Which I'm gonna ask!
Who do you think is going to win the election?
I voted for Zacherly, myself! :drink:
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I actually didn't vote at all. I regestired- for the first time in my whole life. But I had no way to get to a ballot box. I drive a tractor to the store and back.
So don't blame me who wins or looses! :twirl:
I filled out "Jean-Claude Van Damme" Godzilla was not on the ticket :thumbup:
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Quote from: VenomX73 on November 04, 2020, 06:51:58 PM
I filled out "Jean-Claude Van Damme" Godzilla was not on the ticket :thumbup:
He was once upon a time!
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@RC at least your fellow jughead Michiganders appear to have, very marginally, voted down El Cheetoh.
(recall that I grew up in Mason, MI)
Well, it's closer than I would have liked, but I think Biden is gonna pull it out.
Quote from: Zapranoth on November 04, 2020, 07:31:33 PM
@RC at least your fellow jughead Michiganders appear to have, very marginally, voted down El Cheetoh.
(recall that I grew up in Mason, MI)
Zap! :buggedout:
I'm a jughead? Maybe, baby,! only because of this-! :wink:
Let's put it this way. I didn't vote!
http://youtu.be/vtkflEaeGjo (http://youtu.be/vtkflEaeGjo)
We may be drunk, but we're not all stupid! :drink:
Jughead's are like the pothead in Archie comics.
that's strange... PA is climbing, changing fast...
T 51.07% B 47.79%
people on the edge of seats man lol
Quote from: VenomX73 on November 04, 2020, 08:02:40 PM
that's strange... PA is climbing, changing fast...
T 51.07% B 47.79%
people on the edge of seats man lol
My toilet seat! :twirl:
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I'm playing man. :drink:
It's like the most boring boxing match ever.
LMAO! :bouncegiggle:
If theirs a fight I wanna see someone's head blow up! Across a room! With a basketball!
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I don't care which side does it- as long as somebody does it!
Electoral votes right now:
JOE BIDEN : 264
trump : 214
270 are necessary to win.
Quote from: Allhallowsday on November 04, 2020, 08:40:56 PM
Electoral votes right now:
JOE BIDEN : 264
trump : 214
270 are necessary to win.
I noticed I'm s**tting less. :drink:
Or more. :bluesad:
Because Trump supporters are gonna go apes**t.
The fun has just begun!
Dollars to donuts!
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that GIF is from Deadly Friend (1986), I haven't seen that movie in years! :thumbup:
I kinda figure this s**t is kinda done one way or another!
( This is still one of the coolest things I ever seen!)
http://youtu.be/8b_zIy97FyE (http://youtu.be/8b_zIy97FyE)
how this is all going... I think David said it best - here at 0:57
http://youtu.be/9o8gzua-K_E (http://youtu.be/9o8gzua-K_E)
fun huh?
Quote from: RCMerchant on November 04, 2020, 09:19:42 PM
I kinda figure this s**t is kinda done one way or another!
( This is still one of the coolest things I ever seen!)
http://youtu.be/8b_zIy97FyE (http://youtu.be/8b_zIy97FyE)
Absolutely one of my favorite
BELA moments; expressing what I might've thought myself! :teddyr:
That is from
GLEN OR GLENDA? isn't it?
Quote from: Allhallowsday on November 04, 2020, 09:46:29 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on November 04, 2020, 09:19:42 PM
I kinda figure this s**t is kinda done one way or another!
( This is still one of the coolest things I ever seen!)
http://youtu.be/8b_zIy97FyE (http://youtu.be/8b_zIy97FyE)
Absolutely one of my favorite BELA moments; expressing what I might've thought myself! :teddyr:
That is from GLEN OR GLENDA? isn't it?
Yes.
You guys should have voted for me as I always seem to get things done. :teddyr:
:bluesad: :bluesad: :bluesad:
http://youtu.be/c7T2BzVzrxA (http://youtu.be/c7T2BzVzrxA)
Eric B. & Rakim :thumbup:
I had the cassettes tapes in my Walkman lol
they really saved rap. it had degenerated into The Fat Boys and mainstream parodies
Yup. I also liked early Run DMC
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Quote from: Trevor on November 04, 2020, 11:15:14 PM
You guys should have voted for me as I always seem to get things done. :teddyr:
That depends highly on your position regarding the wearing of used undies.
Quote from: lester1/2jr on November 05, 2020, 01:16:47 PM
they really saved rap. it had degenerated into The Fat Boys and mainstream parodies
I don't know... I guess that's fair, but there is
DE LA SOUL,
N.W.A. or
BEASTIE BOYS...
PUBLIC ENEMY or
BIZ MARKIE!
^The SUGAR HILL GANG just about single handed made rap a music genre that would end up being one of the most popular on the planet.
I always liked George Carlin's Why I don't Vote :bouncegiggle:
http://youtu.be/qxsQ7jJJcEA (http://youtu.be/qxsQ7jJJcEA)
...and on elections...
http://youtu.be/KVJI3HHsWyg (http://youtu.be/KVJI3HHsWyg)
Quote from: RCMerchant on November 05, 2020, 03:04:16 PM
^The SUGAR HILL GANG just about single handed made rap a music genre that would end up being one of the most popular on the planet.
Uh huh.
BUT, the boys were talking about later 80s Hip hop and that's why I cited the artists I did, contemporaries that all did a little bit of "saving". The boys were talking 'bout
SAVING Rap not creating it.
Quote from: RCMerchant on November 05, 2020, 03:04:16 PM
^The SUGAR HILL GANG just about single handed made rap a music genre that would end up being one of the most popular on the planet.
Bastards. :thumbdown: :hatred:
^ I like lots of rap music.
I prefer "hippy" music lately.
Did none of you vote Howard?
(https://i.imgur.com/249Szli.jpg)
^I didn't know Bernie Wrightson drew Howard the Duck! :buggedout:
Eric Trump Busted For Fake Video Of Someone 'Burning 80 Trump Ballots
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/eric-trump-fake-ballot-burning-video-074218729.html (https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/eric-trump-fake-ballot-burning-video-074218729.html)
These shmucks are carnival hucksters. The Trump campaign. It's so much nonsense.
"They're stealing the election!"
Meanwhile- openly trying to steal the election. :lookingup:
George Carlin was awesome! He knew!
I think there will be a recount and Trump will win, I'm not picking sides, We're ALL in this together...
I just think that's what will happen - any thoughts? or is that crazy?
sorry for the typos, I got to learn how to spell, huh? lol gezzzz
Quote from: VenomX73 on November 06, 2020, 06:48:31 PM
I think there will be a recount and Trump will win, I'm not picking sides, We're ALL in this together...
I just think that's what will happen - any thoughts? or is that crazy?
...
Of course you're picking a side. :lookingup:
Just in!
Biden won! :buggedout:
I't over! He won Pennslyvania.
273 electoral votes. All he needed was 270.
Quote from: RCMerchant on November 07, 2020, 11:46:32 AM
Just in!
Biden won! :buggedout:
I't over! He won Pennslyvania.
273 electoral votes. All he needed was 270.
Congratulations!
Hallelujia
The bad news is Trump's 2024 presidential campaign starts today.
Nevada has finally finished counting. That puts Biden at 290 votes.
QuoteThe bad news is Trump's 2024 presidential campaign starts today.
Trump made a lot of enemies. I think he's going to be too tide up with the people that he owes money too collecting their debts and lawsuits to do much campaigning. That is, unless he just runs, hides, and disappears.
http://youtu.be/Th5uVIhQ8VY (http://youtu.be/Th5uVIhQ8VY)
I had a passenger from Germany yesterday and she was talking about how crazy the election was.
I explained that basically the US is an electionocracy. the whole purpose of our lives is to get our side into the white house just to do it. No one really cares all that much about the policies.
Quote from: lester1/2jr on November 07, 2020, 01:23:43 PM
I had a passenger from Germany yesterday and she was talking about how crazy the election was.
I explained that basically the US is an electionocracy. the whole purpose of our lives is to get our side into the white house just to do it. No one really cares all that much about the policies.
Really? Speak for yourself. You don't care about policies?
So, why do you like Trump? Because of his charming personality? :question:
what were some of the policies you didn't like? they were all the same as all the people before him, more or ess
I didn't like he quit the Paris Climate Accord, I don't like him removing children from their parents at the border, I don't like his racism in general, I don't like his tax cuts for the very rich. I don't like his 24-7 lying. Even about stupid s**t. I don't like his ignorance of common historical events.
I could go on and on.
But I won't because he's ka-put!
I don't have to worry about him.
Well, yes I do. There's gonna be a lot p**sed off stupid rednecks doing stupid s**t in the months and years to come.
I'm a redneck. But I don't consider myself a stupid redneck. :drink:
I live in Michigan, and we got lot's of Neo-Military Militias around here.
They tried to kidnap Gov. Whitmer!
And just plain old fashioned Nazis!
And I live with a black woman.
Now, nobody here in sleepy Lawton makes any fuss. We're all in Lawon. Nothing much goes on. Not even meth labs to much anymore.
But still- there are some people driving around in high priced 4 wheel drives with gigantic TRUMP 2020 flags. and some yards will have 5 or 6 Trump signs in the yard.
I ain't gonna put a sign in my yard except on Halloween! :thumbup:
I don't believe in advocating someone I never met in person, no matter who it is. I don't know why I regestired to vote this year, because I already kew I wasn't going to. But Tiana made sure I did.
I'm glad she did, but my son Jed was at work, and the nearest booths were in Mattawan. My transportation is a small tractor. I go to the store. I go home. The cops don't me running it around like A.J.Foyt!
What were we talking about?
So, yeah. I'm worried. :bluesad:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmPhazWVgAAj9TO?format=jpg&name=small)
Quote from: lester1/2jr on November 07, 2020, 01:58:53 PM
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That's a great set-up! Look how cool he looks!
Being adored by black people!
I noticed Kanye West is right up front! And lots of those folks are his buddies.
Not Trump's. Kanye's.
I don't think thats kanye west. even hes not that weird
Quote from: lester1/2jr on November 07, 2020, 02:11:57 PM
I don't think thats kanye west. even hes not that weird
Weird is putting it lightly. It's like wax museum weird! :bouncegiggle: :thumbup:
I dunno...the guy to Trumps right looks kinda like Con-oops! Kanye!
That pic is manipulative and dishonest. trump has a history of discrimination in his own life that included a Federal lawsuit that charged him with discriminatory practises (just like his dad - dud). ROY COHN worked out a deal with the feds, was trumps mentor and model, and one of the most notorious cheating liars of the 20th century.
They're touching Him like ...I don't know? :question:
EDIT: Yes I do! Like a John Holmes video cover!
you know who I'd like to see get into the white house...
(https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/postandcourier.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/b/c2/bc2237a6-c038-11e9-940f-1b44a4174d4a/5d56c8d1dc6d2.image.png?resize=890%2C630)
Jesse Ventura. I'd vote for him in a second! I'm serious.
Quote
That pic is manipulative and dishonest
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-increases-share-black-hispanic-vote-1544698 (https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-increases-share-black-hispanic-vote-1544698)
Quote from: lester1/2jr on November 07, 2020, 11:42:55 PM
Quote
That pic is manipulative and dishonest
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-increases-share-black-hispanic-vote-1544698 (https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-increases-share-black-hispanic-vote-1544698)
Yeh? And? Percentage points impress you? You work for him? You think that picture is honest? You don't want to acknowledge he's a racist? I'll help you: He is.
Just to lighten things up a bit-
Here's Trump Sabbath!
http://youtu.be/6rBb_n6JJYY (http://youtu.be/6rBb_n6JJYY)
allhallows - well obviously various peoples of color don't feel that way because he did better with them the second time around
Here's an unasked question: Who picks out blind people's clothes?
What if they were mad and dressed you in a hot pink T-shirt that say's "I'm with stupid" but your alone, and Sponge Bob PJ bottoms?
So your in a shopping mall slamming around a cane and not knowing that people are staring at you.
Quote from: lester1/2jr on November 08, 2020, 12:31:37 PM
allhallows - well obviously various peoples of color don't feel that way because he did better with them the second time around
... And you're impressed by percentage points? Money was a motivating factor for many voters, regardless of race.
If I can add something- it's not gonna make any difference one way of the other.
Biden is President.
Nothing else matters. Lets just be happy! :smile:
Or unhappy- if your Lester. Cheer up, Lester! I don't think anything groundbreaking is going to happen that will disrupt your life. Everything is going to be just fiiiine...
Juuust fiiiine...
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George W. Bush congratulates Biden on win and his 'patriotic' victory speech
[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/george-w-bush-biden-trump-statement-181429383.html]https://www.yahoo.com/news/george-w-bush-biden-trump-statement-181429383.html]
[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/george-w-bush-biden-trump-statement-181429383.html (http://[url=https://www.yahoo.com/news/george-w-bush-biden-trump-statement-181429383.html)[/url]
"No matter how you voted, your vote counted," Bush said. "The American people can have confidence that this election was fundamentally fair, its integrity will be upheld, and its outcome is clear."
^ I once said that George W. Bush was the worst president we ever had. I was wrong.
But it really don't matter. It's done. Finis.
The Satanic cabal has the reigns!
Fire and doom will fall upon your head!
Or nothing will change at all. It will be just like every other day.
(https://i.imgur.com/1hMOI8i.jpg) (https://lunapic.com)
I never had some rich old guy in DC to help me my whole life. I don't expect it to happen any time soon.
And if anybody has that much invested in somebody who you have never met to bail you out of whatever is ailing you- go to church.
Might help. You never know!
Might help!
http://youtu.be/ygcenTULapg (http://youtu.be/ygcenTULapg)
Quote from: RCMerchant on November 08, 2020, 06:11:31 PM
^ I once said that George W. Bush was the worst president we ever had. I was wrong.
But it really don't matter. It's done. Finis.
The Satanic cabal has the reigns!
Fire and doom will fall upon your head!
Or nothing will change at all. It will be just like every other day.
(https://i.imgur.com/1hMOI8i.jpg) (https://lunapic.com)
I never had some rich old guy in DC to help me my whole life. I don't expect it to happen any time soon.
And if anybody has that much invested in somebody who you never meet to bail you out of whatever is ailing you- go to church.
Might help. You never know!
Might help!
http://youtu.be/ygcenTULapg (http://youtu.be/ygcenTULapg)
Wtf? :lookingup:
^ that's real. That's the President's spiritual adviser praying for his re-election- or something? Not really sure what she is trying to achieve here.
If I did that on Main Street standing on a fruit crate, I would be hauled off to the funny farm.
Quote from: RCMerchant on November 08, 2020, 06:54:40 PM
^ that's real. That's the President's spiritual adviser praying for his reelection- what ever the f**k that is.
If I did that on Main Street standing on a fruit crate, I would be hauled off to the funny farm.
:bouncegiggle: Listen, it's like... who's your audience? BTW that person is not even 2 minutes and she is TOO long. Idiot. :bouncegiggle:
I just trust all will go well for the USA and its' people - especially you guys - in the new government. :smile:
Weird. I always read the thread title as The unmasked question!
Something that kinda got lost in all the hubbub, is that pot is now legal in 4 more states! :thumbup:
I know this may sound trivial to many folks, but myself. I think it saved my life. After my 4th heart surgery- I couldn't do the factory work I was doing and always been doing, besides working at farms. So I quit and spent 4 1/2 years trying to get Disability.
So now I sit around most of the day alone (Tiana works from 2 in the afternoon untill 11:30 at night at the nursing home. So I read, drive the tractor to the store, buy whiskey for me and tea for Tiana, and go home.
Pot saved me from drinking myself to death.
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New Jersey, Arizona, Montana, and North Dakota!
Well, I personally am celebrating!
(https://i.imgur.com/BNZ2PUv.gif) (https://lunapic.com)
I do rides to dispensaries all the time. I have no problem with it. the big problem I think is doctors prescribing oxycontin to unsuspecting people who then get hooked on it, because its like medically produced to be incredible.
I had 5 of them when I destroyed my ankle skateboarding. I could feel the chemistry. s**t is DANGEROUS
Just in case you want to report voter fraud call this number to the Trump Campain (no- I meant to spell it that way)-
808-503-3526! Have fun! :twirl:
Quote from: lester1/2jr on November 09, 2020, 11:10:50 PM
I do rides to dispensaries all the time. I have no problem with it. the big problem I think is doctors prescribing oxycontin to unsuspecting people who then get hooked on it, because its like medically produced to be incredible.
I had 5 of them when I destroyed my ankle skateboarding. I could feel the chemistry. s**t is DANGEROUS
I'm worried that the backlash against opiates has gone too far and they will be denying them to people who actually need them out of fear of addiction/liability. I have minor surgery coming up and they damn well better give me painkillers.
I'm sure they will. The people who get opiates mostly do it threw false prescriptions at phony doctors who set up clinics. My first wife Gail just steals it from old people. She's a scumbag. They had a clinic in Florida that had lines going around the block which stayed open until past midnight. She was arrested.
Gail shots it up her arm. Her arms look like railroad tracks.
https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2019/11/26/south-florida-pain-management-doctor-sentenced-17-12-years-prison (https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2019/11/26/south-florida-pain-management-doctor-sentenced-17-12-years-prison)
I was prescribed vicadins after all my heart surgery. I turned it down. I have enough addictions.
Here's an Email I got from Team Trump today!
Trump Pence Make America Great Again
"Ron,
The Radical Left is UNHINGED.
President Trump will easily WIN the Presidency of the United States with ONLY LEGAL votes cast, but Election observers are not being allowed to do their jobs. It's madness.
Every single Patriot from across the Nation must step up RIGHT NOW if we're going to successfully DEFEND the integrity of this Election. We need YOU to join the Election Defense Task Force.
Please contribute ANY AMOUNT immediately to join the Election Defense Task Force and to increase your impact by 1000%. >>"
They reason they call me 'Ron' is because I signed up long ago just to see what s**t they were spreading.
They been asking me for money all year- even when I send back nonsensical responses. :bouncegiggle:
Nobody reads the s**t- they just want the checks! :twirl:
I noticed they changed the Fraud Hotline number for the 3d time! I trolled it, I must admit. I asked if they had Prince Albert in a can! I didn't go all serious- I just said the stupidest thing that came to mind.
My favorite line is-
"Please contribute ANY AMOUNT immediately to join the Election Defense Task Force and to increase your impact by 1000%."
Really? Is 1000 % really a thing? I think you can only go to 100%. So if I was some crazy hillbilly with a 'BBQ BEER FREEDOM' wife beater t-shirt, my vote will increase 1000 %? If said hillbilly has enough money to even afford his next 6-pack. So he gives Trump his pocket change. I reckon it may help him at McDonald's but not much further.
Quote from: RCMerchant on November 10, 2020, 02:57:06 PM
My favorite line is-
"Please contribute ANY AMOUNT immediately to join the Election Defense Task Force and to increase your impact by 1000%."
Just a note about this: if you donate to Trump's legal defense, 60% of funds go to pay off the campaign's debt rather than towards the legal challenges, per his own fundraising emails. https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-flurry-campaign-defense-fund-094844061.html
I'm not trying to be partisan here, but anyone hoping to fund legal challenges should know that most of the money they give isn't going to be spent that way.
Quote from: Rev. Powell on November 10, 2020, 03:21:23 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on November 10, 2020, 02:57:06 PM
My favorite line is-
"Please contribute ANY AMOUNT immediately to join the Election Defense Task Force and to increase your impact by 1000%."
Just a note about this: if you donate to Trump's legal defense, 60% of funds go to pay off the campaign's debt rather than towards the legal challenges, per his own fundraising emails. https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-flurry-campaign-defense-fund-094844061.html
I'm not trying to be partisan here, but anyone hoping to fund legal challenges should know that most of the money they give isn't going to be spent that way.
Sickening, ain't it?
Ron, 1000% is real in a mathematical sense... whatever any amount given is is 100%. The implication is that trump's campaign will multiply your donation by 10... give $100 it magically becomes $1000; such might be achieved with a donor "match" of 1000%...
Quote from: Rev. Powell on November 10, 2020, 03:21:23 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on November 10, 2020, 02:57:06 PM
My favorite line is-
"Please contribute ANY AMOUNT immediately to join the Election Defense Task Force and to increase your impact by 1000%."
Just a note about this: if you donate to Trump's legal defense, 60% of funds go to pay off the campaign's debt rather than towards the legal challenges, per his own fundraising emails. https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-flurry-campaign-defense-fund-094844061.html
I'm not trying to be partisan here, but anyone hoping to fund legal challenges should know that most of the money they give isn't going to be spent that way.
Yeah- I read that too. The guy is going broke, and before he leaves office, I think he's going to try to pull a Götterdämmerung. He already started by firing folks in the Pentagon.
A satirical British show that I used to watch back in the '80s has returned recently. This is their take on trump.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxHd8JJ8hCU#)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5cAfGaBc0M#)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StoSQ-k67gE#)
They don't just mock trump though. I saw a clip of Boris Johnson summoning up the spirit of Thatcher. Hang around long enough and everyone gets mocked sooner or later. Still, compared to what 2DTV used to do, I'd say the subjects are actually getting off fairly lightly.
Quote from: Rev. Powell on November 10, 2020, 02:26:53 PM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on November 09, 2020, 11:10:50 PM
I do rides to dispensaries all the time. I have no problem with it. the big problem I think is doctors prescribing oxycontin to unsuspecting people who then get hooked on it, because its like medically produced to be incredible.
I had 5 of them when I destroyed my ankle skateboarding. I could feel the chemistry. s**t is DANGEROUS
I'm worried that the backlash against opiates has gone too far and they will be denying them to people who actually need them out of fear of addiction/liability. I have minor surgery coming up and they damn well better give me painkillers.
Rev, i do a lot of work in this -- I am one of the physicians in my group that in our way polices opioid prescribing and boundary-setting in general (by prescribers).
I am good at it, and I would come across as kindly but draconian to most chronic pain patients. For very good reasons.
There won't be backlash of significance against treatment of postoperative pain. We have been changing our guidelines so that orthopedists don't sling #100 tablets at all their patients as SOP, post-op. Many surgeons did this -- just wrote standard scripts so that whether you'd had a very painful procedure or a fairly non-painful one, everyone got whatever your post-op script, arbitrarily, was.
There are data about how what the norm should be for post-op prescribing for most patients, for given procedures. Implementing these data as norms will reduce how many pills are out in the community, by that outlet.
The main work is in reducing using opioids *at all* for chronic pain, for people who are not dying. There should be very, very little role for opioids in the non-dying population, so we have a ways to go there.
But we're working on it. It's a hard thing, for the people who got on a lot of opioids in the last 20+ years and now are being told that the doses need to come down.
Quote from: Zapranoth on November 11, 2020, 03:04:02 PM
Quote from: Rev. Powell on November 10, 2020, 02:26:53 PM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on November 09, 2020, 11:10:50 PM
I do rides to dispensaries all the time. I have no problem with it. the big problem I think is doctors prescribing oxycontin to unsuspecting people who then get hooked on it, because its like medically produced to be incredible.
I had 5 of them when I destroyed my ankle skateboarding. I could feel the chemistry. s**t is DANGEROUS
I'm worried that the backlash against opiates has gone too far and they will be denying them to people who actually need them out of fear of addiction/liability. I have minor surgery coming up and they damn well better give me painkillers.
Rev, i do a lot of work in this -- I am one of the physicians in my group that in our way polices opioid prescribing and boundary-setting in general (by prescribers).
I am good at it, and I would come across as kindly but draconian to most chronic pain patients. For very good reasons.
There won't be backlash of significance against treatment of postoperative pain. We have been changing our guidelines so that orthopedists don't sling #100 tablets at all their patients as SOP, post-op. Many surgeons did this -- just wrote standard scripts so that whether you'd had a very painful procedure or a fairly non-painful one, everyone got whatever your post-op script, arbitrarily, was.
There are data about how what the norm should be for post-op prescribing for most patients, for given procedures. Implementing these data as norms will reduce how many pills are out in the community, by that outlet.
The main work is in reducing using opioids *at all* for chronic pain, for people who are not dying. There should be very, very little role for opioids in the non-dying population, so we have a ways to go there.
But we're working on it. It's a hard thing, for the people who got on a lot of opioids in the last 20+ years and now are being told that the doses need to come down.
I trust you and your profession. If I had chronic pain, however, and opioids would stop it, I would certainly want them (and probably demand them). Being addicted would be a big negative, but to me constant pain sounds like a MUCH bigger negative. I am not a big fan of pain.
An effective, non-addictive strong painkiller is a sort of holy grail, I suppose. Some pharmaceutical company will make a bundle when they develop one.
No doubt doctors were overprescribing in the recent past, and often in bad faith. We just need to find the proper balance.
Quote from: Rev. Powell on November 11, 2020, 06:31:11 PM
I trust you and your profession. If I had chronic pain, however, and opioids would stop it, I would certainly want them (and probably demand them). Being addicted would be a big negative, but to me constant pain sounds like a MUCH bigger negative. I am not a big fan of pain.
An effective, non-addictive strong painkiller is a sort of holy grail, I suppose. Some pharmaceutical company will make a bundle when they develop one.
No doubt doctors were overprescribing in the recent past, and often in bad faith. We just need to find the proper balance.
The thing is, there isn't a study yet that shows that opioids for chronic nonmalignant pain are effective for long-term use.
None!
And then there's all the evidence for harm.
in a *very* select few patients chronic opioids seem to be helpful in supporting function. For the majority of people on them, they're a detriment.
What makes it worse is that even in people who don't have opioid use disorder, there is such strong psychological dependency. One particularly interesting study showed that patients on long-term opioids would accept *any* stated amount of increased risk (of death, accidental overdose and so on) to continue on their current regimens of meds.
*Any* amount of risk.
Which means that it's not an informed consent discussion. Not like when you go for surgery, or take a blood pressure med, or what have you. Because how can you give informed consent if the treatment causes dependency?
It's a real mess.
We're *very* far off of where we need to be, at least in the US.
Robert De Niro Issues Warning About The Person Donald Trump May Have Inspired
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/robert-de-niro-donald-trump-election-loss-111924559.html (https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/robert-de-niro-donald-trump-election-loss-111924559.html)
if you 've ever had morphine or percoset. those are like $10 bottles of wine and oxy is like $100
I have a friend who is not hte type at all who got hooked and started getting subscriptions from other doctors to keep it going longer
you see headlines "the opioid crisis" this is how many people became a part of it
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/latino-voters-who-fled-dictatorships-fear-election-was-stolen-from-president-trump/ar-BB1b5Up2?ocid=msedgdhp (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/latino-voters-who-fled-dictatorships-fear-election-was-stolen-from-president-trump/ar-BB1b5Up2?ocid=msedgdhp)
Latino voters who fled dictatorships fear election was stolen from President Trump
Romina Ruiz-Goiriena, USA TODAY 18 mins ago
Quote from: pacman000 on November 17, 2020, 05:57:39 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/latino-voters-who-fled-dictatorships-fear-election-was-stolen-from-president-trump/ar-BB1b5Up2?ocid=msedgdhp (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/latino-voters-who-fled-dictatorships-fear-election-was-stolen-from-president-trump/ar-BB1b5Up2?ocid=msedgdhp)
Latino voters who fled dictatorships fear election was stolen from President Trump
Romina Ruiz-Goiriena, USA TODAY 18 mins ago
Wizard's First Rule: People are stupid.
Quote from: Zapranoth on November 17, 2020, 07:47:58 PM
Quote from: pacman000 on November 17, 2020, 05:57:39 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/latino-voters-who-fled-dictatorships-fear-election-was-stolen-from-president-trump/ar-BB1b5Up2?ocid=msedgdhp (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/latino-voters-who-fled-dictatorships-fear-election-was-stolen-from-president-trump/ar-BB1b5Up2?ocid=msedgdhp)
Latino voters who fled dictatorships fear election was stolen from President Trump
Romina Ruiz-Goiriena, USA TODAY 18 mins ago
Wizard's First Rule: People are stupid.
In their defense, they come from dictatorships where stealing elections is plausible, even SOP. Native-born Americans, however, have no excuse for believing the election was rigged.
lots of Brazilians here in MA. waitresses at the local steakhouse
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmwlxM8XUAICpuA?format=png&name=small)
A lot of hispanics are very right wing in part because they are strongly Catholic but also because the leaders down there are very corrupt and mostly left wing. When they talk about them they don't talk about socialism they call them crooks and narco smugglers and so forth.
If you had to leave your country to clean toilets in the US you wold probably resent the status quo in your country
Quote from: Rev. Powell on November 17, 2020, 07:54:15 PM
Quote from: Zapranoth on November 17, 2020, 07:47:58 PM
Quote from: pacman000 on November 17, 2020, 05:57:39 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/latino-voters-who-fled-dictatorships-fear-election-was-stolen-from-president-trump/ar-BB1b5Up2?ocid=msedgdhp (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/latino-voters-who-fled-dictatorships-fear-election-was-stolen-from-president-trump/ar-BB1b5Up2?ocid=msedgdhp)
Latino voters who fled dictatorships fear election was stolen from President Trump
Romina Ruiz-Goiriena, USA TODAY 18 mins ago
Wizard's First Rule: People are stupid.
In their defense, they come from dictatorships where stealing elections is plausible, even SOP. Native-born Americans, however, have no excuse for believing the election was rigged.
^What he said. :thumbup:
Quote from: lester1/2jr on November 17, 2020, 11:46:17 PM
lots of Brazilians here in MA. waitresses at the local steakhouse
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmwlxM8XUAICpuA?format=png&name=small)
A lot of hispanics are very right wing in part because they are strongly Catholic but also because the leaders down there are very corrupt and mostly left wing. When they talk about them they don't talk about socialism they call them crooks and narco smugglers and so forth.
If you had to leave your country to clean toilets in the US you wold probably resent the status quo in your country
Again with the cute girls in the bar long ago...? :teddyr: :lookingup:
Ultimately dictators are neither left nor right by stripe; they're fascists!
except Pinochet
This makes me laugh or cry, depending on how much pot I smoke.
http://youtu.be/HKn85I_i9_g (http://youtu.be/HKn85I_i9_g)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEYbWVEURNo#)
A Not Unexpected Announcement
Something we knew for a while-
http://www.cnn.com/2020/11/23/politics/transition-biden-gsa-begin/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2020/11/23/politics/transition-biden-gsa-begin/index.html)
I wonder how many millions of people were unhappy REAGAN won...
I wonder how many millions of people were unhappy CLINTON won...
I wonder how many millions of people were unhappy BUSH won...
I wonder how many millions of people were unhappy OBAMA won...
Not once in my lifetime though, was our democracy undermined due to LIES by the President... until now. Loss is part of the political process; all true Americans know this.
Trump = Uncle Scam.
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/72563463/watch-for-my-new-reality-show-the-biggest-sore-loser.jpg)
This is just getting dangerous.
http://www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/politics/trump-oval-office-meeting-special-counsel-martial-law/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/politics/trump-oval-office-meeting-special-counsel-martial-law/index.html)
"Take back your State capitals," the post urged. "Find the homes of every Governor, mayor, attorney general, liberal judge, senator, congressman and every major media/social media CEO...find them, remove them from their sanctuary. Bring the nightmare to where they lay their heads and kiss their loved ones. Show them that they are NOT untouchable."
Virginia Deputy Fired After Far-Right Calls For Violence On Social Media
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/aaron-huffman-prince-william-county-deputy-fired-052334093.html (https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/aaron-huffman-prince-william-county-deputy-fired-052334093.html)
:hatred: :buggedout: :bluesad:
More Trump BS.
What a crybaby.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/donald-trump-brad-raffensperger-call-washington-post/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/donald-trump-brad-raffensperger-call-washington-post/index.html)
He should face criminal charges over this one!
Urging a state official to "find votes" is election tampering, and the veiled threats in the call amount to extortion.
Trump's 'less-than-perfect' call to Georgia officials could also be a crime
...Trump's actions could constitute election fraud. Section 52 of the U.S. Code concerns voting and elections, and provides for a sentence of up to five years for:
"A person, including an election official, who in any election for Federal office
(1) knowingly and willfully intimidates, threatens, or coerces, or attempts to intimidate, threaten, or coerce, any person for-
(A) registering to vote, or voting, or attempting to register or vote;
(B) urging or aiding any person to register to vote, to vote, or to attempt to register or vote; or
(C) exercising any right under this chapter; or
(2) knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process, by
(A) the procurement or submission of voter registration applications that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held; or
(B) the procurement, casting, or tabulation of ballots that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held."
Trump's citing possible criminal charges for Raffensperger unless he produces a different election result in Georgia could be seen as extortion, which section 18, chapter 41 of the U.S. code expressly prohibits...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-lessthanperfect-call-to-georgia-officials-could-also-be-a-crime-221455096.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-lessthanperfect-call-to-georgia-officials-could-also-be-a-crime-221455096.html)
I thought this would be over by now. :bluesad:
But of course it's not. He's going into the abyss of his gold plated hovel kicking and screaming like the spoiled brat he is.
He can cry and whine- but he can't hide from the charges in NY, or what might happen once he is discharged.
Unless he flees the country- which he already said he might do!
He sure can't go to Mexico! :lookingup:
http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/10/17/trump-leave-the-country-sot-macon-rally-nr-vpx.cnn (http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/10/17/trump-leave-the-country-sot-macon-rally-nr-vpx.cnn)
Amy Klobuchar To Ted Cruz And Other GOP Senators Blocking Biden Certification: 'Please Get A Grip'
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/amy-klobuchar-ted-cruz-please-get-a-grip-232537605.html (https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/amy-klobuchar-ted-cruz-please-get-a-grip-232537605.html)
The Cheneys take on Trump
"By objecting to electoral slates, members are unavoidably asserting that Congress has the authority to overturn elections and overrule state and federal courts. Such objections set an exceptionally dangerous precedent, threatening to steal states' explicit constitutional responsibility for choosing the President and bestowing it instead on Congress. This is directly at odds with the Constitution's clear text and our core beliefs as Republicans," Cheney wrote in the memo, which was published Sunday.
As for the proposal by Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, to form a commission to conduct "an emergency 10-day audit of the election returns," Cheney responded with barely concealed scorn.
"Did those proposing a new commission realize that they were in essence proposing to delay the inaugural? Did they mean to set up a new future precedent where the inaugural is delayed and we have an 'Acting President?' For how long? Who decides when that process is over? Will that require another Act of Congress? Could the Acting President veto any such future Congressional action? If Congress has authority to create such a commission now, are state elections, recounts and state law legal challenges just 'make-work' until Congress gets around to investigating and deciding who should be President?" Cheney wrote...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-cheneys-take-on-trump-013953508.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-cheneys-take-on-trump-013953508.html)
trump is going down in comical defeat and the whole election fraud thing was an ill advised farce ...but I'll still take him over the Cheneys anyday
Quote from: lester1/2jr on January 05, 2021, 10:53:12 PM
trump is going down in comical defeat and the whole election fraud thing was an ill advised farce ...but I'll still take him over the Cheneys anyday
Fortunately, that is not the question of the day.
And if by "ill-advised farce" you mean "crime against our country," well, I agree there.
Given what's happening right now, it's a little more destructive than an "ill-advised farce."
(https://i.imgur.com/ySpVa9H.jpg) (https://lunapic.com)
This has nothing to do with anything. But it made me laugh! :bouncegiggle: