They did it again?! How did they f**k it up again?!
This one has a lower rating on IMDb than the '05 movie!
HOW?!
:hatred:
I don't know, as I have no plans to see it, but . . . There is the rumor going around, that if this fails at the box office, 20th Century Fox, as this is a 20th Century Fox film, will either do the next film in conjunction with the Walt Disney Company or let everything go back to the Walt Disney Company, as the Walt Disney Company, in conjunction with Marvel, seems to be the only one able to do a superhero film correctly. And we shall see what we shall see.
Why can't they make a decent Fantastic Four movie is it so hard
Quote from: lester1/2jr on August 13, 2015, 04:47:10 PM
Why can't they make a decent Fantastic Four movie is it so hard
Roger Corman did, and it was supposed to be not released.
Quote from: A.J. Bauer on August 13, 2015, 10:37:13 AM
They did it again?! How did they f**k it up again?!
This one has a lower rating on IMDb than the '05 movie!
HOW?!
:hatred:
Fox.
(http://i.imgur.com/WDeTj51.jpg)
Quote from: El Misfit on August 13, 2015, 06:21:22 PM
Roger Corman did, and it was supposed to be not released.
I've seen that one and, yes, it was corny. However, it's not like the contemporary Fantastic 4 comics weren't also corny as all hell. That was somewhat before they tried to go all grim'n'dark.
When I saw the initial trailers for this one the whole tone of the movie just turned me off going to see it in the cinema. Nothing I've seen since has made me think about changing my mind. I imagine I'll end up watching it on netflix or something somewhere down the line.
Quote from: akiratubo on August 13, 2015, 09:10:58 PM
Quote from: El Misfit on August 13, 2015, 06:21:22 PM
Roger Corman did, and it was supposed to be not released.
I've seen that one and, yes, it was corny. However, it's not like the contemporary Fantastic 4 comics weren't also corny as all hell. That was somewhat before they tried to go all grim'n'dark.
That there can be linked to the main problem with the three newer Fantastic Four movies; grim n dark. Instead of being goofy and enjoyable, it has to pile on the exposition and s**t to make us side with them, but all it does is drain us from enjoyment.
Quote from: A.J. Bauer on August 13, 2015, 10:37:13 AM
They did it again?! How did they f**k it up again?!
This one has a lower rating on IMDb than the '05 movie!
HOW?!
Same way they always do, by not appreciating the source material.
Face it, the suits are just looking for a tax write off. And the cretins will get it.
Freakin Batman and Robin have a better raiting on Rotten Tomateos. :buggedout: :buggedout: :buggedout: :buggedout:
Quote from: akiratubo on August 13, 2015, 09:10:58 PM
Quote from: El Misfit on August 13, 2015, 06:21:22 PM
Roger Corman did, and it was supposed to be not released.
I've seen that one and, yes, it was corny. However, it's not like the contemporary Fantastic 4 comics weren't also corny as all hell. That was somewhat before they tried to go all grim'n'dark.
The GOOD Marvel movies tend to be corny at times too. They know they're silly and they have fun with it. Let's face it, having Tony Stark mouth off about everything is one of the better parts of the Ironman movies, and everybody looks forward to the Stan lee cameos.
They're just taking things too seriously and not having fun with them. ... and horribly butchering the source material. That's not really a good thing either.
Oh, noooo... You've gotta be kidding me. I was really looking forward to this, too. The first trailer made it look like Interstellar, for goodness sake! You'd think they would have learned from all the successes of current Marvel movies, and even the better of the X-Men movies. Darn it, are we ever going to get a decent FF movie???
It looks like 20th Century Fox is going to hold onto it, instead of letting it go, and make another run at it. Though, it's not scheduled to be released till 6/9/17. What surprises me is that the cast will be the same as last time. No casting changes announced, so far. But . . .?! This is where it gets interesting.
Where will you be on 11/27/19? There is another Fantastic Four film coming, and with that title it has to be something similar to this year's film, but . . .?! It is not from 20th Century Fox. And it gets even more interesting. It's not live action like the previous films. It's ANIMATED!
And we shall see what we shall see.
Well, the presumed fiasco that is "Fantastic Four" has claimed its 1st causality. Uber producer Kathleen Kennedy at Lucas Films had invited director Josh Trank to direct the upcoming untitled Boba Fett film in 2018, but . . ?! When she saw "Fantastic Four," she disinvited him.
As to what we presume went wrong, there is an article in a recent edition of "Entertainment Weekly," that says it was a variety of conflicting visions that could not be reconciled on the screen, but . . .?! I think it began even before that. I like Jamie Bell. I think he is a fine actor, but . . .?! I think he was miscast as Ben Grimm/The Thing. You'd think they want an actor with some heft to him, and he is just a tiny little thing. Sometimes counter casting can work, but . . .?! not here.
Hearing that the rumor of a stand-alone Boba Fett film is true and is coming in 2018, where does that place the stand-alone Han Solo film that is suppose to be coming? 2020?
And we shall see what we shall see.
You know what might be part of the problem? And I know this probably seems counter intuitive-but the next time they reboot this franchise, they should NOT have Doctor Doom as the first main villain.
I think they need to build him up a bit before unleashing him, kind of what I'm guessing the plan for Sinestro was in the failed Green Lantern movies. Because in the two modern Fantastic Four movies they keep making the same two decisions:
A. Doom is involved in their creation
B. Doom has superpowers.
In the movies, giving Doom superpowers just seems to be a way to have him be able to stand toe-to-tow with the FF. In comics, Doctor Doom iron suit is a battle armor that matches anything Iron Man has, AND he's a wizard in line for the title of Sorcerer Supreme (aka Dr Strange's position) He's also a scientific genius probably smarter than Reed Richards-its only his ego that blinds him to mistakes. Seriously, if you ever think Superman is an OP characters, read about what Doom can do.
They can have Vicitor Von Doom in the first movie, but keep him somewhat in the background while the FF take on another for, like the Red Ghost or Mole man.
Give us a movie setting him up better. Hints of what he'll become, so that when he finally gets involved the audience understands better just how big a threat Doctor Doom really is.
I actually enjoyed the 05 movie and its sequel.
I'll watch this one with zero expectations and report my reaction.
Quote from: WingedSerpent on September 02, 2015, 07:22:29 PM
In the movies, giving Doom superpowers just seems to be a way to have him be able to stand toe-to-tow with the FF. In comics, Doctor Doom iron suit is a battle armor that matches anything Iron Man has, AND he's a wizard in line for the title of Sorcerer Supreme (aka Dr Strange's position) He's also a scientific genius probably smarter than Reed Richards-its only his ego that blinds him to mistakes. Seriously, if you ever think Superman is an OP characters, read about what Doom can do.
They can have Vicitor Von Doom in the first movie, but keep him somewhat in the background while the FF take on another for, like the Red Ghost or Mole man.
Give us a movie setting him up better. Hints of what he'll become, so that when he finally gets involved the audience understands better just how big a threat Doctor Doom really is.
Doom has long been my favourite Marvel villain, and for the movie execs to f**k with his character and history so badly is incredibly disappointing. Fox needs to relinquish FF so Marvel Studios can do it properly. They brought Iron Man's origin into the 21st century, they can do the same again.
I'd love to see a short film based on the Doctor Strange/Doctor Doom graphic novel 'Triumph and Torment' where they journey to Hell to rescue the soul of Doom's mother. Heck, make Doom an super antihero, why not.
Would love to see the mid-late 80's Doom who is the benevolent tyrant of Latveria, with bedazzled townspeople praising his name, and FF befuddled by their loyalty. Give him the monomaniacal ego but old-world European courtliness. Bring on the convoluted schemes, the memory wipes, the Doombots. Not sure if this can be viable for a single movie or trilogy, but I believe it's what the fans would want. It's certainly what I want!
Quote from: Archivist on September 04, 2015, 04:42:22 AM
Would love to see the mid-late 80's Doom who is the benevolent tyrant of Latveria, with bedazzled townspeople praising his name, and FF befuddled by their loyalty. Give him the monomaniacal ego but old-world European courtliness. Bring on the convoluted schemes, the memory wipes, the Doombots. Not sure if this can be viable for a single movie or trilogy, but I believe it's what the fans would want. It's certainly what I want!
Get Doom into the mainstream Marvel Cinematic Universe and you have an epic villain who is more entertaining than Thanos. You can have him involved in all kinds of plots, and he can occasionally help defeat a dire threat when it's in his interests.