The former President of SA Jacob Zuma was sentenced to 15 months jail for contempt of court: violence against authorities was threatened and then this happened:
https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/live-zumaunrest-durban-high-court-closes-kzn-pharmacies-pause-vaccinations-as-riots-spread-20210712 (https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/live-zumaunrest-durban-high-court-closes-kzn-pharmacies-pause-vaccinations-as-riots-spread-20210712)
Widespread looting across two major cities, people have been injured, people have died: cry, my beloved country. :bluesad:
Stay safe
Damn. :bluesad:
Looks like the USA.
I'm sorry, man. It's scary sh!t. Stay safe my friend.
stay safe Trevor
We are thinking about you. Keep us posted.
I'd hightail out there, friend. this may be just the begining
Sorry to hear about this Trevor. Hope it all calms down quickly.
Quote from: lester1/2jr on July 12, 2021, 11:44:32 PM
I'd hightail out there, friend. this may be just the begining
Nowhere to go, unfortunately: I already left one country to make a new life here.
Stay safe. I imagine this will boil over.
Quote from: Rev. Powell on July 13, 2021, 07:51:32 AM
Stay safe. I imagine this will boil over.
I hope so: Pretoria is on the verge of shutting down later today.
https://www.iol.co.za/pretoria-news/news/mamelodi-mall-looted-while-security-is-beefed-up-around-tshwane-5fedc740-ffe2-4205-9e1b-e5db59f40cd0 (https://www.iol.co.za/pretoria-news/news/mamelodi-mall-looted-while-security-is-beefed-up-around-tshwane-5fedc740-ffe2-4205-9e1b-e5db59f40cd0)
And there are soldiers on the streets too.
The chaos is breaking news internationally now:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9783815/South-African-looters-raid-Durban-warehouses-riots-escalate.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9783815/South-African-looters-raid-Durban-warehouses-riots-escalate.html)
What the hell is going on?
Just FYI: the people trying to protect their premises are civilians, not police or soldiers. :bluesad:
Always scary. Stay safe, Trevor. I'll pray for you & South Africa, & peace.
I believe things will stabilize. You are in our thoughts.
Oh no. I had seen some news reports here but hoped things were not as bad as they made them out to be. :bluesad:
Please take care and stay safe, Trevor.
Quote from: Newt on July 13, 2021, 02:18:04 PM
Oh no. I had seen some news reports here but hoped things were not as bad as they made them out to be. :bluesad:
Please take care and stay safe, Trevor.
Thanks, Sister: I see over 1200 people were arrested.
My point is SA has been in lockdown in one form or another for 474 days, much longer than a year. Many people have lost their jobs, the lower income groups are suffering, there seems to be no way out other than revolt and Mr Zuma's jail sentence was the spark which lit the fuse. The govt's vaccine rollout has been a disaster and in many cases, we are worse off now than in March 2020 when this started.
I'm not condoning what the people have done but SA people don't like having their liberties impinged upon or taken away and this has happened with no end in sight. :bluesad:
The latest update here (almost 6pm our time) is that our President has been condemned from all sides about his "fiddling while SA burns", 5000 soldiers have been deployed to deal with looters and people have been urged not to "panic buy".
https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/live-zumaunrest-durban-high-court-closes-kzn-pharmacies-pause-vaccinations-as-riots-spread-20210712 (https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/live-zumaunrest-durban-high-court-closes-kzn-pharmacies-pause-vaccinations-as-riots-spread-20210712)
If you scroll down to the Mall of Thembisa part you will see that live ammunition was used on the looters. :buggedout:
Oh my God, what is going on?? Declare a State of Emergency, for crying out loud!
This is touching and it shows how South Africans can come together.
https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/unrestsa-40-000-people-join-project-to-rebuild-after-looting-20210715 (https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/unrestsa-40-000-people-join-project-to-rebuild-after-looting-20210715)
40 000 people? Wow: I am smiling. :thumbup: :thumbup:
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Trev- I get it, man. The whole world is imploding.
But it's nothing new, I suppose. It's just different. :bluesad:
Quote from: RCMerchant on July 15, 2021, 09:19:43 AM
Trev- I get it, man. The whole world is imploding.
But it's nothing new, I suppose. It's just different. :bluesad:
Agreed: the last time I felt this concerned was in 1994 after the first democratic elections here as before they happened, there was much violence. My city seems to be OK thus far.
It seems things have calmed down now but the looters left a trail of destruction. What is strange is that many of them claimed to be hungry but the items that were looted the most were electrical goods, such as TVs etc. A TV is not the nicest thing to eat :buggedout:
The President also addressed the nation yesterday: too much, too little, too late unfortunately.
https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/live-zumaunrest-durban-high-court-closes-kzn-pharmacies-pause-vaccinations-as-riots-spread-20210712 (https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/live-zumaunrest-durban-high-court-closes-kzn-pharmacies-pause-vaccinations-as-riots-spread-20210712)
If things are calming down then hopefully things will be back to normal soon. Here's to hoping that's the best case scenario.
Quote from: El Misfit on July 17, 2021, 04:46:11 AM
If things are calming down then hopefully things will be back to normal soon. Here's to hoping that's the best case scenario.
Our President is facing opposition from other political parties and his own for dropping the ball: he has actually admitted to this.
Brother, I came back just to wish you safety in these times of turmoil.
You are a person of sanity in a place going insane. Please, take care of yourself. You are a shining light, sir. When I heard about this, you were the first thought to cross my mind. You are in my prayers.
Even though our own country is being overrun with Communists and Marxist lunatics, there are those of us here who would welcome you in a heartbeat.
Stay strong, my friend.
Quote from: javakoala on July 17, 2021, 04:58:25 PM
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Even though our own country is being overrun with Communists and Marxist lunatics,...
Yeh? Yeh? I must've missed the overrun... :lookingup: I don't see it. This is America. The dollar is almighty. The failure of such philosophies (antithetical to all that is American) is proof enough. Money. Money. Money is king.
Quote from: Allhallowsday on July 17, 2021, 09:41:34 PM
Quote from: javakoala on July 17, 2021, 04:58:25 PM
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Even though our own country is being overrun with Communists and Marxist lunatics,...
Yeh? Yeh? I must've missed the overrun... :lookingup: I don't see it. This is America. The dollar is almighty. The failure of such philosophies (antithetical to all that is American) is proof enough. Money. Money. Money is king.
And if java thinks America is overrun with Marxists, he's have a stroke in Trevor's South Africa, or pretty much any other democratic country outside of the USA...The Democratic Party would be considered center-right in most other countries.
I love you java and glad to see you again, though. :tongueout: :cheers:
Quote from: javakoala on July 17, 2021, 04:58:25 PM
Brother, I came back just to wish you safety in these times of turmoil.
You are a person of sanity in a place going insane. Please, take care of yourself. You are a shining light, sir. When I heard about this, you were the first thought to cross my mind. You are in my prayers.
Even though our own country is being overrun with Communists and Marxist lunatics, there are those of us here who would welcome you in a heartbeat.
Stay strong, my friend.
Brother Java :cheers:
Quote from: Allhallowsday on July 17, 2021, 09:41:34 PM
Quote from: javakoala on July 17, 2021, 04:58:25 PM
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Even though our own country is being overrun with Communists and Marxist lunatics,...
Yeh? Yeh? I must've missed the overrun... :lookingup: I don't see it. This is America. The dollar is almighty. The failure of such philosophies (antithetical to all that is American) is proof enough. Money. Money. Money is king.
I HAVE noticed it!
Like giant grasshoppers!
Giant Commie grass hoppers!
(https://i.imgur.com/5RBkQaZ.gif) (https://lunapic.com)
Quote from: RCMerchant on July 18, 2021, 10:36:19 AM
Quote from: Allhallowsday on July 17, 2021, 09:41:34 PM
Quote from: javakoala on July 17, 2021, 04:58:25 PM
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Even though our own country is being overrun with Communists and Marxist lunatics,...
Yeh? Yeh? I must've missed the overrun... :lookingup: I don't see it. This is America. The dollar is almighty. The failure of such philosophies (antithetical to all that is American) is proof enough. Money. Money. Money is king.
I HAVE noticed it!
Like giant grasshoppers!
Giant Commie grass hoppers!
(https://i.imgur.com/5RBkQaZ.gif) (https://lunapic.com)
:buggedout: :teddyr: :teddyr:
I must have missed those :wink:
Quote from: RCMerchant on July 18, 2021, 10:36:19 AM
Quote from: Allhallowsday on July 17, 2021, 09:41:34 PM
Quote from: javakoala on July 17, 2021, 04:58:25 PM
...
Even though our own country is being overrun with Communists and Marxist lunatics,...
Yeh? Yeh? I must've missed the overrun... :lookingup: I don't see it. This is America. The dollar is almighty. The failure of such philosophies (antithetical to all that is American) is proof enough. Money. Money. Money is king.
I HAVE noticed it!
Like giant grasshoppers!
Giant Commie grass hoppers!
(https://i.imgur.com/5RBkQaZ.gif) (https://lunapic.com)
Uh, this
is the year of the 17 year cicadas................
Quote from: RCMerchant on July 18, 2021, 10:36:19 AM
...I HAVE noticed it!
Like giant grasshoppers!
Giant Commie grass hoppers!
(https://i.imgur.com/5RBkQaZ.gif) (https://lunapic.com)
:bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:
Quote from: LilCerberus on July 18, 2021, 11:51:29 AM
...Uh, this is the year of the 17 year cicadas................
Wise words.