I wasn't a fan of Rush Limbaugh but I admire rebels who push against the establishment, which he did.
Maybe at the beginning, but I'd say as the most popular radio personality of his day, he was the establishment.
I think conservatives are the rebels now. Our national situation mirrors late republican Rome in that regard. Augustus was a radical (reactionary if you prefer) because he was a traditionalist amid a society that was out of control, and I get that sense about traditionalists in the US today, that theirs is the only true rebellion left.
As I said I wasn't a fan of Limbaugh's, or at least not a listener, but I did have to smile at the way he upended the idea among those with platforms counter to his that they were the rebels, when they were insiders and Limbaugh was coming at them against the stream.
Anyway, he was what he was, he's dead, and in his own way I think he was something of an agent of free thought. (Sort of.)
In the time I started listening back in the mid '90s until now, he spent his time looking for just this right substitutes, & spawning a few copycats, a few of whom got real good & developed some staying power.....
I'd like to think the man started something that isn't going anywhere!!!
Quote from: LilCerberus on February 17, 2021, 03:50:54 PM
In the time I started listening back in the mid '90s until now, he spent his time looking for just this right substitutes, & spawning a few copycats, a few of whom got real good & developed some staying power.....
I'd like to think the man started something that isn't going anywhere!!!
Thankfully.
Why do you preach this guys BS if you know he's a phony?
I'm not trying to diss you- I'm just curious of your mind set.
I used to like it back in the '90s when he'd have guest hosts (the substitutes I referred to), like Dr Walter Williams, or Michael Medved....
Williams had ways of explaining to the layperson just how big an economy was, & how a seemingly simple act could screw it up...
Medved, a film critic, always fun & poignant....
Sometimes Rush would talk about the days he was doing jobs he hated that didn't pay his bills while surrounded by a bunch of rich people oblivious to the income gap.... It would make me feel a little better about my situation & give me hope...
Things started making sense after I discovered Rush....
As a Native American "brown person" myself, this is probably my favorite Rush Limbaugh quote because I did respect his valid point. :teddyr:
"Let's check the scoreboard. How many Native Americans were killed by the arrival of the white man through disease and war...how many people have died since the white man arrived due to lung cancer, thanks to the Indian custom of smoking? Who are the real killers here?...Where are our reparations? I'm just saying." - Rush Limbaugh, 2010
First time I ever heard of Rush, was on a short lived show called "Personalities"..... I recall the last lines in his interview being, "My book outsold Madonna's book, & My book's about what's right!"
Wasn't too much later, Rush tried his own TV show, & I decided to check it out.... I found it entertaining & informative....
This way, he way able to use a lot of visuals, pictures & videos, but after it was cancelled, he would explain on his radio show from time to time, just how much he loathed the amount of planning, prep, and lack of spontaneity that went with television...
There are some times I can't help thinking about how Rush Limbaugh really started to take off around the same time Sam Kinison was killed, and the media was looking for a new angry fat man to laugh with/at, only to discover, this guy was for real, & maybe they regretted it................
Pretty memorable moment from his TV show, Rush spots Bill Clinton pretending to cry at the funeral of Ron Brown.
http://youtu.be/lf8TOGrq8Bo (http://youtu.be/lf8TOGrq8Bo)
He was a baiting moron who made a living from spreading hate filled spew.
I'm glad he's dead. f**k him.
Quote from: zelmo73 on February 17, 2021, 05:22:05 PM
As a Native American "brown person" myself, this is probably my favorite Rush Limbaugh quote because I did respect his valid point. :teddyr:
"Let's check the scoreboard. How many Native Americans were killed by the arrival of the white man through disease and war...how many people have died since the white man arrived due to lung cancer, thanks to the Indian custom of smoking? Who are the real killers here?...Where are our reparations? I'm just saying." - Rush Limbaugh, 2010
"Illustrating Absurdity By being Absurd", he used to say.....
^ Good excuse to spout hateful rhetoric. :lookingup:
I listened to him a great deal in the 1990's, and he had some worthwhile and valid things to say once you got past all the bombast and the rhetoric.
But, over time, I found . . . he never really changed. Same talking points, day after day, same digs at the left. I don't think he was necessarily hateful in his personal life; he just loved controversy and the attention he got from saying outrageous things. But . . . I tired of him and moved on.
And frankly, none of his successors/copycats on the right could hold a candle.
He was a dickhead.
He was just another con artist playing on peoples fears. And making big time money off it.
f**k him.
He wasn't a patriot. He was a bull s**tter who made money off you.
What did he ever do beyond giving you a belly full of anger?
For Cerb-
The Beatles- Something
http://youtu.be/t1Jm5epJr10 (http://youtu.be/t1Jm5epJr10)
I didn't post this in the wrong thread. I posted it here.
Following any ideology blindly seems...useless. Where will it get you? Except a life full of resentment?
Not a good way to live, my friend. :bluesad:
The useless ideology drilled into my head by the public education system left me with a lifetime of resentment...
And this link lead to The Walrus, which, as I understand it, was one of John Lennon's songs about nothing other than being a nonsensical rhyme....
I'd rather listen to a stupid mellow song than crazy propaganda.
It has a better effect on my life. Don't seem like all your resentment is helping you.
I ain't against you, Cerb.
We are all stuck in this cesspool together.
http://youtu.be/CTsB-llTzyc (http://youtu.be/CTsB-llTzyc)
My resentment??? :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:
You're the only one on this thread who's had anything resentful to say...
Mellow out.
Me, I've been reminiscing...
Rush has been trying to prepare his entire audience for this day ever since he announced his diagnosis.
Not trying to stomp on anyone in this thread personally.
It's hard to think of anything about Rush except the racism, misogyny and so on. For me, at least.
How do people who admire his messages give him a pass on that part of what he said?
Cerb, I was trying to make peace.
You say goodbye, I say hello kinda thing.
http://youtu.be/rblYSKz_VnI (http://youtu.be/rblYSKz_VnI)
I really lost track of what you're defending.
OK. I'm done being nice. He was a modern day Joseph Goebbels.
Gimme a break.
( do you know how hard is to figure out how to type " Goebbels" ?)
It's hard. Try it.
Can you believe I never listened to his show?? I was a Howard Stern guy
Quote from: Zapranoth on February 17, 2021, 11:32:56 PM
Not trying to stomp on anyone in this thread personally.
It's hard to think of anything about Rush except the racism, misogyny and so on. For me, at least.
How do people who admire his messages give him a pass on that part of what he said?
by thinking he was a rebel?
A couple quotes from a couple of friends:
"Sorry for the loss of Rush Limbaugh. I was a slow fan...."no I can't listen to him, the arrogance etc". Then I learned he was an amazing educator and taught me much about the Constitution, and more importantly shared the ins and outs of what our legislators had said past and now present - amazing memory. I am sure they HATED him for this. He would hold them accountable for their words and positions. I always listened to his perspective when something BIG happened in politics.....and found his analysis enlightening. As I said, I was a slow fan. He gave a voice to many people and was a huge blessing to many others with his charitable contributions. His articulation of conservatism will always be appreciated. He will be missed."
"I appreciated how often he would address people's criticism of him, as well as their misquotes. The man's mind was a steel trap, and he would often play clips of his misquotes in full so his audience could decide for themselves who to believe. He was an easy target for the left and I've honestly been shocked to see some of my friends celebrate his death. I didn't even celebrate when they caught and killed UBL, and if there was ever an evil man in our generation... Death is a somber event, whether you politically disagree with them or not. RBG got respect from all sides upon her death - Rush should receive the same. He also devoted his life to constitutional truth and worked for the people's good. That's my 2 cents on it."
f**k him. He was a con man.
I ain't saying that because I'm a Democrat. I don't trust these dicksuckers either.
I just listen to all this contrived bulls**t and think "f**k it!"
I consider my self what some folks label an "anarchist."
Translate that I think f**king everything is stupid.
I just think it's all bulls**t.
Don't get me wrong. I enjoy the f**k out of life! I love life! :cheers:
I don't enjoy politics.
From retired journalist Mark Holmberg
"To all my leftist friends celebrating the ultimate cancellation of talk radio legend Rush Limbaugh with your "rot in hell" and "rest in p**s" rants:
Even though there has always been a left and right wing in this country - and we need both to fly right - you are completely intolerant of any views other than your own.
You're worse than spoiled brats. You are entitled dictators opposed to free speech and legitimate debate.
When Rush came on the scene in the late '80s, our news media was already dominated by liberal, progressive and socialistic ideologies, from the front-page and prime-time "news" stories to the editorial and op-ed pages.
Victimology was front-and-center (as it is today), while working hard to overcome was fading from our cultural backbone. (Fictitious but telling headline: "World to end tomorrow, women and minorities to suffer most.)
Capitalism was/is the enemy. Wealth was/is evil, as were/are traditional Christian values.
Even though most of our producers and protectors (farmers, ranchers, oil workers, linemen, builders, fish catchers, police, military) had/have conservative values, the left controlled (and controls) most of the media, entertainment industry, academia and the rapidly evolving tech industry.
Back when Rush burst on the scene, "political correctness" was already in full swing, with anything right of center branded as "politically incorrect."
The early years of our current cancel culture.
And there was Rush, unapologetically conservative, pointing out the dangers and hypocrisy of our nation's steady march to the left. He used humor, music, skits and particularly parody.
All the sudden, those right of center had a voice! A smooth, brash, funny, effective voice far beyond the radio and TV preachers that had been the prime right-of center media refuge for a generation.
It was stunning! Tens of millions of people said, "this guy is saying what I've been thinking!"
Some of you may remember the "Rush rooms," where like-minded souls would gather to hear someone with a big voice - finally! - speaking to them. For them!
As a reporter then, I saw Rush as a warning shot across the bow of journalism: here was a guy whose explosive popularity shows how we in the media had drifted away - and were increasingly attacking - traditional conservative values. Ignoring, marginalizing, even slapping the faces of half the country.
I begged then - as I do now - for the media to strive to be more inclusive and balanced in the left-right teeter-totter that has always been with us. It would not only be good for their ratings and pocketbooks, it would keep our nation healthy and less divided.
It would fill the vacuum that birthed Rush.
Didn't happen. Big media just kept drifting to the left. Instead of learning from Rush, they attacked him.
For conservatives across this land galled by the budding and poisonous cancel culture, Rush was the antidote.
Yes, he made mistakes and missteps. Bad ones. Ugly ones. (But similar to outrageous statements made by leftist entertainers that aren't "fact-checked" or pilloried in the media.)
He famously lost his hearing because of his opioid addiction, deaf to the hypocrisy of his previous attacks on decedent Hollywood celebrities.
But he fought to the end for conservative values to be heard and included in our national conversation.
We've seen what unbridled liberalism can do in cities like Portland, Seattle, LA, New York, Chicago, Baltimore, St. Louis, etc., and countries like Venezuela and Cuba.
(You guys like to point to socialist countries like Denmark, Switzerland etc., but they're the whitest, most homogeneous countries on the planet.)
While liberals claim to champion the plight of blacks, their policies have enslaved so many of them with assistance programs, lowered standards and segregated and crime-ridden subsidized housing complexes that concentrate poverty and hopelessness. Where most of our controversial police shootings happen.
They attack black conservatives as traitors and Uncle Toms. Ditto for gays, lesbians or feminists who don't toe the line.
They attack historic monuments but ignore modern-day injustices borne out of their policies.
We must shut down pipelines and fossil fuels, they cry while jetting across the land.
Every weekday for three hours, Rush pointed all this out.
That's why you hate him, why you're willing to risk bad karma by speaking ill (nay, hate!) of the dead.
Yes, my hate-filled liberal friends, we need the left, desperately, to balance the injustices and hardness of unbridled capitalism.
Just like we need the right to produce and protect and urge self-sufficiency.
Too much right is as bad as too much left. It's a truth that has eluded you - a truth that spawned and maintained Rush Limbaugh.
You claim to champion tolerance, inclusion and free speech when the opposite is true.
Rush said this often.
You've proven it."
I think Rush was bad for America, but people publicly celebrating his death should be ashamed of themselves.
Quote from: LilCerberus on February 17, 2021, 08:38:34 PM
Quote from: zelmo73 on February 17, 2021, 05:22:05 PM
As a Native American "brown person" myself, this is probably my favorite Rush Limbaugh quote because I did respect his valid point. :teddyr:
"Let's check the scoreboard. How many Native Americans were killed by the arrival of the white man through disease and war...how many people have died since the white man arrived due to lung cancer, thanks to the Indian custom of smoking? Who are the real killers here?...Where are our reparations? I'm just saying." - Rush Limbaugh, 2010
"Illustrating Absurdity By being Absurd", he used to say.....
Like I said, his "valid point." :teddyr:
Only those who did not understand what he was doing were offended by him. Those who were offended by him were often the very people that he was targeting. :cheers: