RIP
The Dark Universe
2017-2017
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Sorry, I just remembered the Dark Universe was supposed to be a thing, laughed internally, and then posted this.
It's okay man.
I was looking forward to the Dark Universe.
Then I saw Dracula Untold which was supposed to start it. Okay, it's not horrible, but it isn't really a good movie either.
Then they said it didn't count because nobody liked it.
THEN they announced the Mummy and I thought, "okay. I wouldn't exactly start the series with the mummy, but let's see what they've got planned." Then i saw they had Dr. Jekyll in the movie and it starred Tom Cruise. At that point I knew they just didn't get it.
Dracula untold was basically a super hero movie with Dracula as a half assed super hero.
"Marvel has a universe, lets try that."
"Oh, that Dracula movie SUCKED, so we'll reboot it a year in."
"I know the answer: Tom Cruise!"
I was interested in this. I hoped it would've worked. I grew up watching the Universal Monster films. It was an interesting direction to try and go in.
Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on August 25, 2018, 07:14:24 PM
Dracula untold was basically a super hero movie with Dracula as a half assed super hero.
I forgot that movie existed.
Quote from: A.J. Bauer on August 25, 2018, 09:02:08 PM
Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on August 25, 2018, 07:14:24 PM
Dracula untold was basically a super hero movie with Dracula as a half assed super hero.
I forgot that movie existed.
It wasn't exactly very memorable.
Here's my question....what where the tent pole movies for the Dark Universe supposed to be? The MCU has the Avengers, the DCEU has the Justice League, and the Monsterverse is leading up to Godzilla vs King Kong (after that it just seems to stop)
From what I've seen proposed- no movies seemed to be the ones where the monsters meet up. Possibly the Van Helsing reboot- but it seems all the films where going to exist interdependent from each other. Probably just with the Prodigium acting as some sort of hub or common element.
Another problem is that some of the stories just don't work in modern time as well. I really do not what to see the Phantom of the Opera stalking his love via social media.
To it looks like they forgot they were supposed to be making horror films and the whole shared universe part was dealt with in a very ham fisted manner.
I didn't like the idea from day one.
It just seemed stupid. Universal was trying to cash in on the Marvel, DC superhero Universes- and those are overblown f/x fests.
Lotsa action and fights things being destroyed.
Frankenstein and Dracula shouldn't be ACTION! movies. They're horror movies, and remakes of them have to be done like horror movies.
I really can't say a good Frankenstein movie has been made since the 70's.
Well, FRANKENWEENIE was great!
Quote from: WingedSerpent on August 28, 2018, 08:27:53 PM
Here's my question....what where the tent pole movies for the Dark Universe supposed to be? The MCU has the Avengers, the DCEU has the Justice League, and the Monsterverse is leading up to Godzilla vs King Kong (after that it just seems to stop)
From what I've seen proposed- no movies seemed to be the ones where the monsters meet up. Possibly the Van Helsing reboot- but it seems all the films where going to exist interdependent from each other. Probably just with the Prodigium acting as some sort of hub or common element.
Another problem is that some of the stories just don't work in modern time as well. I really do not what to see the Phantom of the Opera stalking his love via social media.
From what I could gather, Russell Crowe as Jeckyl/Hyde was supposed to be the Nick Fury/Sam Jackson role. IE, bringing them all together. Had it worked out. Hence his appearance in the Mummy flick.
f**k man-it barely made sense in the OLD Universal series with the monsters all in one movie. And they had Lon Chaney Jr. in all of them!
Fact of the matter is-the old Universal monsters taht the new Universal is trying to capitalize on is in a time and place of itself. You can't revive that in any way that would do justice to Karloff,Lugosi, James Whale, and all the folks who made those films classic.
f**k all that. And everybody knows it. That's why the movies tank.
Quote from: HappyGilmore on August 29, 2018, 08:54:21 PM
From what I could gather, Russell Crowe as Jeckyl/Hyde was supposed to be the Nick Fury/Sam Jackson role. IE, bringing them all together. Had it worked out. Hence his appearance in the Mummy flick.
That I got-but bring them together for what purpose? Maybe to fight that god of death mentioned in
The Mummy, but why would the monsters fight something that's probably on their side? Or could it have been a reverse-Avengers type deal with the world finding itself attacked by collection of evil?
Second, the abbot and Costello movies are considered part of the Univeral monster collection-so would the modern equivalent be something like
Key and Peele meet Dracula
Quote from: WingedSerpent on August 30, 2018, 09:38:45 PM
Second, the abbot and Costello movies are considered part of the Univeral monster collection-so would the modern equivalent be something like Key and Peele meet Dracula
Now that, I would definitely go to see.
Quote from: WingedSerpent on August 30, 2018, 09:38:45 PM
Quote from: HappyGilmore on August 29, 2018, 08:54:21 PM
From what I could gather, Russell Crowe as Jeckyl/Hyde was supposed to be the Nick Fury/Sam Jackson role. IE, bringing them all together. Had it worked out. Hence his appearance in the Mummy flick.
That I got-but bring them together for what purpose? Maybe to fight that god of death mentioned in The Mummy, but why would the monsters fight something that's probably on their side? Or could it have been a reverse-Avengers type deal with the world finding itself attacked by collection of evil?
Second, the abbot and Costello movies are considered part of the Univeral monster collection-so would the modern equivalent be something like Key and Peele meet Dracula
Well if all humans died, Dracula. Has. No food source so he might fight to protect human existence. The wolfman is still human most of the time so he might oppose the destruction of humanity. The mummy wants to rule humanity as a divine goddess so she might fight the death goddess. As for Frankenstein, well he thinks little girls. Are pretty and has a soft spot for them.
I quite enjoyed Dracula Untold, and looked forward to a movie series that brought that character back. The idea of it being a superhero movie never occurred to me, but it makes a lot of sense in hindsight.
Quote from: WingedSerpent on August 30, 2018, 09:38:45 PM
Quote from: HappyGilmore on August 29, 2018, 08:54:21 PM
From what I could gather, Russell Crowe as Jeckyl/Hyde was supposed to be the Nick Fury/Sam Jackson role. IE, bringing them all together. Had it worked out. Hence his appearance in the Mummy flick.
That I got-but bring them together for what purpose? Maybe to fight that god of death mentioned in The Mummy, but why would the monsters fight something that's probably on their side? Or could it have been a reverse-Avengers type deal with the world finding itself attacked by collection of evil?
Second, the abbot and Costello movies are considered part of the Univeral monster collection-so would the modern equivalent be something like Key and Peele meet Dracula
Never really researched what his reasoning for being all together was or is. But we're not getting more anyways so. I dunno.
f**king Christ onna cross.
It's not a good idea. Waste of f**king money. No one will watch it.