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Title: BAD movies by GOOD directors.
Post by: RCMerchant on July 29, 2019, 10:29:27 PM
I love Hitchcock. But I watched TO CATCH A THIEF the other night. What a meandering, boring romantic comedy. It doesn't know what it wants to be. But good ain't one of them.
Title: Re: BAD movies by GOOD directors.
Post by: bob on July 29, 2019, 10:35:04 PM
Martin Brest directed Gigli
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Post by: RCMerchant on July 29, 2019, 11:17:38 PM
Quote from: bob on July 29, 2019, 10:35:04 PM
Martin Brest directed Gigli


I didn't even know who that was. I looked him up on IMDB.
ewww...
I can't say I like any of his movies.
BEVERLY HILL COP was ok once.
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Post by: Svengoolie 3 on July 30, 2019, 01:05:03 AM
Steven Spielberg and temple of doom.

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Post by: zombie no.one on July 30, 2019, 01:09:49 AM
THE WOLF OF WALL STREET

I know this has fans and got loads of praise, but for me it was like a gone-wrong remix of GOODFELLAS. I couldn't stand it.


DJANGO UNCHAINED

ditto above...I know people love it, but for me this was a never ending, pretentious, smug load of pants.


INTOLERABLE CRUELTY

Coen bros have made a few of my all time favourite movies, and while they've made a few I didn't personally like (MILLER'S CROSSING, O BROTHER...) those still had some kind of style and uniqueness. However this one just sucked. -and it looks like the general consensus agrees with me on this one
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Post by: Trevor on July 30, 2019, 02:34:19 AM
Richard Donner: Lethal Weapon 2. (Anti South African POS film)
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Post by: bob on July 30, 2019, 09:25:20 AM
Rob Reiner directed and produced North.

The Coen Brothers wrote, produced and directed Burn After Reading.
Title: Re: BAD movies by GOOD directors.
Post by: Gabriel Knight on July 30, 2019, 09:34:16 AM
Quote from: bob on July 30, 2019, 09:25:20 AM
Rob Reiner directed and produced North.

The Coen Brothers wrote, produced and directed Burn After Reading.

I was about to mention that they made THE BIG LEBOWSKI.  :twirl:
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Post by: zombie no.one on July 30, 2019, 12:25:09 PM
BURN AFTER READING is great imo. ditto BIG LEBOWSKI.

those 2 and FARGO, my top 3 Coen bros films
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Post by: Allhallowsday on July 30, 2019, 01:19:29 PM
Apparently HITCHCOCK's last film in England is not well thought of: JAMAICA INN (1939).  It was a big success in it's time, but it often makes "worst films of all time" lists.  I've seen it a couple of times, and I like it (though it's casting might be unlikely).  ROBERT NEWTON  MAUREEN O'HARA  CHARLES LAUGHTON ...

http://youtu.be/cCZ9o9qduV8 (http://youtu.be/cCZ9o9qduV8)  
Title: Re: BAD movies by GOOD directors.
Post by: RCMerchant on August 01, 2019, 06:23:21 PM
Quote from: Allhallowsday on July 30, 2019, 01:19:29 PM
Apparently HITCHCOCK's last film in England is not well thought of: JAMAICA INN (1939).  It was a big success in it's time, but it often makes "worst films of all time" lists.  I've seen it a couple of times, and I like it (though it's casting might be unlikely).  ROBERT NEWTON  MAUREEN O'HARA  CHARLES LAUGHTON ...

http://youtu.be/cCZ9o9qduV8 (http://youtu.be/cCZ9o9qduV8)  

I never got a chance to see that one! I love most anything with Charles Laughton!

John Frankenhiemer- who made a lot of good movies, also made a mutant bear film-PROPHECY (1979)

http://youtu.be/yVthCwOwswI (http://youtu.be/yVthCwOwswI)


Title: Re: BAD movies by GOOD directors.
Post by: bob on August 01, 2019, 07:52:39 PM
Steven Spielberg directed 2005 War of the Worlds
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Post by: Olivia Bauer on August 05, 2019, 12:59:00 PM
I could easily bring up Lucas and Shyamalan but that's a little easy, eh?

The most common reason for a good director making trash is the production studio interfering with the project.
Forcing directors to make changes they don't want and ultimately taking all control from them.

An easy example for this would be the third Sam Raimi Spider-Man movie.
The studio forced Raimi to shoehorn Venom into the story for some reason and made several other unwanted changes which turned the narrative into a huge mess.
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 05, 2019, 01:07:20 PM
I was trying to think of a bad movie by Kubrick- but I can't. I even liked BARRY LYDON and EYES WIDE SHUT.

http://youtu.be/SWCGZrIUNf0 (http://youtu.be/SWCGZrIUNf0)
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Post by: Olivia Bauer on August 05, 2019, 01:12:32 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on August 05, 2019, 01:07:20 PM
I was trying to think of a bad movie by Kubrick- but I can't. I even liked BARRY LYDON and EYES WIDE SHUT.

I haven't seen it, but what about Lolita? It's beloved by critics but I've heard it was subjected to heavy censorship and Kubrick was unhappy with the finished product.
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 05, 2019, 01:18:11 PM
Quote from: A.J. Bauer on August 05, 2019, 01:12:32 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on August 05, 2019, 01:07:20 PM
I was trying to think of a bad movie by Kubrick- but I can't. I even liked BARRY LYDON and EYES WIDE SHUT.

I haven't seen it, but what about Lolita? It's beloved by critics but I've heard it was subjected to heavy censorship and Kubrick was unhappy with the finished product.


I enjoyed it very much. Maybe he wasn't happy with it, but I was. It likely HAD to be censored, because of the subject matter, and this was only 1962!
But he was an artist. I wouldn't like it if someone f**ked with my s**t, either.
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Post by: Svengoolie 3 on August 05, 2019, 04:22:08 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on August 05, 2019, 01:18:11 PM
Quote from: A.J. Bauer on August 05, 2019, 01:12:32 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on August 05, 2019, 01:07:20 PM
I was trying to think of a bad movie by Kubrick- but I can't. I even liked BARRY LYDON and EYES WIDE SHUT.

I haven't seen it, but what about Lolita? It's beloved by critics but I've heard it was subjected to heavy censorship and Kubrick was unhappy with the finished product.


I enjoyed it very much. Maybe he wasn't happy with it, but I was. It likely HAD to be censored, because of the subject matter, and this was only 1962!
But he was an artist. I wouldn't like it if someone f**ked with my s**t, either.

If you like lolita have yoiu see poison ivy with drew barrymore?
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 05, 2019, 04:30:15 PM
No. I never cared for Drew Barrymore.
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Post by: Svengoolie 3 on August 05, 2019, 05:24:45 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on August 05, 2019, 04:30:15 PM
No. I never cared for Drew Barrymore.

Well,  it has some similarities to lolita in some ways.

BTW yeah I always thought she was an example of a totally out of control Hollywood kid. I'm amazed she didn't end up totally fubared, OD'd,  dead in a DUI or in jail.
Title: Re: BAD movies by GOOD directors.
Post by: bob on August 09, 2019, 07:30:03 PM
John Carpenter's Ghosts of Mars
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Post by: bob on August 12, 2019, 09:37:25 AM
Tim Burton directed the 2001 Planet of the Apes remake
Title: Re: BAD movies by GOOD directors.
Post by: Rev. Powell on August 12, 2019, 10:52:33 AM
Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on August 05, 2019, 05:24:45 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on August 05, 2019, 04:30:15 PM
No. I never cared for Drew Barrymore.

Well,  it has some similarities to lolita in some ways.


I don't know, man. Sorry, but saying LOLITA and POISON IVY are similar is kind of like saying CRIME AND PUNISHMENT and FRIDAY THE 13TH are similar, because they're both about murderers.
Title: Re: BAD movies by GOOD directors.
Post by: RCMerchant on August 12, 2019, 11:20:05 AM
Quote from: Rev. Powell on August 12, 2019, 10:52:33 AM
Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on August 05, 2019, 05:24:45 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on August 05, 2019, 04:30:15 PM
No. I never cared for Drew Barrymore.

Well,  it has some similarities to lolita in some ways.


I don't know, man. Sorry, but saying LOLITA and POISON IVY are similar is kind of like saying CRIME AND PUNISHMENT and FRIDAY THE 13TH are similar, because they're both about murderers.
Yeh. I agree 100%. LOITA is a classic.
I always thought Peter Sellers was perfect for his role. He was creepy.
Title: Re: BAD movies by GOOD directors.
Post by: Gabriel Knight on August 12, 2019, 01:59:08 PM
Quote from: bob on August 12, 2019, 09:37:25 AM
Tim Burton directed the 2001 Planet of the Apes remake

You know, I should add that one to my "guilty pleasures" list. I don't know why but I immensely enjoy that movie every time I rewatch it. I can't stand the sequels tho, which ironically a lot of people say they're great.
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Post by: bob on August 20, 2019, 03:13:52 PM
Peter Bogdanovich's At Long Last Love
Title: Re: BAD movies by GOOD directors.
Post by: bob on August 23, 2019, 02:00:18 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on August 05, 2019, 01:07:20 PM
I was trying to think of a bad movie by Kubrick- but I can't. I even liked BARRY LYDON and EYES WIDE SHUT.

http://youtu.be/SWCGZrIUNf0 (http://youtu.be/SWCGZrIUNf0)


The closest thing to a bad movie Kubrick made was Fear and Desire. Even then, I don't think it's fair to call it a bad movie. Is it as good as his other films, not even close. It's not even a professional film by him. It was made in 1953, when he was still making a living  directing movie shorts and documentaries primarily.
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Post by: dcj2112 on August 23, 2019, 04:07:03 PM
Quote from: bob on August 23, 2019, 02:00:18 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on August 05, 2019, 01:07:20 PM
I was trying to think of a bad movie by Kubrick- but I can't. I even liked BARRY LYDON and EYES WIDE SHUT.

http://youtu.be/SWCGZrIUNf0 (http://youtu.be/SWCGZrIUNf0)


The closest thing to a bad movie Kubrick made was Fear and Desire. Even then, I don't think it's fair to call it a bad movie. Is it as good as his other films, not even close. It's not even a professional film by him. It was made in 1953, when he was still making a living  directing movie shorts and documentaries primarily.

Has a clean print of this ever been released? The only version I've seen had distractingly bad video quality.
Title: Re: BAD movies by GOOD directors.
Post by: bob on August 23, 2019, 09:49:13 PM
Quote from: dcj2112 on August 23, 2019, 04:07:03 PM
Quote from: bob on August 23, 2019, 02:00:18 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on August 05, 2019, 01:07:20 PM
I was trying to think of a bad movie by Kubrick- but I can't. I even liked BARRY LYDON and EYES WIDE SHUT.

http://youtu.be/SWCGZrIUNf0 (http://youtu.be/SWCGZrIUNf0)


The closest thing to a bad movie Kubrick made was Fear and Desire. Even then, I don't think it's fair to call it a bad movie. Is it as good as his other films, not even close. It's not even a professional film by him. It was made in 1953, when he was still making a living  directing movie shorts and documentaries primarily.

Has a clean print of this ever been released? The only version I've seen had distractingly bad video quality.

Yup.

https://www.amazon.com/Fear-Desire-Blu-ray-Frank-Silvera/dp/B007K8ILUQ (https://www.amazon.com/Fear-Desire-Blu-ray-Frank-Silvera/dp/B007K8ILUQ)
Title: Re: BAD movies by GOOD directors.
Post by: dcj2112 on August 23, 2019, 11:04:41 PM
Quote from: bob on August 23, 2019, 09:49:13 PM
Quote from: dcj2112 on August 23, 2019, 04:07:03 PM
Quote from: bob on August 23, 2019, 02:00:18 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on August 05, 2019, 01:07:20 PM
I was trying to think of a bad movie by Kubrick- but I can't. I even liked BARRY LYDON and EYES WIDE SHUT.

http://youtu.be/SWCGZrIUNf0 (http://youtu.be/SWCGZrIUNf0)


The closest thing to a bad movie Kubrick made was Fear and Desire. Even then, I don't think it's fair to call it a bad movie. Is it as good as his other films, not even close. It's not even a professional film by him. It was made in 1953, when he was still making a living  directing movie shorts and documentaries primarily.

Has a clean print of this ever been released? The only version I've seen had distractingly bad video quality.

Yup.

https://www.amazon.com/Fear-Desire-Blu-ray-Frank-Silvera/dp/B007K8ILUQ (https://www.amazon.com/Fear-Desire-Blu-ray-Frank-Silvera/dp/B007K8ILUQ)

Very cool! I'd definitely watch it if I got it as a gift, but I wouldn't pay $22.99 for it.
Title: Re: BAD movies by GOOD directors.
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on August 24, 2019, 05:01:55 PM
Quote from: bob on August 12, 2019, 09:37:25 AM
Tim Burton directed the 2001 Planet of the Apes remake

That reminds me of another of Tim Burton's films "Mars Attack." Despite all the acting talent in it, that is his one film I find unwatchable.
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Post by: bob on August 25, 2019, 09:53:21 AM
Mel Brooks is responsible for High Anxiety
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 25, 2019, 02:42:22 PM
Quote from: bob on August 25, 2019, 09:53:21 AM
Mel Brooks is responsible for High Anxiety
And MEN WITH TIGHTS.
In fact, I would say that after SILENT MOVIE (1976) he just went downhill. I think AIRPLANE kinda blew him out of the water. That and the NAKED GUN.
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Post by: Svengoolie 3 on August 25, 2019, 06:16:51 PM
Dracula dead and loving it was really awful.
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Post by: ER on August 25, 2019, 09:02:15 PM
Quote from: BoyScoutKevin on August 24, 2019, 05:01:55 PM
Quote from: bob on August 12, 2019, 09:37:25 AM
Tim Burton directed the 2001 Planet of the Apes remake

That reminds me of another of Tim Burton's films "Mars Attack." Despite all the acting talent in it, that is his one film I find unwatchable.
And Burton's Big Fish had none of the insouciant joy of its contemporary, Crossroads.
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Post by: Gabriel Knight on August 26, 2019, 05:58:30 AM
I feel really weird because I love a lot of the movies you guys are mentioning, lol. MARS ATTACK, MEN WITH TIGHTS (well, this one is just ok), NAKED GUN, AIRPLANE, those movies are so much fun.
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Post by: bob on August 26, 2019, 10:39:15 AM
I think Men in Tights is ok, I liked Dracula Dead and Loving It --- but I haven't seen it since I was in high school or the early 2000s