I'm thinking of The 13th Warrior.
That movie is a favourite of both myself and Kristi.
For something different, I really like Titan A.E. and thought it should have been much more successful.
Hudson Hawk (sorry, Bob)
The Postman
John Carter
Heaven's Gate
RIPD
Tomorrowland
Cutthroat Island
The 13th Worrier
Cleopatra
Dr Doolittle
Hart's War
Wonder Woman 1984
Waterworld
Pixels
SCOTT PILGRIM VS. THE WORLD
2004's THE ALAMO
Very accurate and brilliant casting; still don't know why it flopped.
Heaven's Gate
Scott Pilgrim vs The World
Pixels
Cleopatra
Hart's War
Solo: A Star Wars Story
Live by Night
Last Man Standing
The 355
It's a Wonderful Life
Blade Runner 2049
Hugo
Quote from: indianasmith on January 13, 2024, 06:19:18 PM
2004's THE ALAMO
Very accurate and brilliant casting; still don't know why it flopped.
Yes!
With a lack of definition of bombs, I'm using the list of Box Office Bombs on Wikipedia and a couple of others lists.
Waterworld
Last Action Hero
Rise of the Guardians
Speed Racer
Windtalkers
Treasure Planet
Titan A.E.
The 13th Warrior
Quote from: indianasmith on January 13, 2024, 06:19:18 PM
2004's THE ALAMO
Very accurate and brilliant casting; still don't know why it flopped.
What I've seen of that, it didn't deserve to flop at all.
Missing Link (2019)
CHecking the Wikipedia bomb list, I can add:
THE ADVENTURES OF BARON MUNCHAUSEN
BLADE RUNNER 2049
WEST SIDE STORY remake
adding a few to this:
The Chronicles of Riddick
The Flowers of War
Free State of Jones
Ali
The Last Duel
Often it seems like nearly every film I like is a "box office bomb".
Some considered The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen a flop but I liked it. Peta Wilson was to die for 😘
Quote from: indianasmith on January 13, 2024, 06:19:18 PM
2004's THE ALAMO
Very accurate and brilliant casting; still don't know why it flopped.
Bad timing. Disney started working on it right after 9/11, hoping to capitalize on the patriotic furor. The furor, however, ran out before the film was finished. And it was, perhaps, less heroic than most people interested in the subject liked. Also, it was expensive, & may have had a bit of a troubled production. (Most of this comes from a video on the film I watched a few years ago.)
Movies I liked which didn't do well:
Pokemon 4Ever - The craze had ended, so this only got a limited release stateside.
The Phantom - Not a perfect movie, but it is fun seeing a superhero film which doesn't feel like a cartoon.
Message from Space - It's a bit over-the top, & perhaps too much for one sitting, & the FX feel like something from the 50's, but that's all part of the charm.
The Black Cauldron - Too dark for Disney's usual audience. Too expensive, & there's a small plot error which makes it seem that the main character was sent towards the bad guy's castle, but still a childhood favorite, with some good animation.
The Thief & The Cobbler - Great animation in service of a meandering plot. Too expensive, too similar to Aladdin, which came out a few years before it, tho
Thief was in production first.
KRULL - Fun fantasy movie.
I'll stan for KRULL any/every day. Saw it in the theater in '83, loved it, saw it many times that decade on TV, then saw it again 15-20 years ago, and - still loved it! Alun Armstrong, Freddie Jones, Robbie Coltrane (looking unusually buff and tuff), Lysette Anthony :hot: ...Francesca Annis... :hot: :bouncegiggle: .......this guy who never did anything else named uh Liam Neeson? Also ALL the grisly death and mayhem that a small child had come to expect from a PG-rated film of that era............. yeah, what's not to love? :thumbup:
When people discuss 80s nightmare fuel, NEVERENDING STORY and LABYRINTH seem to come up most frequently. I get it, but I'll submit Freddie Jones' desperate race with the handful of sand as an ultimate childhood anxiety-inducer. Two years before Tarkovki's famous finale to NOSTALGIA, too.
Geez...this is BAD MOVIES- 1000's!
The Suicide Squad- the sequel/reboot from 2021. It was enjoyable.
Power Rangers- from like 2017. It missed the mark but as a fan of the series it was fun seeing Rangers on the big screen again.
Hudson Hawk- no apologies
I don't know if these count but:
Earth Girls Are Easy-late 80s flick with Geena Davis, Jeff Goldblum, Jim Carrey and Damon Wayans
Return of the Killer Tomatoes- I mean, was low budget and they made 4 of these.
Quote from: HappyGilmore on February 06, 2024, 08:38:51 AM
The Suicide Squad- the sequel/reboot from 2021. It was enjoyable.
I liked it too. I don't know that I would call it a bomb, it made $168.7 million at the box office (on a $185 million budget). After you add in streaming and physical media revenue it probably came close to breaking even.
was about to confidently vote for FRIDAY 13TH VIII: JASON TAKES MANHATTAN, but a quick glance at wiki and it nearly trebled its production budget at the box office.
surprised at that, considering its reputation
edit - budget $5.5 million... so that's the most it could've lost anyway... I guess it didn't even qualify for 'bomb' status?
STAR TREK V THE FINAL FRONTIER. I liked it back then and still do. 😎
Not that I think it was a bomb, because I believe it more or less broke even, but Waterworld.
Quote from: Rev. Powell on February 06, 2024, 09:59:39 AM
Quote from: HappyGilmore on February 06, 2024, 08:38:51 AM
The Suicide Squad- the sequel/reboot from 2021. It was enjoyable.
I liked it too. I don't know that I would call it a bomb, it made $168.7 million at the box office (on a $185 million budget). After you add in streaming and physical media revenue it probably came close to breaking even.
It was considered an enormous financial embarrassment and a failure when it was released....... by the standards of Gunn's GOTG movies et al. Of course Covid was still wreaking havoc on theatrical numbers in August 2021 as well. Two years later the superhero movie market has
really bottomed out and THE SUICIDE SQUAD now seems like a respectable return on its investment in contrast. Also I think most quarters recognized it was legitimately a (very) good movie in spite of its underperformance... WB turned complete control of its DC movies over to Gunn a year later...
Quote from: Rev. Powell on February 06, 2024, 09:59:39 AM
Quote from: HappyGilmore on February 06, 2024, 08:38:51 AM
The Suicide Squad- the sequel/reboot from 2021. It was enjoyable.
I liked it too. I don't know that I would call it a bomb, it made $168.7 million at the box office (on a $185 million budget). After you add in streaming and physical media revenue it probably came close to breaking even.
I only based my calling it such off the Wiki page on bombs.
Quote from: M.10rda on February 06, 2024, 04:42:02 PM
Quote from: Rev. Powell on February 06, 2024, 09:59:39 AM
Quote from: HappyGilmore on February 06, 2024, 08:38:51 AM
The Suicide Squad- the sequel/reboot from 2021. It was enjoyable.
I liked it too. I don't know that I would call it a bomb, it made $168.7 million at the box office (on a $185 million budget). After you add in streaming and physical media revenue it probably came close to breaking even.
It was considered an enormous financial embarrassment and a failure when it was released....... by the standards of Gunn's GOTG movies et al. Of course Covid was still wreaking havoc on theatrical numbers in August 2021 as well. Two years later the superhero movie market has really bottomed out and THE SUICIDE SQUAD now seems like a respectable return on its investment in contrast. Also I think most quarters recognized it was legitimately a (very) good movie in spite of its underperformance... WB turned complete control of its DC movies over to Gunn a year later...
I'm a huge Gunn fan and loved his Guardians series as well as Squad. I'm curious about his direction moving forward
There is a South African movie called Kruger Millions which is, believe it or not, a war musical film. It was a huge box office pile of poo but it is the go to movie if you really want to see people getting squashed by elephants 😑😳😄🐘
It is on YouTube.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs
I have seen 5 films on this list. HUDSON HAWK is the only one I really liked
JACK FROST was original enough but not my cuppa tea. budget $40m ?! I got strong 'regional horror' vibes from it...
GIGLI I watched last year just out of interest because of its reputation... can barely remember anything about it
CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK. found this boring, but not my genre anyway.
AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 DAYS... love Steve Coogan's stuff as Alan Partridge, Paul Calf etc, but he was wasted in this... barely any funny moments
Quote from: Rev. Powell on February 06, 2024, 09:59:39 AM
Quote from: HappyGilmore on February 06, 2024, 08:38:51 AM
The Suicide Squad- the sequel/reboot from 2021. It was enjoyable.
I liked it too. I don't know that I would call it a bomb, it made $168.7 million at the box office (on a $185 million budget). After you add in streaming and physical media revenue it probably came close to breaking even.
Sounds like a bomb to me. :teddyr: If it were my money, I'd be disappointed. After all, George Lucas is worth 7 billion... :lookingup:
GIGLI is offensive and bad in some regards, but Walken walks away with the film during his walk-on part. As many films as he's made, that guy very rarely coasted through a role. He almost always brought his A-game.
I have a slight liking for Uncle Uwe Boll's ALONE IN THE DARK.
"O" was pretty good. with Julia Stiles
Quote from: Allhallowsday on February 07, 2024, 05:16:41 PM
Quote from: Rev. Powell on February 06, 2024, 09:59:39 AM
Quote from: HappyGilmore on February 06, 2024, 08:38:51 AM
The Suicide Squad- the sequel/reboot from 2021. It was enjoyable.
I liked it too. I don't know that I would call it a bomb, it made $168.7 million at the box office (on a $185 million budget). After you add in streaming and physical media revenue it probably came close to breaking even.
Sounds like a bomb to me. :teddyr: If it were my money, I'd be disappointed. After all, George Lucas is worth 7 billion... :lookingup:
I guess it was a bomb. The ratio of budget/receipts is 85%, which is better than some of the real flops. According to the wikipedia list, some of the films whose receipts > budgets are still considered bombs. Due to Hollywood accounting, it's impossible to know how much money a picture really made or lost.
Quote from: Rev. Powell on February 08, 2024, 02:13:25 PM
Quote from: Allhallowsday on February 07, 2024, 05:16:41 PM
Quote from: Rev. Powell on February 06, 2024, 09:59:39 AM
Due to Hollywood accounting, it's impossible to know how much money a picture really made or lost.
Yeah, this. I started paying attention to box office grosses as well as budgets waaaaaay back in the 80s when USA Today used to run a weekly feature on them. I'm no kind of expert as we've discussed before but I'm pretty sure that back in the 80s and for a while thereafter studios wouldn't include advertising as part of the production budget, and so when there were discussions about profitability they primarily focused on whether the film made more money in receipts than it cost to produce. Today it's a different story and apparently we have films like ANT-MAN 3 which by some math maybe broke even or came close and by other math lost dozens upon dozens of millions of dollars. I don't actually give a poop one way or another except that I recognize that profit/loss assessment will determine whether we get another ANT-MAN or another SUICIDE SQUAD. However much money it made or lost, ANT-MAN 3 was mediocre. Although I'm disappointed THE SUICIDE SQUAD '21 didn't make more money, there's no real logic in my head that allows it to get classified as "a bomb". Maybe DA' Bomb, but not "a" bomb. It exists and I'm happy for that.
Quote from: zombie no.one on February 07, 2024, 03:42:00 AM
JACK FROST was original enough but not my cuppa tea. budget $40m ?! I got strong 'regional horror' vibes from it...
oops... apparently I'm thinking of the 97 horror, this is actually a 98 family / kids film starring Michael Keaton. budget '$40 - $85 million'
I guess the fact that I've never heard of this one yet I knew the trashy 97 one means my badmovie stripes are intact right?
Good listicle on the subject, focusing on newer films: https://variety.com/lists/best-box-office-flops/warrior/
I agree with most of these choices. Assuming KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON is a flop, it's one of the better ones.
I really liked/loved BEAU IS AFRAID, TAR, ANNIHILATION, BLADE RUNNER 2049, UNDER THE SKIN, THE MASTER, INHERENT VICE, and FIGHT CLUB.
I liked DUMB MONEY, THE FABELMANS, IN THE HEIGHTS, THE SUICIDE SQUAD, AD ASTRA, HUGO, and the WEST SIDE STORY remake;.
I at least respected ARE YOU THERE GOD? IT'S ME, MARGARET, WOMEN TALKING, and STEVE JOBS.
BROS deserved to flop, though.
Wow, FIGHT CLUB. Yeah, come to think of it, not a box office success. Surely it's crawled its way into the black over the past 25 years.......?
THE BIG LEBOWSKI seems like a similar long-term success... I remember reports of it being a bomb after opening weekend (grossing only a third of its tiny $15 million budget). Google sez it went on to gross $55 million worldwide. With TV/DVD/blu-ray/streaming/etc I have to think it's still a nice, modest but regular royalty check in the mailboxes of Dude, Walter, and the Coens...
I like Jupiter Ascending. Wow it is expensive hot garbage, but I can't help myself.
Madam Web
Didn't love it.
But liked it... enough.
Having a mentor as a lead instead of the punchy hero is a great idea. Following a Giles rather than a Buffy.
But, y'know, the people she's mentoring needs to have more personality than owns a skateboard. Is rich. Is poor.
^ Good to see you here. It's been forever.
Dogget stays away for 7 years.
Comes back to praise "Madame Web."
Now that's a bad movie fan!
Quote from: Zapranoth on March 10, 2024, 02:22:45 AM
I like Jupiter Ascending. Wow it is expensive hot garbage, but I can't help myself.
I really liked Jupiter Ascending myself. Or at least I've come to appreciate it more for trying to be its own thing.
The Spirit(2008)
The Wolfman(2010)
Alien vs Predator: Requiem(2006)
I liked the most recent DEATH RACE movie.
Quote from: Doggett on April 10, 2024, 09:27:47 AM
Madam Web
Didn't love it.
But liked it... enough.
Having a mentor as a lead instead of the punchy hero is a great idea. Following a Giles rather than a Buffy.
But, y'know, the people she's mentoring needs to have more personality than owns a skateboard. Is rich. Is poor.
Don't care what the fools here think of me, it is good to see you, Doggett. Live Long & Prosper!
Quote from: Rev. Powell on April 10, 2024, 05:56:44 PM
Dogget stays away for 7 years.
Comes back to praise "Madame Web."
Now that's a bad movie fan!
😁😁😁
John Milius' FAREWELL TO THE KING is very underrated.
Quote from: Trevor on January 16, 2024, 07:43:58 AMSome considered The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen a flop but I liked it. Peta Wilson was to die for 😘
That movie is one of my guilty pleasures, it's just too damn cool and fun. Same goes for
VAN HELSING. And yes, the chicks in those movies are a delight.
Quote from: Gabriel Knight on July 05, 2024, 03:55:38 PMQuote from: Trevor on January 16, 2024, 07:43:58 AMSome considered The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen a flop but I liked it. Peta Wilson was to die for 😘
That movie is one of my guilty pleasures, it's just too damn cool and fun. Same goes for VAN HELSING. And yes, the chicks in those movies are a delight.
Music for TLOEG is composed by Trevor Jones, from Cape Town 😊🇿🇦