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Title: Directors Who Lost Their Groove
Post by: RCMerchant on July 01, 2023, 01:40:05 AM
...Like Wes Craven. After LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT (1972) he lost it.
Tobe Hopper. EATEN ALIVE was his last orginal film.
Tarintino- f**k, man.

Title: Re: Directors Who Lost Their Groove
Post by: Alex on July 01, 2023, 02:31:06 AM
Carpenter's last great film to me was In The Mouth of Madness.
Title: Re: Directors Who Lost Their Groove
Post by: Trevor on July 01, 2023, 02:38:39 AM
Quote from: RCMerchant on July 01, 2023, 01:40:05 AM
...Like Wes Craven. After LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT (1972) he lost it.
Tobe Hopper. EATEN ALIVE was his last orginal film.
Tarintino- f**k, man.


Tobe directed The Mangler in South Africa: I couldn't believe it was the same director.  :buggedout:
Title: Re: Directors Who Lost Their Groove
Post by: RCMerchant on July 01, 2023, 02:41:26 AM
Quote from: Alex on July 01, 2023, 02:31:06 AM
Carpenter's last great film to me was In The Mouth of Madness.

And before that he sucked after the THING (1982). Wait- I liked PRINCE OF DARKNESS! In a bad movie way!
THEY LIVE (1988) was fun, but not a scary movie.
Title: Re: Directors Who Lost Their Groove
Post by: Alex on July 01, 2023, 02:45:30 AM
Quote from: RCMerchant on July 01, 2023, 02:41:26 AM
Quote from: Alex on July 01, 2023, 02:31:06 AM
Carpenter's last great film to me was In The Mouth of Madness.

And before that he sucked after the THING (1982). Wait- I liked PRINCE OF DARKNESS! In a bad movie way!
THEY LIVE (1988) was fun, but not a scary movie.

I also liked Big Trouble in Little China Town.
Title: Re: Directors Who Lost Their Groove
Post by: claws on July 01, 2023, 02:57:46 AM
Craven did two iconic horror movies after LHOTL. I would rank his films like this (never seen Music from the Heart):

1. Scream (1996) (A+)
2. A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) (A+)
3. Red Eye (2005) (B+)
4. The People Under the Stairs (1991) (B)
5. New Nightmare (1994) (B)
6. The Serpent and the Rainbow (1988) (B)
7. Scream 2 (1997) (B)
8. The Hills Have Eyes (1977) (B)
9. Scream 4 (2011) (B-)
10. The Last House on the Left (1972) (C+)
11. Scream 3 (2000) (C-)
12. Deadly Blessing (1981) (C-)
13. Shocker (1989) (C-)
14. Deadly Friend (1986) (C-)

The Bad Movies of Wes Craven

15. Summer of Fear (1978 TV Movie) (D+)
16. Swamp Thing (1982) (D+)
17. Invitation to Hell (1984 TV Movie) (D)
18. Cursed (2005) (D-)
19. My Soul to Take (2010) (F)
20. Night Visions (1990 TV Movie) (F)
21. Vampire in Brooklyn (1995) (F)
22. Chiller (1985 TV Movie) (F)
23. The Hills Have Eyes Part II (1984) (F)

Tobe Hooper had its moments

1. The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974) (A+)
2. Poltergeist (1982) (A+)
3. Billy Idol: Dancing with Myself (1983 Music Video) (A)
4. Salem's Lot (1979) (A-)
5. Lifeforce (1985) (B-)
6. The Funhouse (1981) (C+)
7. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 (1986) (C-)
8. Eaten Alive (1976) (C-)
9. Invaders from Mars (1986) (C-)

The Bad Movies of Tobe Hooper

10. Toolbox Murders (2004) (D+)
11. The Apartment Complex (1999 TV Movie) (D+)
12. Masters of Horror - Episode: The Damned Thing (2006) (D)
13. Masters of Horror - Episode: Dance of the Dead (2005) (D-)
14. I'm Dangerous Tonight (1990 TV Movie) (D-)
15. Spontaneous Combustion (1989) (F)
16. Djinn (2013) (F)
17. The Mangler (1995) (F)
18. Mortuary (2005) (F)
19. Crocodile (2000 Video) (F)
20. Night Terrors (1993) (F)

Title: Re: Directors Who Lost Their Groove
Post by: RCMerchant on July 01, 2023, 03:32:57 AM
^ as far as Wes Craven goes- I forgot the HILLS HAVE EYES (1977). I never cared for the Freddy movies.
Title: Re: Directors Who Lost Their Groove
Post by: claws on July 01, 2023, 03:33:24 AM
Looking at John Carpenters output I'd say he did quite well for the most part

1. The Thing (1982) (A+)
2. Halloween (1978) (A+)
3. Masters of Horror - Episode: John Carpenter's Cigarette Burns (2005) (A+)
4. Assault on Precinct 13 (1976) (A+)
5. They Live (1988) (A+)
6. Big Trouble in Little China (1986) (A+)
7. Escape from New York (1981) (A+)
8. In the Mouth of Madness (1994) (A+)
9. Starman (1984) (A)
10. Elvis (1979 TV Movie) (A)
11. The Fog (1980) (A-)
12. Christine (1983) (A-)
13. Prince of Darkness (1987) (B+)
14. Someone's Watching Me! (1978 TV Movie) (B+)
15. Dark Star (1974) (B-)
16. Vampires (1998) (B-)
17. Memoirs of an Invisible Man (1992) (C+)
18. Escape from L.A. (1996) (C)
19. Village of the Damned (1995) (C)
20. Masters of Horror - Episode: Pro-Life (2006) (C)
21. The Ward (2010) (C-)

The Bad Movie of John Carpenter

22. Ghosts of Mars (2001) (D+)
Title: Re: Directors Who Lost Their Groove
Post by: Trevor on July 01, 2023, 01:06:56 PM
I think Steven Spielberg's last film releases like  West Side Story, The Pist and a few others haven't been what people normally expect from him. The Fabelmans was OK though.
Title: Re: Directors Who Lost Their Groove
Post by: Alex on July 01, 2023, 01:19:59 PM
Uwe Boll. He really should have stuck to video game adaptations.  :twirl:
Title: Re: Directors Who Lost Their Groove
Post by: Gabriel Knight on July 01, 2023, 01:42:19 PM
Christopher Nolan. The guy became enamored of his own style. Movies like INTERSTELLAR , INCEPTION, and THE PRESTIGE are a pretentious mess with way too many running time and budget on their hands, and have pointless scenes just to make it more complicated.

When I watch those I have a hard time believing they're from the same guy who did MEMENTO, one of my all-time favorites.
Title: Re: Directors Who Lost Their Groove
Post by: Trevor on July 01, 2023, 01:45:19 PM
Quote from: Alex on July 01, 2023, 01:19:59 PM
Uwe Boll. He really should have stuck to video game adaptations.  :twirl:

You should watch Darfur and 1968 Tunnel Rats, both made here. The man does have some talent as a filmmaker.
Title: Re: Directors Who Lost Their Groove
Post by: bob on July 01, 2023, 04:30:30 PM
the last Peter Jackson directed film that was good was The Frighteners (1996)
Title: Re: Directors Who Lost Their Groove
Post by: Trevor on July 01, 2023, 05:03:48 PM
In South African terms, Neil Blomkamp and Gavin Hood.
Title: Re: Directors Who Lost Their Groove
Post by: Zapranoth on July 01, 2023, 08:32:30 PM
M Knight Shamalamadingdong.   After, of course, The Sixth Sense.
Title: Re: Directors Who Lost Their Groove
Post by: Rev. Powell on July 02, 2023, 10:09:21 AM
Tim Burton is the prime example. He fell off a cliff after ED WOOD.
Title: Re: Directors Who Lost Their Groove
Post by: Trevor on July 02, 2023, 02:34:59 PM
Oliver Stone is another one I think lost his mojo. His films since World Trade Center have been a bit blah.
Title: Re: Directors Who Lost Their Groove
Post by: zombie no.one on July 02, 2023, 05:48:58 PM
LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT and THE HILLS HAVE EYES 2 (yes, Part 2) are the only Wes Craven movies I enjoy.


Edgar Wright... absolutely love SHAUN OF THE DEAD and HOT FUZZ. then THE WORLD'S END was very patchy, SCOT PILGRIM VS THE WORLD was boring, and BABY DRIVER was horrendous.
Title: Re: Directors Who Lost Their Groove
Post by: Trevor on July 02, 2023, 05:59:29 PM
Quote from: zombie no.one on July 02, 2023, 05:48:58 PM
LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT and THE HILLS HAVE EYES 2 (yes, Part 2) are the only Wes Craven movies I enjoy.


Edgar Wright... absolutely love SHAUN OF THE DEAD and HOT FUZZ. then THE WORLD'S END was very patchy, SCOT PILGRIM VS THE WORLD was boring, and BABY DRIVER was horrendous.

Agreed on Edgar Wright.
Title: Re: Directors Who Lost Their Groove
Post by: Gabriel Knight on July 10, 2023, 04:14:21 PM
After seeing the excellent INDIANA JONES AND THE DIAL OF DESTINY, I realized how lame Steven Spielberg has become. His alien fetish truly ruined his heartwarming style. I'm struggling to recall a recent good movie of his.
Title: Re: Directors Who Lost Their Groove
Post by: Jim H on July 15, 2023, 12:26:55 PM
Quote from: Gabriel Knight on July 10, 2023, 04:14:21 PM
After seeing the excellent INDIANA JONES AND THE DIAL OF DESTINY, I realized how lame Steven Spielberg has become. His alien fetish truly ruined his heartwarming style. I'm struggling to recall a recent good movie of his.

From what people say, it sounds like he's a huge machine of a director now, one of the things Shia publicly complained about on Crystal Skull.  That is, he's much less hands on for most things, and has a huge crew of assistants doing a ton of stuff under him with him just signing off on much of it.  I suspect that's part of it - when he's personally more involved, like the Fabelman's evidently was, you get better films.

But yeah, the last film of his I personally saw that approached being great was probably Munich, nearly 20 years ago.  I missed Lincoln though.

For my own example - I'd list John Woo.  He's had a couple OK films more recently, but his last film I'd whole heartedly recommend to anyone is Face/Off from 1997.  His Chinese blockbusters have some great moments, but they feel impersonal and overlong.  They're alright, but I don't like them a lot.