90% of the blacks that voted for Obama was based on skin color only...
Her parents were ex hippy born again home schoolers who had tons of rules and so forth. Not to disparage any of these groups but ...she had a bad childhood. it's not surprising she would want to in essence turn into something else