Name some things from movies that seemed cool at first but when you stop and think about it...
Jaws, from the james bond movies, would likely be about the worst excuse for a 'hitman' possible. Sure he's a strong, tough giant with steel teeth who can bite thru trolley cable. So what?
First off he's a giant, making his obviously recognizable in a crowd. Who is he really going to sneak up on? Any competent guard could spot him a mile off, and if he's so well known in those circles who would he be going after that didn't know about him?
International law enforcement would have to know about him, Interpol would surely have him on record, he can't get past a metal detector and what's his big gimmick? He bites people to death.
Whoop-ti-doo.
Who could stop him? Well, anyone with a good gun. Gimme a .45 or a 10mm loaded with high power rounds and I''l be hollering "TIM-BERRRRR" after I put 3 in him. Her was most effective in the movies when the enemy had no gun for one reason or another.
Jaws was mostly comedy relief, in reality he'd be a terrible excuse for a hitman.
well in 'reality' Bond would be a terrible excuse for a spy (especially Roger Moore's Bond), so it all kind of evens itself out.
also the notion that "anyone with a good gun" could stop Jaws is rather self explanatory...if you're trying to go for a realistic approach, then who does that logic not apply to?
I had to take a moment when I realized that Uwe Boll was actually more than capable of making a good film. I watched the movie Darfur, burst into tears at the end of it and was shocked to find out who the director was.
Quote from: Trevor on February 07, 2019, 03:24:22 AM
I had to take a moment when I realized that Uwe Boll was actually more than capable of making a good film. I watched the movie Darfur, burst into tears at the end of it and was shocked to find out who the director was.
I've not seen it, but I believe he did one about the Korean war that was well received.
Quote from: zombie no.one on February 07, 2019, 03:20:23 AM
well in 'reality' Bond would be a terrible excuse for a spy (especially Roger Moore's Bond), so it all kind of evens itself out.
also the notion that "anyone with a good gun" could stop Jaws is rather self explanatory...if you're trying to go for a realistic approach, then who does that logic not apply to?
Um, someone who doesn't stick out like a sore thumb? Someone a guard couldn't spot in a crowd? Someone who's trademark kill doesn't involve getting close enough to bite someone's neck bones?
Quote from: Dark Alex on February 07, 2019, 03:57:01 AM
Quote from: Trevor on February 07, 2019, 03:24:22 AM
I had to take a moment when I realized that Uwe Boll was actually more than capable of making a good film. I watched the movie Darfur, burst into tears at the end of it and was shocked to find out who the director was.
I've not seen it, but I believe he did one about the Korean war that was well received.
I don't know if it's the one you're thinking of, but he made a film in SA called
Tunnel Rats / 1968 Tunnel Rats dealing with the Vietnam war: it's not every war movie that has the song
In The Year 2525 as its' theme tune. :teddyr:
Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on February 07, 2019, 06:13:39 AM
Quote from: zombie no.one on February 07, 2019, 03:20:23 AM
well in 'reality' Bond would be a terrible excuse for a spy (especially Roger Moore's Bond), so it all kind of evens itself out.
also the notion that "anyone with a good gun" could stop Jaws is rather self explanatory...if you're trying to go for a realistic approach, then who does that logic not apply to?
Um, someone who doesn't stick out like a sore thumb? Someone a guard couldn't spot in a crowd? Someone who's trademark kill doesn't involve getting close enough to bite someone's neck bones?
I admit my knowledge of firearms is minimal, but I was unaware they only work on 8ft tall behemoths. I'll bear that in mind next time I'm recruiting some henchmen...
Quote from: Trevor on February 07, 2019, 06:16:00 AM
Quote from: Dark Alex on February 07, 2019, 03:57:01 AM
Quote from: Trevor on February 07, 2019, 03:24:22 AM
I had to take a moment when I realized that Uwe Boll was actually more than capable of making a good film. I watched the movie Darfur, burst into tears at the end of it and was shocked to find out who the director was.
I've not seen it, but I believe he did one about the Korean war that was well received.
I don't know if it's the one you're thinking of, but he made a film in SA called Tunnel Rats / 1968 Tunnel Rats dealing with the Vietnam war: it's not every war movie that has the song In The Year 2525 as its' theme tune. :teddyr:
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Pretty much every slayer movie ever. Most of the killers walk extremely slow and a lot of times they're just normal people that can be gunned down like anyone else. I guess it works because they always stalk stupid teenagers, but sometimes you wonder why they don't just blow them up or cut their heads off.
No, let's run away from them, trip like idiots, and break our ankles so the killer has an easy time. :drink:
A lot of nature's revenge films where the killer is just a normal animal. Not one that's been mutated by radiation or possessed by a demon. Just a normal animal, like the crocodile in Lake Placid or the snake in the first Anaconda movie.
These are creatures in real life have been hunted to near extinction or are facing habitat loss, so we humans clearly outmatch them.
Quote from: zombie no.one on February 07, 2019, 07:16:29 AM
Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on February 07, 2019, 06:13:39 AM
Quote from: zombie no.one on February 07, 2019, 03:20:23 AM
well in 'reality' Bond would be a terrible excuse for a spy (especially Roger Moore's Bond), so it all kind of evens itself out.
also the notion that "anyone with a good gun" could stop Jaws is rather self explanatory...if you're trying to go for a realistic approach, then who does that logic not apply to?
Um, someone who doesn't stick out like a sore thumb? Someone a guard couldn't spot in a crowd? Someone who's trademark kill doesn't involve getting close enough to bite someone's neck bones?
I admit my knowledge of firearms is minimal, but I was unaware they only work on 8ft tall behemoths. I'll bear that in mind next time I'm recruiting some henchmen...
Pointless snark, you lose.
Quote from: Gabriel Knight on February 07, 2019, 09:30:43 AM
Pretty much every slayer movie ever. Most of the killers walk extremely slow and a lot of times they're just normal people that can be gunned down like anyone else. I guess it works because they always stalk stupid teenagers, but sometimes you wonder why they don't just blow them up or cut their heads off.
No, let's run away from them, trip like idiots, and break our ankles so the killer has an easy time. :drink:
And yet there are real slayers... :bluesad:
I like your thinking about Jaws. He's a scary movie villain but would be terrible as a hitman in real life.
Absurb are the slasher movies where:
- the victims run upstairs to escape
the victims think the killer is dead, but don't make sure of it
the victims hear creepy noises outside the house at night and go outside, one by one, to investigate
people think only one bullet will stop the killer
Also when you think abiut it woldn't the death star explosion over Endor in return of the Jedi have xxxxed up the planet by hammering it with massive debris?
Quote from: Archivist on February 07, 2019, 07:21:46 PM
I like your thinking about Jaws. He's a scary movie villain but would be terrible as a hitman in real life.
Absurb are the slasher movies where:
- the victims run upstairs to escape
the victims think the killer is dead, but don't make sure of it
the victims hear creepy noises outside the house at night and go outside, one by one, to investigate
people think only one bullet will stop the killer
Double tap for the win.
Quote from: Archivist on February 07, 2019, 07:21:46 PM
I like your thinking about Jaws. He's a scary movie villain but would be terrible as a hitman in real life.
Absurb are the slasher movies where:
- the victims run upstairs to escape
the victims think the killer is dead, but don't make sure of it
the victims hear creepy noises outside the house at night and go outside, one by one, to investigate
people think only one bullet will stop the killer
To be fair, would we really expect a your average person (who doesn't deal with life or death circumstances on a regular basis) to be making rational decisions after some dude in a hockey mask just killed a bunch of their friends? I will agree though that all of those points make for pretty bad cinema.
Quote from: TensionSplice on March 03, 2019, 11:25:25 PM
Quote from: Archivist on February 07, 2019, 07:21:46 PM
I like your thinking about Jaws. He's a scary movie villain but would be terrible as a hitman in real life.
Absurb are the slasher movies where:
- the victims run upstairs to escape
the victims think the killer is dead, but don't make sure of it
the victims hear creepy noises outside the house at night and go outside, one by one, to investigate
people think only one bullet will stop the killer
To be fair, would we really expect a your average person (who doesn't deal with life or death circumstances on a regular basis) to be making rational decisions after some dude in a hockey mask just killed a bunch of their friends? I will agree though that all of those points make for pretty bad cinema.
Maybe it's BECAUSE I've watched umpteen movies like this, but if, heaven forbid, a homicidal maniac came after me and I managed to put him down, I'm making sure he's staying down.
Decades ago, my great-grandmother heard someone poking around outside the house at about 11.30 in the night, knocking on windows or something. She had this brainwave that maybe she should go outside to have a look! Fortunately, my mother stopped this foolishness and they called the cops instead. So perhaps there's a bit of art imitating life, too.
Quote from: Archivist on March 04, 2019, 01:53:30 AM
Quote from: TensionSplice on March 03, 2019, 11:25:25 PM
Quote from: Archivist on February 07, 2019, 07:21:46 PM
I like your thinking about Jaws. He's a scary movie villain but would be terrible as a hitman in real life.
Absurb are the slasher movies where:
- the victims run upstairs to escape
the victims think the killer is dead, but don't make sure of it
the victims hear creepy noises outside the house at night and go outside, one by one, to investigate
people think only one bullet will stop the killer
To be fair, would we really expect a your average person (who doesn't deal with life or death circumstances on a regular basis) to be making rational decisions after some dude in a hockey mask just killed a bunch of their friends? I will agree though that all of those points make for pretty bad cinema.
Maybe it's BECAUSE I've watched umpteen movies like this, but if, heaven forbid, a homicidal maniac came after me and I managed to put him down, I'm making sure he's staying down.
Decades ago, my great-grandmother heard someone poking around outside the house at about 11.30 in the night, knocking on windows or something. She had this brainwave that maybe she should go outside to have a look! Fortunately, my mother stopped this foolishness and they called the cops instead. So perhaps there's a bit of art imitating life, too.
Ever been in a house alone and heard a strange noise? What did you do at that point?
What do I do? Grab a weapon or two, maybe a light, and investigate.
I'd turn on the outside lights & maybe look out the window.
If I hear a strange noise inside the house, I pick up something which can be used as a weapon and become as quiet as possible to listen for further noises. I remain this way until I'm satisfied that things are okay.
If there's someone obviously in the backyard and knocking on windows, I'm definitely not going outside. That's just silly.
According to my 'Pocket Guide to Surviving Horror Movies', everyone who goes to investigate the noise, regardless of what they take with them dies. The best way to survive is to barricade the room you are in (including boarding up the window).
If I was a movie psycho though, I'd just set the barricades on fire, so not sure it is that great a survival technique. *shrug*
Quote from: Dark Alex on March 05, 2019, 05:06:56 AM
If I was a movie psycho though, I'd just set the barricades on fire, so not sure it is that great a survival technique. *shrug*
And that's happened in real life too. :(
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lloyd_Wright#Catastrophe_at_Taliesin_studio
Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on February 27, 2019, 10:16:17 PM
Also when you think abiut it woldn't the death star explosion over Endor in return of the Jedi have xxxxed up the planet by hammering it with massive debris?
Most of it would've burned up in the atmosphere, with one very large piece going down in an unpopulated region of Australia.
I used to be really impressed by this scene in the man with the golden gun, partially because they make it look so plausible.
http://youtu.be/6B-QUGSCV6c (http://youtu.be/6B-QUGSCV6c)
But later, I have to think "Ok, if you can make this thing work, and hide the flight assembly and the machine meant to attach it to the car in a building, um, why not just have a regular car, perhaps one with s souped up engine, and a regular plane hidden in a building, drive the car to the building, leave it and fly away in the plane? Seems like it'd have to be cheaper and much easier to pull off logistically."
He should have gotten himself a Mizar, but those, of course weren't jet powered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTtrhNUZisY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTtrhNUZisY)
If the Xenomorph requires a host to reproduce, & it always kills its host quickly, is it really one of the most efficient predators in the universe?
Quote from: Pacman000 on May 01, 2019, 08:31:19 AM
If the Xenomorph requires a host to reproduce, & it always kills its host quickly, is it really one of the most efficient predators in the universe?
Hmm, perhaps the built in limit on aliens is some sort of way to ensure they don't outgrow the food supply? Of course this was when the aliens might be a natural lifeform. That idiotic movie prometheus implied they were meant to wipe out humans so maybe once no more humans were left there'd be no need for more aliens in the engineer's POV.
Who cuts Dracula's hair? Or do his laundry? :question:
Quote from: RCMerchant on May 01, 2019, 09:57:17 PM
Who cuts Dracula's hair? Or do his laundry? :question:
Why do you think he always is looking for a woman?
@Sven - The car in TMWTGG is a working model, I believe. It really is a flying car. But we're in the land where assassins kill with a golden bullet fired from a handgun, the Thai government lets a wanted criminal have an entire island, and someone as hot as Britt Ekland actually exists. Logic doesn't apply here.
Quote from: Archivist on February 07, 2019, 07:21:46 PM
I like your thinking about Jaws. He's a scary movie villain but would be terrible as a hitman in real life.
Absurb are the slasher movies where:
- the victims run upstairs to escape
the victims think the killer is dead, but don't make sure of it
the victims hear creepy noises outside the house at night and go outside, one by one, to investigate
people think only one bullet will stop the killer
Percival Rubens'
The Demon has the best example of this: terrified lady takes off all her clothes :buggedout:, hides in the attic crawlspace, dresses up in a shower curtain and cap, stabs the killer to death after he clonks his head on a bathtub then runs out screaming. :question:
Quote from: Archivist on May 02, 2019, 01:11:12 AM
@Sven - The car in TMWTGG is a working model, I believe. It really is a flying car. But we're in the land where assassins kill with a golden bullet fired from a handgun, the Thai government lets a wanted criminal have an entire island, and someone as hot as Britt Ekland actually exists. Logic doesn't apply here.
Actually china owned scaramanga's island, he did a few jobs for them now and then as rent.
That I find completely real;istic.
Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on May 02, 2019, 01:57:18 PM
Quote from: Archivist on May 02, 2019, 01:11:12 AM
@Sven - The car in TMWTGG is a working model, I believe. It really is a flying car. But we're in the land where assassins kill with a golden bullet fired from a handgun, the Thai government lets a wanted criminal have an entire island, and someone as hot as Britt Ekland actually exists. Logic doesn't apply here.
Actually china owned scaramanga's island, he did a few jobs for them now and then as rent.
That I find completely real;istic.
Ahh you're right about China, I was thinking of the actual location of the island in real life. And yeah, that's pretty realistic.