Everyone's second favorite Spandeau Ballet song is now at all time high
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One thing people know about gold is that it's heavy. One ounce is not very much.
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Typically, the price is reflective of the dollar supply, (and) inflation, and sometimes world events.
Anyone have any? I bought some during the Ron Paul campaign years. It's certainly gone up, but I didn't buy all that much.
In a barter economy such as would rise in the wake of societal collapse, gold would have less value than garden tools, seeds, fish hooks, bullets, bleach. (Air rifles with a bucket of pellets are also extremely useful.) In various industries we are destroying silver at a higher rate than at any time in history, as opposed to gold, which is infinitely recyclable, so silver might become increasing valuable as time goes by, for one thinking long-term. When I bought my latest batch of Israeli bonds, the man who handled the transaction was talking to me about silver, and said Israel has been buying it in huge quantities in this century. Displaying gold, on the other hand, will get you knifed in the city, as it has a strange power over some people. Just ask the Aztecs.
I own own not one piece of gold. Not a ring, necklace, coin- nothing.
This fellow made four-hundred dollars from gold and loose gemstones he found vacuuming cracks in New York City sidewalks over the course of about an hour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfrqUNFtM6A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfrqUNFtM6A)
QuoteIn a barter economy such as would rise in the wake of societal collapse, gold would have less value than garden tools, seeds, fish hooks, bullets, bleach.
paper dollars are what would lose value
a "barter economy" would be pretty hard as tools and fish hooks might not add up to en even trade. Gold would likely re emerge as a medium of exchange, as it has been for thousands of years and also in the very recent past. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regression_theorem
That said, gold's price is not contingent on the end of the world as we know it. Central banks of virtually all countries have massive amounts of gold. They show the price on CNBC it's not some freakish outsider thing.
rc
QuoteI own own not one piece of gold. Not a ring, necklace, coin- nothing.
forget all the Scrooge Mcduck/ greed sort of associations. It's real money and was used as such for most of America's history
Depending on the status of the remaining government (assuming there still is one), methinks the demand for energy would make oil the standard.....
Quote from: lester1/2jr on April 05, 2024, 03:44:36 PM
QuoteIn a barter economy such as would rise in the wake of societal collapse, gold would have less value than garden tools, seeds, fish hooks, bullets, bleach.
paper dollars are what would lose value
a "barter economy" would be pretty hard as tools and fish hooks might not add up to en even trade. Gold would likely re emerge as a medium of exchange, as it has been for thousands of years and also in the very recent past. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regression_theorem
That said, gold's price is not contingent on the end of the world as we know it. Central banks of virtually all countries have massive amounts of gold. They show the price on CNBC it's not some freakish outsider thing.
rc QuoteI own own not one piece of gold. Not a ring, necklace, coin- nothing.
forget all the Scrooge Mcduck/ greed sort of associations. It's real money and was used as such for most of America's history
Can't eat it, bro. Remember, in theory the political scale begins and ends at anarchy.
I've never understood investors' fascination with gold. It's kind of a cult with a lot of people. It has little intrinsic value, and is completely arbitrary as a "standard." If society or the economy collapsed, I guess it would have value because of its tradition as a medium of exchange--though assuming the infrastructure was still there, crypto might work better. Lots of precious metals have more practical applications: platinum, palladium, silver, even copper.
Like bitcoin, people buy gold because other people buy it, and you can indeed make money off it. I've probably owned some through a fund at some point or another, although I don't own any now. I did own a lot of palladium (through a fund) but no precious metals or other commodities at this time.
Oil.
The state of the current economy is a prime example.
"He who controls the spice controls the universe!"
I could care less about gold. Or lots of money. As long as I can pay the bills and the occasional book, magazine, or comic-I'm good.
Makes me wonder if antique comics would be legal tender......
^ Are in my house! I sell something for old comics as payment! For an issue of Sgt. Fury #1, I'd sell my ass! :buggedout:
side note, but 'legal tender' doesn't mean what people think it means
any vendor can accept or refuse whatever they want in exchange for their goods and services.
I could set myself up with a hot dog stand and say I'm refusing cash/money, and only taking payment in the form of DVDs of Steven Seagal films. my hot dogs, my decision.
'legal tender' only becomes relevant if someone is settling a debt which a court has ordered them to repay... If they offer something classed as 'legal tender' to settle the debt (for example $$$ or £££), then whoever the debt is being repaid to cannot refuse it and ask for something different instead.
^They started something like that in Brazil.... Barter clubs, and they were pretty successful at the time, but I don't know how they're doing now...^
Somebody tried the same thing in several American cities, but they couldn't gain enough interest......
Rev- Gold might not have tons of "intrinsic value" but it has a lot more than paper bills. If you had German marks in a safe somewhere they'd be utterly worthless now.
Quote from: LilCerberus on April 05, 2024, 08:49:52 PM
^They started something like that in Brazil.... Barter clubs, and they were pretty successful at the time, but I don't know how they're doing now...^
Somebody tried the same thing in several American cities, but they couldn't gain enough interest......
yeah I mean, it's not very economically viable (or whatever the clever-sounding term would be)
but the point is no one can walk in a shop to buy something and demand the owner takes their coins/notes because it's 'legal tender'...
the shop owner can refuse a sale for any reason at all,
unless the reason is prejudice against a protected characteristic of the customer (i.e. age, race, gender, disability etc)
I had to be on top of all this stuff in my previous job.
it's possible there might be slightly different laws in the US but I don't think so.
I see that those in charge in my birth country of Zimbabwe are now going back to a gold based currency in order to prop up a struggling economy with skyrocketing inflation 😔
Quote from: lester1/2jr on April 06, 2024, 01:25:44 AM
Rev- Gold might not have tons of "intrinsic value" but it has a lot more than paper bills. If you had German marks in a safe somewhere they'd be utterly worthless now.
Off topic, but this made me interested in looking up what people did with old Deutchmarks. Turns out lots of people are saving them for some reason: https://www.dw.com/en/free-money-why-are-billions-of-german-marks-still-floating-around/a-67875558 (https://www.dw.com/en/free-money-why-are-billions-of-german-marks-still-floating-around/a-67875558)
You can still exchange them for Euros at a fixed rate.
Gold is heavy to transport and not particularly useful by itself. If society was to collapse it would not be my currency of choice. Hell, Fallouts bottlecaps would be a better idea than trying to carry a lot of that stuff around. Food, water, alcohol, cigarettes and toilet paper would be my bets for what to trade in.
Oh and weapons (inc ammo).
QuoteYou can still exchange them for Euros at a fixed rate.
okay bad example. the point is paper money is made of paper. speaking of which
QuoteI see that those in charge in my birth country of Zimbabwe are now going back to a gold based currency in order to prop up a struggling economy with skyrocketing inflation 😔
a better example.
QuoteFood, water, alcohol, cigarettes and toilet paper would be my bets for what to trade in.
Well again, the selling point here isn't the absolute end of the world as we know it, it's inflation which is caused, generally speaking, by printing excessive amounts of currency. Would you want to be paid one ounce of gold or ten quadrillion Zimbabwe dollars which might be worth even less in a month
I think America used to have several different bills...
These days, we all use the Federal Reserve Note...
The Lindberg kidnapper was found by using a discontinued Gold Reserve Note...
In the movie Flashpoint (1984) Kris Kristofferson goes to a rare coin shop to ask about a Silver Reserve Note...
^ in the Underdog opening credits, Shoeshine boy bites the coin to see if it's real and not a softer lead based (counterfeit) one
I'm also reminded how Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid were betrayed after using a railroad bond....
At the time, railroad bonds became preferable to cash, as they were insurable and easy to trace if stolen, thus making them legal tender at the time...
Quote from: lester1/2jr on April 06, 2024, 02:09:29 PM
QuoteFood, water, alcohol, cigarettes and toilet paper would be my bets for what to trade in.
Well again, the selling point here isn't the absolute end of the world as we know it, it's inflation which is caused, generally speaking, by printing excessive amounts of currency. Would you want to be paid one ounce of gold or ten quadrillion Zimbabwe dollars which might be worth even less in a month
Since Zimbabwe has just launched a new currency, I'd take the dollars as a future investment. I'd gamble on even a small increase in it value beating any increase in value in an ounce of gold, due to the sheer numbers involved in ten quadrillion. With those figures a tiny increase is going to make you vastly more wealthy. Even if it takes a couple of decades to improve you'd still end up much better off. Of course, there is a chance the value will crash further, but any investment has that element. An ounce of gold might make you a little bit of money, but not that much. I mean an ounce of gold today is only worth what, $500 more than it was 4 years ago?
Alex- ahh but the new currency is new because it is now backed by gold!! so we're back where we started
QuoteI mean an ounce of gold today is only worth what, $500 more than it was 4 years ago?
oil is worth more or less the same as it was 4 years ago / pre covid. gold is commodity not a stock
it's something you would have in place of cash not like owning Tesla or something
it's not any kind of great investment it's just crazy that it's going up again. or slightly interesting or not at all depending on your perspective
Kopi Luwak.....
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Quote from: LilCerberus on April 06, 2024, 03:06:46 PM
Kopi Luwak.....
Uh, OK? :question:
It's Lemur $#*t...
And people think it's worth a fortune for some reason.....
OK, so we've established gold and former German currency are worthless, so if anyone wants to get rid of theirs, I will take it off your hands and not charge you anything.
https://fxopen.com/blog/en/top-10-worlds-most-worthless-currencies/
3. Vietnamese Dong (VND)
1 USD = 23,255 VND
The economy of Vietnam is still recovering from the wars, and the transition from a centralised to a market economy has greatly affected the country and its activities. Investors are still very cautious about investing in the country, which restrains the value of Vietnam's national currency.
After the reunification of Vietnam in 1976, the government faced many challenges. In two years, a new monetary reform was carried out, and the Northern dong and the dong of South Vietnam were merged. Due to the increase in inflation in 1987-1991, new banknotes of 20,000 and 50,000 dongs were printed, and in 1994, a 100,000 VND banknote appeared.
The currency pair rate reached the highest rate of 23,679.375 in 2022, compared to a record low of 0.976 reached in 1983.
Quote from: LilCerberus on April 06, 2024, 02:10:31 PM
I think America used to have several different bills...
Yes, states would, in defiance of the US Treasury, issue their own money for many years. (Not the Confederate states, I mean earlier on in the history of the nation.)
Years ago I went to an estate sale in Florence, Kentucky and found a book I hope I still have somewhere, called
A History of Boone County, Kentucky, by Professor A.M. Yealey, and he said when Kentucky was the frontier, only dollar coins reached the interior there, no lesser denominations, so when people needed to make change, they'd chop a silver dollar into four parts, and that was how you arrived at a quarter-dollar. Ten cents was done by splitting a dollar into ten parts, etc.
Man, I need to go find that book, it was a real find filled with obscure facts about the region from the 1700s and 1800s.
Quote from: lester1/2jr on April 06, 2024, 02:56:50 PM
Alex- ahh but the new currency is new because it is now backed by gold!! so we're back where we started
QuoteI mean an ounce of gold today is only worth what, $500 more than it was 4 years ago?
oil is worth more or less the same as it was 4 years ago / pre covid. gold is commodity not a stock
it's something you would have in place of cash not like owning Tesla or something
it's not any kind of great investment it's just crazy that it's going up again. or slightly interesting or not at all depending on your perspective
You don't need to change your currency to have it backed by something different. I think its a different currency because the previous one was so little trusted. I wouldn't agree with you that we were back to the start simply because all I did was answer your question to choose between gold or the Zimbabwean currency. Had you offered a choice not connected to gold (just for the sake of argument, Scots whiskey caskets) and I'd chosen gold or the currency then you would have had a point there, but not in a closed-loop argument like that.
As someone who has previously dabbled in a very minor way in the currency markets (as well as stock markets, futures etc), and made some money out of it (fifteen years of investments paid for a two-month-long holiday with enough left over for new computers and laptops, so a nice amount but hardly enough to live off), I do find it interesting and I've been watching how countries have been semi returning to the gold standard, but not fully.
As a couple of side notes did you know the gold standard was started by accident? Also when we used it, you could take a banknote to any employee of the Bank of England and they'd have to give you its value in gold (banknotes in the UK aren't actually legal tender, they are just promissory notes. Only coins are. It is written on notes "I promise to pay the bearer on demand the sum of..., whereas I believe American bank notes do have something written on them proclaiming them to be legal tender). Anyway, I digress there.
QuoteAs a couple of side notes did you know the gold standard was started by accident? Also when we used it, you could take a banknote to any employee of the Bank of England and they'd have to give you its value in gold (banknotes in the UK aren't actually legal tender, they are just promissory notes. Only coins are. It is written on notes "I promise to pay the bearer on demand the sum of..., whereas I believe American bank notes do have something written on them proclaiming them to be legal tender)
and that's bad? that's more like how it should be. trust but verify
Quote from: lester1/2jr on April 07, 2024, 12:54:03 AM
QuoteAs a couple of side notes did you know the gold standard was started by accident? Also when we used it, you could take a banknote to any employee of the Bank of England and they'd have to give you its value in gold (banknotes in the UK aren't actually legal tender, they are just promissory notes. Only coins are. It is written on notes "I promise to pay the bearer on demand the sum of..., whereas I believe American bank notes do have something written on them proclaiming them to be legal tender)
and that's bad? that's more like how it should be. trust but verify
Didn't say it was bad or good. Just mentioned it.
Quote from: Alex on April 06, 2024, 03:56:31 PM
you could take a banknote to any employee of the Bank of England and they'd have to give you its value in gold (banknotes in the UK aren't actually legal tender, they are just promissory notes. Only coins are.
think because the currency is 'Sterling' as in Sterling Silver it might have been silver not gold?
also I just checked and confusingly banknotes are legal tender in England and Wales but not Scotland or N Ireland apparently.
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Quote from: Alex on April 06, 2024, 03:56:31 PM
you could take a banknote to any employee of the Bank of England and they'd have to give you its value in gold (banknotes in the UK aren't actually legal tender, they are just promissory notes. Only coins are.
think because the currency is 'Sterling' as in Sterling Silver it might have been silver not gold?
also I just checked and confusingly banknotes are legal tender in England and Wales but not Scotland or N Ireland apparently.
From the House of Lords library:
QuoteThis meant that any holder of banknotes issued by the Bank of England could present the note at the Bank and demand immediate payment in bullion at a fixed conversion rate. Under this regime, the Bank set interest rates to ensure that sufficient gold was attracted to London to maintain convertibility.
fair enough... wonder if anyone ever demanded 1p worth of gold. just to test the theory out :teddyr:
If there has ever been a 1p note then they could have.
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^ it's still going up
Right wing joke that come around every few years that goes, "Don't buy gold, buy ammo."
gold continues to go higher on inflation concerns, insane world events, and playing catch up with the money supply. aaaaand maybe just a tad bit of rank speculation
$2,785.90 USD for one Ottomon era turkish lira
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or maybe there is some historical value idk
Did you know England sold all their gold at 300 an ounce https://www.bullionvault.com/gold-news/opinion-analysis/gold-1999-gordon-brown-uk-bank-england-history-050220241? Canada did the same at 1200. Way to go, guys
I agree with you Lester, Gold has the most value
also doesn't gold go up before there's a World War? historically...
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Blue is stocks, yellow is gold. Gold can outperform in the short-term but it's a guessing game. Buy gold if you want. It's probably best as a small part of your overall portfolio, though.
Quote from: lester1/2jr on October 29, 2024, 11:38:49 PMDid you know England sold all their gold at 300 an ounce https://www.bullionvault.com/gold-news/opinion-analysis/gold-1999-gordon-brown-uk-bank-england-history-050220241? Canada did the same at 1200. Way to go, guys
It was the UK, not England. That would be like saying Idaho did something when it was the whole of the USA. The gold price went down because the market knew we were ditching the gold standard and they sold it anyway because the cost of guarding and storing it would have been greater than what would have been made by waiting for a higher price.
My country was built on gold.
Alex- There aren't 50 states in the UK. All the power and decisions are in England and Ireland and Scotland and England have different cultures and hate each other. very different from US
Gold has 9x it's value since then. they could have bought yachts for all the guards and still made a tidy profit
Rev- it's not as profitable as a GOOD stock, but the 20 year chart is pretty impressive. At any rate, it's just to note that it's going higher.
Quote from: Trevor on October 30, 2024, 09:21:26 AMMy country was built on gold.
That sounds expensive. Couldn't they have built it on concrete or limestone or something?
;-)
Quote from: lester1/2jr on October 30, 2024, 03:05:29 PMAlex- There aren't 50 states in the UK. All the power and decisions are in England and Ireland and Scotland and England have different cultures and hate each other. very different from US
Gold has 9x it's value since then. they could have bought yachts for all the guards and still made a tidy profit
Rev- it's not as profitable as a GOOD stock, but the 20 year chart is pretty impressive. At any rate, it's just to note that it's going higher.
Well I guess you know more about the storage and guarding costs than me. Bit of a surprise since I actually read the report on the costs involved back then, but there you go. Afraid not all the power is in England, each of the individual states that make up the UK has its own parliment which have varying levels of powers and can make laws that effect their own territory. We do have the overarching parliament in London, but it is a very similar setup to what you have in the US with state and federal laws. I wouldn't say everyone hates everyone else, any more than I'd say all the states hate each other (I've heard people in the US critise other states just as much as I've heard people do the same about UK states). I've only been to half a dozen states but I'd say they've all had radically different cultures from each other. Utah and Nevada might as well be different countries for example.
So yeah not totally different at all. In fact very similar.
EDIT. Oh, and the PM who made the decision to sell the gold at the time wasn't English, so yeah not an English decision at all.
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Most countries have gold reserves. Paper money has to be guarded too. I used to do deliveries to the Federal Reserve building here in Boston. They look under your car for bombs and you have to go through metal detectors and so forth.
And yes Scottish People and Irish people hate England and each other. I stand by that.
Quote from: lester1/2jr on October 30, 2024, 03:49:40 PM(https://suissegold.com/uploads/manufacturers/central-bank-gold-reserves-in-2022.jpg)
Most countries have gold reserves. Paper money has to be guarded too. I used to do deliveries to the Federal Reserve building here in Boston. They look under your car for bombs and you have to go through metal detectors and so forth.
And yes Scottish People and Irish people hate England and each other. I stand by that.
Some do. I am Scottish and I don't hate England or each other. I work somewhere with 2500 to 3000 people from all across the UK and we don't seem to have any problems with hating each other. But hey again I guess you know better. Stand by it all you like, but it is no different to anywhere else where yeah some people hate others but most don't.
Quote from: lester1/2jr on October 30, 2024, 03:05:29 PMAlex- There aren't 50 states in the UK. All the power and decisions are in England and Ireland and Scotland and England have different cultures and hate each other. very different from US
What country are you living in? :lookingup:
Quote from: pacman000 on October 30, 2024, 03:10:27 PMQuote from: Trevor on October 30, 2024, 09:21:26 AMMy country was built on gold.
That sounds expensive. Couldn't they have built it on concrete or limestone or something?
;-)
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Alex - you are feigning naivety. everyone is aware of the stereotype of Scots, Irish and Brits hating each other.
RC - does each state have a different language? America is not comparable to the UK aka ENGLAND
more to the point: Gold is doing good no matter what the UK or USA really are or is.
It's not a good thing or a bad thing it is simply a thing.
ever notice how there didn't use to be billionaires and now there are lots of them? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_supply
Quote from: lester1/2jr on October 30, 2024, 11:20:11 PMAlex - you are feigning naivety. everyone is aware of the stereotype of Scots, Irish and Brits hating each other.
RC - does each state have a different language? America is not comparable to the UK aka ENGLAND
So you think stereotypes are accurate? I guess then that you must be a gun totting redneck who uses meth and sleeps with his sister? I mean that is a stereotype of people from the USA. I've not found it to be true, but it is a stereotype.
Not sure what you are meaning about your different language comment to RC as the parts of the UK use the same language. Even where historically there were older languages in use, they only have a few speakers in much the same way as parts of the US have people who speak native American languages. Yeah, some places will have duel language road signs and whatnot, but then again I've seen the same in the US with stuff being in English and Spanish. You are still wrong on England and the UK being the same thing, but hey you seem happy in your ignorance so I'll leave you to that (and besides you are quite amusing you with how wrong you are getting it). I would suggest though that the fact that Scotland recently voted to remain in the UK indicates that we don't hate each other that much, but feel free to cling to your outdated concepts. Just like the USA, not everyone gets along all the time but the differences are much less than you think. All in all, having spent a fair amount of time in both countries I'd have to say they have more in common than they have different.
Quote from: Alex on October 31, 2024, 03:00:02 AMQuote from: lester1/2jr on October 30, 2024, 11:20:11 PMAlex - you are feigning naivety. everyone is aware of the stereotype of Scots, Irish and Brits hating each other.
RC - does each state have a different language? America is not comparable to the UK aka ENGLAND
So you think stereotypes are accurate? I guess then that you must be a gun totting redneck who uses meth and sleeps with his sister? I mean that is a stereotype of people from the USA. I've not found it to be true, but it is a stereotype.
It's true around here in Lawton. Meth labs were blowing up every other day here in Lawton about 10 years ago!
And yes, Les, people speak different languages. I worked at Honee Bear Canning for 30 years, and most of my fellow workers were Mexicans. Spoke Spanish. My neighbors spoke Russian. My Grandma spoke Polish!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrunWjHz2PE "Which Country Do You HATE The Most? | DUBLIN, IRELAND"
RC- okay fine the 50 United States are exactly like Ireland Scotland and Britain
Quote from: lester1/2jr on October 31, 2024, 03:27:52 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrunWjHz2PE "Which Country Do You HATE The Most? | DUBLIN, IRELAND"
RC- okay fine the 50 United States are exactly like Ireland Scotland and Britain
OMG I nearly fell off my seat laughing here. Do you seriously not know that Dublin is in Ireland which is not part of the UK? You'd need to look for Northern Ireland.
As I said though, yes you'll find some people that do hate the other constituent countries of the UK, but it is nowhere near what you seem to think.
Thanks for that, you've really given me a good laugh tonight.
I'm finding this conversation very entertaining. As someone who has both US and UK citizenship, I can say that you will find most Brits while mocking one another don't actually hate each other, they save that feeling for other European Countries with France being a favourite target.
Quote from: lester1/2jr on October 30, 2024, 11:20:11 PMRC - does each state have a different language? America is not comparable to the UK aka ENGLAND
I also know that every US state has it's own dialect and slang so in a way you can say that yes they do all have their own language. And lets not even get started on accents. There is a distinct difference between a nasally Bostonian accent and a Georgian Southern drawl so you can't say that an Londonian accent is a different language than a Glaswegian accent unless you are prepared to say the same for the accents and dialects across the US.
You do understand that the United Kingdom consists of the following countries, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland (not Ireland that is a separate nation and not part of the United Kingdom)? Great Britain is made up of England, Scotland and Wales. I believe that when you are saying that England makes all the decisions you are referring to the Parliament of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland which meets at Westminister Palace in London, which is oddly enough made up of representatives from the four nations that make up the United Kingdom. Each nation does have its own statutory government that have different powers, rights and responsibilities than the national parliament, England does not make all of the decisions for the United Kingdom.
I wish that the US would spend more time exploring the history and cultures of other nations in its education system than it does. Many in the US tend to forget that they are not the only nation that matters, which shows in the lack of respect and knowledge they show for other countries. I for one would not dare argue with one of my Danish friends on their government policies and their culture because I have not lived it or studied it enough to give an educated opinion.
^ I sure don't understand a dam thing anyone from Louisiana says! (I'm NYC born)
Quote from: RCMerchant on October 31, 2024, 05:33:55 PM^ I sure don't understand a dam thing anyone from Louisiana says! (I'm NYC born)
I was born in Utah, lived there for 35 years and I definitely struggle to understand most people from Mississippi.
I struggle to understand myself sometimes 😳😉🐢
Alex- yeah I'm sure Northern Ireland has less hatred toward England
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-atLxy7uFcc Which Country Do You HATE The Most? | SCOTLAND
You mean the part of Ireland that threatened civil war if it wasn't allowed to remain in the UK rather than get independence with the rest of Ireland? The part of Ireland that repeatedly vetoed Brexit agreements if they felt it would in any way weaken their ties to "England"?
I'm pretty sure your have no idea what you are talking about, but feel free to keep providing laughs.
Since you like Youtube videos, have one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBSf2Hd-FGg
I mean if Youtube is your standard of proof, then you've just been proven wrong. I could walk down the street making a film on my phone about what countries they do or don't like, edit it so only certain replies show and then claim it was proof of whatever. Sorry, but you are going to have to do much better. As I've said not everyone likes everyone, but to claim that everyone hates each other is just beyond stupid. I don't know if you actually watched your video or you just googled and posted up without checking but it backs up my argument a lot more than it does yours. I mean thanks for helping me out, but honestly, you are doing terribly in this debate and I really don't need the assist.
Or how about an actual scientific study about which countries people in the UK hate. It's about 10 years old, but for our purposes, it still works.
QuoteTen most unfavourable countries.
1. Russia
2. North Korea
3. Israel
4. Iran
5. Pakistan
6. Ukraine
7. Nigeria
8. Saudi Arabia
9. Turkey
10. Argentina
Hmm. Not a single mention of one of the home nations.
Most favourable nations.
QuoteTen most favourable countries
1. Australia
2. Canada
3. USA
4. Netherlands
5. Sweden
6. Norway
7. Ireland
8. Germany
9. Italy
10. Spain
Hey look, here is a study on the most hated States within the US. Wow, I guess that means everyone over there much hate each other and themselves. At least by your standard of proof.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/most-hated-states
On a more serious note, congratulations on actually managing to get one of the right countries this time.
Alex - "Almost half of Northern Irish voters expect to rejoin the rest of Ireland within 20 years, and nearly 60% of Scots want some form of independence. Even in Wales, independence is favoured by almost a third." https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/feb/02/cardiff-edinburgh-devolved-labour-leadership-union
at any rate, the thread is about gold not the UK, other than it's decision to sell all of it's holdings of this metal at historic lows
I would suggest that the recent election where the SNP (the only party pushing for independence) lost serious amounts of support says that your newspaper report is incorrect (sadly because I'd quite like independence. Not because I hate the union or anything). Little hint for the future for ya, newspapers despite their name are not actually reliable sources of news. Any story published in one in the UK for example only has to contain 5% truth.
Let's ignore the facts though and take your report at face value. Even if a country wants its independence that is not the same thing as hating each other so yet again you have posted something up that doesn't back up your claim.
Yes, the thread was originally about gold but you did start going on about how much everyone in the UK hated each other. Anytime you want it to go back to that, just feel free to stop talking bollocks and go back to talking about gold.
Alex - You're nitpicking. We call the UK "England" here. You probably pronounce Oregon wrong it's not a big deal.
Also I sold my gold stuff, missing at least the last 100 dollars of profit so you can console yourself with that.
Quote from: lester1/2jr on November 01, 2024, 10:57:09 PMAlex - You're nitpicking. We call the UK "England" here. You probably pronounce Oregon wrong it's not a big deal.
Maybe those who didn't pay attention in school call the UK England in the US. I did love history and social studies as well and learning about my family heritage so I paid attention to things like that in school.
And how on earth do you think he'd pronounce Oregon??
^ He's Scottish, so however he'd pronounce it it'd sound fuggin' cool.... :smile:
I never call the UK "England," but yeah, a lot of Americans do.
England = the largest country in the UK
The UK = the political unit consisting of the individual states England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland
Britain or Great Britain = the island that England, Wales and Scotland are on
I've encountered some British people who don't seem to understand the distinction between the three.
Lester, I assume you profited on your gold trade so I wouldn't feel bad. I sold a bunch of Bitcoin when it first hit 10,000 dollars. Wish I could have a do-over, but I look at it as free money I made gambling.
You mean Oh-reh-guhn? Last time I sold my stocks and shares (2015/16) I made somewhere around £8000 to £9000 (with the exchange rate at the time it came in at a bit over $11,000 I believe). Might be worth you getting a stock broker and investing there. I started by investing £50 a month in something called ISAs and got an ok return out of it (roughly £6000 investment over a 10 year period, hardly spectacular returns but it did allow us to have a damn good holiday and buy a load of stuff for the house). Kristi says the US equivalent is a Roth IRA. Your bank should be able to put you in touch with a suitable investment group. You'll be able to tailor your investments according to how much you have available, your appetite for risk (I went with moderate risk, but high and low investments were also available with potentially higher and lower returns).
Quote from: ER on November 02, 2024, 08:14:10 AM^ He's Scottish, so however he'd pronounce it it'd sound fuggin' cool.... :smile:
He does have an awesome accent.
The only thing I have of any value is some old comic books.
Well, my house and land, I guess.
Ever had them valued RC?
Nah... I'm gonna leave them to my kids.
They can have a yard sale or something.
Rev- buy on the dips, sell on the rips
Gold is now trading at 3,044.50 USD on insane world events, tariffs, and lots of etceteras
QuoteMarch 18 (Reuters) - Gold prices rose 1% to hit a fresh record high on Tuesday, anchored above the $3,000/oz mark, as rising Middle East tensions and trade uncertainties due to U.S. President Donald Trump's tariff plans fueled demand for the safe-haven asset.