I watched the PBS documentary Inside The Vatican tonight (it's a few months old). It reminded me of how much I admire POPE FRANCIS. He's my hero.
I have a close friend who has faithfully served our country for 20 years, often at great personal cost.
That's my hero.
My Mom, definitely. Young at heart, active, lived through two horrible wars, the passing of two husbands and she raised me which was no walk in the park.
What does she say about this corona virus thing? "It's actually nothing, I've been through worse." :cheers:
Quote from: Allhallowsday on April 28, 2020, 10:32:42 PM
I watched the PBS documentary Inside The Vatican tonight (it's a few months old). It reminded me of how much I admire POPE FRANCIS. He's my hero.
I just wish Pope Francis would turn Catholic.
Me. In fact, I am sitting here signing photos of myself with "To me, with frank admiration."
Quote from: Alex on April 29, 2020, 02:24:22 PM
Me. In fact, I am sitting here signing photos of myself with "To me, with frank admiration."
:bouncegiggle:
You kill me!
Do I have a living hero? I dunno...Bela Lugosi's dead...
All my hero's are dead. Crazy Horse, Geronimo, Franklin Roosevelt,...eh.
http://youtu.be/YtLlmrrCajA (http://youtu.be/YtLlmrrCajA)
Quote from: ER on April 29, 2020, 01:03:06 PM
Quote from: Allhallowsday on April 28, 2020, 10:32:42 PM
I watched the PBS documentary Inside The Vatican tonight (it's a few months old). It reminded me of how much I admire POPE FRANCIS. He's my hero.
I just wish Pope Francis would turn Catholic.
The man has incomprehensible humility. Your comment is of the ilk of this Pope's critics, Italian, British, American. Meanwhile, church attendance continues to dwindle.
POPE FRANCIS realizes the Church must change in order to survive, anyone who will not embrace positive change is an elitist.
I would say Michael Collins.
https://phys.org/news/2019-07-apollo-astronauts-pad-years.html
Quote from: Allhallowsday on April 29, 2020, 02:40:10 PM
Quote from: ER on April 29, 2020, 01:03:06 PM
Quote from: Allhallowsday on April 28, 2020, 10:32:42 PM
I watched the PBS documentary Inside The Vatican tonight (it's a few months old). It reminded me of how much I admire POPE FRANCIS. He's my hero.
I just wish Pope Francis would turn Catholic.
The man has incomprehensible humility. Your comment is of the ilk of this Pope's critics, Italian, British, American. Meanwhile, church attendance continues to dwindle. POPE FRANCIS realizes the Church must change in order to survive, anyone who will not embrace positive change is an elitist.
I have to say I do like what I see of him. Seems to be what I think a christian should be.
Quote from: RCMerchant on April 29, 2020, 02:55:16 PM
I would say Michael Collins.
https://phys.org/news/2019-07-apollo-astronauts-pad-years.html
MICHAEL COLLINS is one of my heroes, along with his crewmate
BUZZ ALDRIN. :thumbup: :thumbup:
Quote from: Allhallowsday on April 29, 2020, 02:40:10 PM
Quote from: ER on April 29, 2020, 01:03:06 PM
Quote from: Allhallowsday on April 28, 2020, 10:32:42 PM
I watched the PBS documentary Inside The Vatican tonight (it's a few months old). It reminded me of how much I admire POPE FRANCIS. He's my hero.
I just wish Pope Francis would turn Catholic.
The man has incomprehensible humility. Your comment is of the ilk of this Pope's critics, Italian, British, American. Meanwhile, church attendance continues to dwindle. POPE FRANCIS realizes the Church must change in order to survive, anyone who will not embrace positive change is an elitist.
Humility alone is not a defense against criticism, nor is it a Christian's job to change to suit the opinions of the world; it is a Christian's duty to hold to Jesus' truth no matter what the world may want. There is a common misconception that Jesus did not judge others, when in fact Jesus most definitely did take strong stands against popular positions, and absolutely did tell people when they were doing wrong. Knowing someone is doing wrong does not release a Christian from his obligation to show kindness and charity toward a person or even toward an entire world, but a Christian is never free to follow another path just because society has made that path more popular. It takes tremendous courage to be a Christian.
And while I'm at it....
"I would say Michael Collins."
https://phys.org/news/2019-07-apollo-astronauts-pad-years.html
Oh, THAT Michael Collins! You scared me for a second, RC, I thought you meant Michael Collins the Irish terrorist, and I was going to point out that he's dead. Shows where my mind rests. :question:
Quote from: ER on April 30, 2020, 08:53:24 AM
...Humility alone is not a defense against criticism, nor is it a Christian's job to change to suit the opinions of the world; it is a Christian's duty to hold to Jesus' truth no matter what the world may want. There is a common misconception that Jesus did not judge others, when in fact Jesus most definitely did take strong stands against popular positions, and absolutely did tell people when they were doing wrong. Knowing someone is doing wrong does not release a Christian from his obligation to show kindness and charity toward a person or even toward an entire world, but a Christian is never free to follow another path just because society has made that path more popular. It takes tremendous courage to be a Christian.
...
Who needs to be defended against criticism? Who defended Jesus?
I believe the Christian's job is humility, charity, forgiveness and love. Change is inevitable, adaptation is necessary.
POPE FRANCIS is not changing the truth, but an interpretation of practice.
I see nothing anti-Catholic in
POPE FRANCIS' actions. I see the fulfillment of high Christian ideals. You've got a flip-flop going on there, too ("Knowing someone is doing wrong does not release a Christian from his obligation to show kindness and charity...) You know the Church needs to adapt. You are obfuscating again, a practice popular in the USA these days.
Quote from: Allhallowsday on April 30, 2020, 12:53:54 PM
Quote from: ER on April 30, 2020, 08:53:24 AM
...Humility alone is not a defense against criticism, nor is it a Christian's job to change to suit the opinions of the world; it is a Christian's duty to hold to Jesus' truth no matter what the world may want. There is a common misconception that Jesus did not judge others, when in fact Jesus most definitely did take strong stands against popular positions, and absolutely did tell people when they were doing wrong. Knowing someone is doing wrong does not release a Christian from his obligation to show kindness and charity toward a person or even toward an entire world, but a Christian is never free to follow another path just because society has made that path more popular. It takes tremendous courage to be a Christian.
...
Who needs to be defended against criticism? Who defended Jesus?
I believe the Christian's job is humility, charity, forgiveness and love. Change is inevitable, adaptation is necessary. POPE FRANCIS is not changing the truth, but an interpretation of practice.
I see nothing anti-Catholic in POPE FRANCIS' actions. I see the fulfillment of high Christian ideals. You've got a flip-flop going on there, too ("Knowing someone is doing wrong does not release a Christian from his obligation to show kindness and charity...) You know the Church needs to adapt. You are obfuscating again, a practice popular in the USA these days.
John, sincere question. You ever been tested for autism? I've long thought that about you, not the least of which when something can be plainly stated and it eludes you to the point you refer to it as obfuscated.
Read some Chesterton sometime on the subject of the immutability of truth.
One doctrine of Church teaching clarified in the Counter Reformation is that a Pope's authority does not exceed Church doctrine, this was codified under Paul IV in the 16th century, and reiterated at the First Vatican Council in the 1870s. Should a Pope espouse heresy he loses office. (This is known as
sedvacatism, or "empty chair".) I will not go as far as to say Francis has espoused heresy (many do) but I will say there are limits to the changes any Pope may bring about.
(I had to take a semester of Canon Law in high school taught by a Jesuit canon lawyer who studied in Rome. I got an A, by the way, and since I once learned it, being me and being afflicted by parahyperthymesia, I cannot unlearn it or forget it.)
Pope Francis is a kind man, much in the way Jimmy Carter was a kind President, but there are limits to his powers, and even should these changes be
ex-cathedra, and endorsed by the College of Cardinals, they can still be heretical and not infallible.
I don't have a dog in the fight, despite my taking up this subject, but the laws of the Catholic Church fascinate me.
And I do wish you'd quit saying something is "obfuscated" just because your mind won't comprehend it.
Quote from: ER on April 30, 2020, 12:55:25 PM
John, sincere question. You ever been tested for autism? I've long thought that about you, not the least of which when something can be plainly stated and it eludes you to the point you refer to it as obfuscated.
You would not want to know what I've "long thought" about you, except you debate like a bully.
Quote from: ER on April 30, 2020, 12:55:25 PM
Read some Chesterton sometime on the subject of the immutability of truth.
One doctrine of Church teaching clarified in the Counter Reformation is that a Pope's authority does not exceed Church doctrine, this was codified under Paul IV in the 16th century, and reiterated at the First Vatican Council in the 1870s. Should a Pope espouse heresy he loses office. (This is known as sedvacatism, or "empty chair".) I will not go as far as to say Francis has espoused heresy (many do) but I will say there are limits to the changes any Pope may bring about.
...And I do wish you'd quit saying something is "obfuscated" just because your mind won't comprehend it.
I assert "obfuscation" because that is exactly what you've done. I am not going to assert my ability to learn and understand as you do, I have self confidence. It is not necessary for me to reach for insults in a debate; one only does that with doubts.
this made me think of " We need a living passion, to believe in..." David Hasselhoff song
Quote from: Allhallowsday on April 30, 2020, 01:28:27 PM
Quote from: ER on April 30, 2020, 12:55:25 PM
John, sincere question. You ever been tested for autism? I've long thought that about you, not the least of which when something can be plainly stated and it eludes you to the point you refer to it as obfuscated.
You would not want to know what I've "long thought" about you, except you debate like a bully.
Quote from: ER on April 30, 2020, 12:55:25 PM
Read some Chesterton sometime on the subject of the immutability of truth.
One doctrine of Church teaching clarified in the Counter Reformation is that a Pope's authority does not exceed Church doctrine, this was codified under Paul IV in the 16th century, and reiterated at the First Vatican Council in the 1870s. Should a Pope espouse heresy he loses office. (This is known as sedvacatism, or "empty chair".) I will not go as far as to say Francis has espoused heresy (many do) but I will say there are limits to the changes any Pope may bring about.
...And I do wish you'd quit saying something is "obfuscated" just because your mind won't comprehend it.
I assert "obfuscation" because that is exactly what you've done. I am not going to assert my ability to learn and understand as you do, I have self confidence. It is not necessary for me to reach for insults in a debate; one only does that with doubts.
Insult? So people with autism are....what are you saying about autism and those with it if you consider it insulting to think you might have it?
It's not that I don't respect your views on your hero, it's that it gets insulting to be told I am obfuscating when I am being as clear as I can be. It's just you that can't get things, John, and if you have some issue, I'm not going to kick you for it or make fun of you, but I reserve the right to wonder about whether you have the condition because many of your responses and takes on things over the years have left me with the view that you likely do fall somewhere on the autism scale, like Asperger maybe.
If you find this Pope worthy of imitation and he makes you a better person, great. Me, I think he needs to become Catholic one of these days.
I don't need a living hero, all I need is life Beyond Thunderdome...
http://youtu.be/Gcm-tOGiva0 (http://youtu.be/Gcm-tOGiva0)
Quote from: ER on April 30, 2020, 01:31:32 PM
...Insult? So people with autism are....what are you saying about autism and those with it if you consider it insulting to think you might have it?
No. You are insulting to presume a diagnosis of a person you don't know from Adam. Even if you were an MD.
Quote from: ER on April 30, 2020, 01:31:32 PM
...It's not that I don't respect your views on your hero, it's that it gets insulting to be told I am obfuscating when I am being as clear as I can be. It's just you that can't get things, John, and if you have some issue, I'm not going to kick you for it or make fun of you, but I reserve the right to wonder about whether you have the condition because many of your responses and takes on things over the years have left me with the view that you likely do fall somewhere on the autism scale, like Asperger maybe.
Insult. :thumbup: :lookingup:
Quote from: ER on April 30, 2020, 01:31:32 PM
If you find this Pope worthy of imitation and he makes you a better person, great. Me, I think he needs to become Catholic one of these days.
Your first two assertions are examples of obfuscation. This last is your reiteration of your insult to the Pope. Insult, obfuscation. Each your
modus operandi.
ER,
You waded into this thread not with an example but a swipe at mine. You choose not to be diplomatic, but combative.
i have 3 living heroes. my baby sister, my best friend and my husband, all for different reasons.
Governor of New York ANDREW CUOMO. :thumbup:
and gavin too!
ROBERT DeNIRO
http://youtu.be/1zNr8Pf1QkY (http://youtu.be/1zNr8Pf1QkY)
http://youtu.be/EPO9WmkHYEw (http://youtu.be/EPO9WmkHYEw)
My greatest hero passed away three years ago today.
Miss you, Dad! :bluesad:
Me sweetie Tiana. She's a RNA working at a nursing home.
ALL the health care workers everywhere.
It disgusts me to see stupid f**kers run around at the state capitol- with GUNS!- facing down health workers. It's sickening. They call other folks who don't follow their buddy Trump as 'snowflakes' and 'chicken littles', yet they seem to b***h and moan and cry if things don't go their way more than any other group. We're all in this together .
Quote from: RCMerchant on May 04, 2020, 01:47:42 PM
Me sweetie Tiana. She's a RNA working at a nursing home.
ALL the health care workers everywhere.
It disgusts me to see stupid f**kers run around at the state capitol- with GUNS!- facing down health workers. It's sickening. They call other folks who don't follow their buddy Trump as 'snowflakes', yet they seem to b***h and moan and cry if things don't go their way more than any other group. We're all in this together .
It's just logic. Now you know why you are my Man. :thumbup:
KEITH RICHARDS
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/925768757716373504/3SwABEqS_400x400.jpg)
Gary Lineker.
Quote from: Allhallowsday on May 30, 2020, 10:19:11 PM
KEITH RICHARDS
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/925768757716373504/3SwABEqS_400x400.jpg)
I have a Bill Hicks dvd where he is joking about the fact that it's a miracle Keith Richards is somehow still alive - the show was filmed in 1989
a couple of years ago I watched a documentary about him, must've been a fairly recent one... although I'm not the biggest Stones fan he came across as a really genuine guy. obsessed with authentic old blues artists. you could tell he was real, not a phoney