Agree or...... what's the word I'm looking for? Oh! Agree.
I dunno....
I mean, television isn't as fun since they quit showing old movies.....
And Moe Howard & Larry Fine thought television had ruined their careers, only to learn it saved the three stooges.....
I think both cinema and tv have lost out to streaming.
I don't watch a lot of TV shows, I prefer movies... but I watch them on my television. So I guess that's kind of a wash? :teddyr:
They have always coexisted. I don't see why that should change?
Personally I quit watching TV in the early 2000s. I got tired with the constant assault of ads.
The future of TV and streaming platforms?
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YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY... :lookingup: ...rarely watch complete movies anymore. I gather they still GO to theaters once in a while and sit there for a complete film, but if they're not in that room w/ the big screen, they ain't sittin' and watching a feature-length film on their computer, TV, or phone. I'm basing this on the majority of students ages 10-early 20s I've had contact w/ in the past decade... some post-college young adults as well.
So what do they do? They find short CLIPS from features on Youtube or elsewhere, watch them, and then resolve that they've seen the film. Ack! I just talked to a 21 year old college senior who is intelligent in all other ways, says he likes movies, and specifically says he likes Quentin Tarantino, but then admitted he had never seen a QT film in its entirety. Only clips on Youtube. :buggedout: :bluesad: :thumbdown:
Cinema is doomed. Then again, the whole planet will be underwater in 100 years anyway...
I've had trouble going to the cinema ever since I got double vision & had to start wearing prism eyeglasses....
The glare is terrible....
Watching a movie on my laptop in my reading glasses, or watching it on TV with no glasses is far easier on my senses...
The Hollywood elites are now being beat by a guy in his basement playing Fortnite or Minecraft for 15 hours.
I have mixed feelings.....
I miss those Sunday Night movies....
Sometimes, a watered down version of something that bombed a few years earlier, & sometimes, Ripped from the headlines & stamped out in a week or two.....
Quote from: M.10rda on October 14, 2023, 10:01:55 AM
YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY... :lookingup: ...rarely watch complete movies anymore. I gather they still GO to theaters once in a while and sit there for a complete film, but if they're not in that room w/ the big screen, they ain't sittin' and watching a feature-length film on their computer, TV, or phone. I'm basing this on the majority of students ages 10-early 20s I've had contact w/ in the past decade... some post-college young adults as well.
So what do they do? They find short CLIPS from features on Youtube or elsewhere, watch them, and then resolve that they've seen the film. Ack! I just talked to a 21 year old college senior who is intelligent in all other ways, says he likes movies, and specifically says he likes Quentin Tarantino, but then admitted he had never seen a QT film in its entirety. Only clips on Youtube. :buggedout: :bluesad: :thumbdown:
Cinema is doomed. Then again, the whole planet will be underwater in 100 years anyway...
there is a parallel to be drawn here with kids not knowing (or caring) what a full length album is any more. they'll only listen to individual tracks... that's how everything is presented and pushed now
Part of me has always been impressed that cinema survived VHS.
Quote from: Alex on October 15, 2023, 04:47:34 PM
Part of me has always been impressed that cinema survived VHS.
Poignant you should mention that, as I understand the theatrical release of Flashdance and a couple of Jackie Chan movies were aided by the VHS release.....
I guess in saying "TV" I was including streaming.
My thoughts were of how in terms of hours of viewership I believe TV dominates over cinema. In contrast to the garbage-movies dominating in cinemas, some excellent productions have been on TV/streaming, even basic cable, over the last decade or really across this century. You hear deep pop culture buzz about Game of Thrones, The Sopranos, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, The Crown, The Walking Dead, but who really praises the Marvel movies? People see them, they make a billion bucks, but they don't....put the energy into them that gets put into discussing TV shows, which people have been known to truly embrace, and the influences of which swept into everyday life. ("Do you have a zombiepocalypse escape plan" was directly a result of TWD.)
The last movies I can recall plunging deep into popular culture and generating true buzz and praise was The Lord of the Rings trilogy, and deservedly so. Since then neither Star Wars nor The Hobbit have made that big a splash. Movies come and go, people see them, they don't seem to care that much anymore, whereas movies used to be the outlet for the best minds in creativity, and that's not so anymore.
But actually, whoever said it is right, video games have them both on the ropes.
That's cultural evolution for you. (I hope it's evolution.)
Thanks to everyone who replied. It was just something I was thinking about.
Hey, some of us had a Zombie survival plan long before TWD. :bouncegiggle:
Quote from: ER on October 16, 2023, 06:53:19 AM
The last movies I can recall plunging deep into popular culture and generating true buzz and praise was The Lord of the Rings trilogy, and deservedly so. Since then neither Star Wars nor The Hobbit have made that big a splash. Movies come and go, people see them, they don't seem to care that much anymore, whereas movies used to be the outlet for the best minds in creativity, and that's not so anymore.
Were you asleep all summer for Barbenheimer?
Anyway, I think feature length movies are losing a little ground to television. We are living in a sort of golden age for longform drama. Look at Marvel; they seem to be putting more energy/emphasis into their TV series right now than their theatrical releases. I don't think movies are going anywhere anytime soon, however, anymore than novels are going anywhere. Streaming and theatrical releases are not mutually exclusive.
Maybe it's the new Oscar rules, & so forth....
Thinking out loud, I suppose, but then, the fate of the last few Disney movies keeps coming up in my other circles.....
TV gives you a chance to go to the bathroom.....
Streaming lets you hit Pause.....
Smart phones let you take it with you...
They been saying that since the 50's.
I don't think so.