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Post by: Zapranoth on July 27, 2024, 09:45:23 AM
Christians, get out and vote, just this time," Trump exclaimed to a cheering crowd in West Palm Beach, Fla.

"You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what, it will be fixed, it will be fine, you won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians" he added.
"I love you Christians. I'm a Christian. I love you, get out, you gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don't have to vote again, we'll have it fixed so good you're not going to have to vote," Trump said.
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Post by: Alex on July 31, 2024, 03:33:30 AM
I think this is the first thing he's said that I've not heard his defenders jump in and say on no this is what he meant and then come up with some dumb ass excuse for him. Then again, I've stopped following the news as closely as I used to. Maybe they did and I just missed it.
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Post by: RCMerchant on July 31, 2024, 09:08:57 AM
The guys a fascist.
And his supporters claim to be patriotic. What a joke.

I'm voting Kamala. She's young, she's smart, and SHE is the true patriot.
I can't wait for this misogynistic fool to get his ass kicked by a Woman.

EDIT:

I just seen that she's ahead by 11 points in Michigan! Imma gonna make it 11.1!
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 02, 2024, 01:33:07 AM
" She was always of Indian heritage, and she was only promoting Indian heritage. I didn't know she was Black until a number of years ago, when she happened to turn Black, and now she wants to be known as Black. So I don't know, is she Indian or is she Black?" the former president said.


"I respect either one, but she obviously doesn't, because she was Indian all the way, and then all of a sudden she made a turn and she went – she became a Black person," he said at the National Association of Black Journalists convention. "I think somebody should look into that too."

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Post by: Zapranoth on August 02, 2024, 01:36:22 AM
I'll add this.  For you, RC.

https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/s/PfoSOTlIlH
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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 03, 2024, 12:57:51 AM
I think he's saying he's going to fix all the problems during his (prospective) term.

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Post by: Zapranoth on August 03, 2024, 01:04:37 AM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on August 03, 2024, 12:57:51 AMI think he's saying he's going to fix all the problems during his (prospective) term.



Including the problem of having democracy?   Lester.   I haven't had the best day, and I probably should recuse myself from polite company.     How can you interpret that he meant this in any other way, given his repeated calls for authoritarianism and violence?
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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 03, 2024, 01:25:06 AM
If he really felt that way why would he announce it to the world? it doesn't make any sense. forget the conspiracy theories, focus on his actual record if you want to him to go down in defeat. much more legit stuff there especially his Iran and Venezuela warmongering
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Post by: Alex on August 03, 2024, 04:50:10 AM
Well his actual record does include him saying he should get more than 2 terms and refusing to admit he was defeated so yeah, his quote stands alongside that perfectly well. As to why he would announce it, well the guy is arrogant enough to believe it is what people want.
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 03, 2024, 05:34:21 AM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on August 03, 2024, 01:25:06 AMIf he really felt that way why would he announce it to the world?

Why indeed?

(https://i.imgur.com/oAIMAxe.png) (https://lunapic.com)
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Post by: LilCerberus on August 03, 2024, 02:43:42 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on August 03, 2024, 05:34:21 AM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on August 03, 2024, 01:25:06 AMIf he really felt that way why would he announce it to the world?

Why indeed?

(https://i.imgur.com/oAIMAxe.png) (http://"https://lunapic.com")

Funny you keep pulling this guy out, while pro-Palestinian groups on American college campuses are saying that they wish he was still alive.....
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Post by: LilCerberus on August 03, 2024, 02:46:59 PM
Quote from: Zapranoth on August 03, 2024, 01:04:37 AM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on August 03, 2024, 12:57:51 AMI think he's saying he's going to fix all the problems during his (prospective) term.



Including the problem of having democracy?   Lester.   I haven't had the best day, and I probably should recuse myself from polite company.     How can you interpret that he meant this in any other way, given his repeated calls for authoritarianism and violence?

Like the way Biden said seventy-three million voters are a threat to his democracy???
Destroying democracy in order to save it, anybody????
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 03, 2024, 03:01:14 PM
^ Whta if? What about? Your an idiot.
Quote from: LilCerberus on August 03, 2024, 02:43:42 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on August 03, 2024, 05:34:21 AM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on August 03, 2024, 01:25:06 AMIf he really felt that way why would he announce it to the world?

Why indeed?

(https://i.imgur.com/oAIMAxe.png) (http://"http://"http://"http://"http://"https://lunapic.com""""")



Funny you keep pulling this guy out, while pro-Palestinian groups on American college campuses are saying that they wish he was still alive.....

I'm glad you think it's funny, says the guy who supports a man who has a Nazi (Nick Feuntes) to dinner, who tried a coup to overthrow an election by force, and is a blatant racist, supports dictatorships, and said this- "You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what, it will be fixed, it will be fine, you won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians" - which is where this thread started.
Hilarious.
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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 03, 2024, 04:13:01 PM
These are all just talking points and fluff. It started with this ridiculous fake story back in 2016 https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/04/politics/donald-trump-star-of-david-tweet-explained/index.html

People think if they unite around a phony take it will have some sort of effect. 

Not one person is going to not vote for Trump because he told a group of Christians he was going to do a lot for them. No committee no one has heard of is going to force him of the ballot for having done so, so why waste your energy?
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 03, 2024, 04:17:53 PM
So Jan. 6 was "fluff?" 
Because it looked like a failed "putsch" to me.
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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 03, 2024, 04:26:51 PM

You really believe he told this Christian group he was planning on taking over the government by force and they wouldn't need to vote again because he would be the dictator forever. You Swear to God you believe thats what he was saying?
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 03, 2024, 04:32:32 PM
^ He tried it once. Duh. What do YOU think he meant? The Second Coming?
And as for "forever",  no- because the old f**k's gonna keel over here in the not so distant future.

"Swear to God"?  Nyuk Nyuk.



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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 03, 2024, 04:38:49 PM
What did he try? Do you know what taking over the government would entail? the military, the courts all the different branches


""Swear to God"?  Nyuk Nyuk. "

exactly, because you don't really believe it.
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 03, 2024, 04:45:00 PM
I can't believe you can't believe that I believe.  :buggedout:

And it wouldn't do me or you much good if I swore to God because, golly gee, I'm an Atheist.
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Post by: Leah on August 03, 2024, 07:44:49 PM
I wonder how much longer this thread will be up before it gets locked.
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Post by: LilCerberus on August 03, 2024, 08:25:52 PM
Quote from: Leah on August 03, 2024, 07:44:49 PMI wonder how much longer this thread will be up before it gets locked.

Not until the profanities & namecalling starts.....
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 03, 2024, 09:16:51 PM
All I have done is post the things that he has said. Just a couple of the recent things, nothing exhaustive. The things that he says speak for themselves..

 In the spirit of the Olympics, I think I'll start handing out medals for the mental gymnastics People go through to justify the things that he says, and to decide which things he really means versus which things he really doesn't mean.  And things that sort of means.
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Post by: indianasmith on August 03, 2024, 10:09:00 PM
Quote from: Zapranoth on August 03, 2024, 09:16:51 PMAll I have done is post the things that he has said. Just a couple of the recent things, nothing exhaustive. The things that he says speak for themselves..

 In the spirit of the Olympics, I think I'll start handing out medals for the mental gymnastics People go through to justify the things that he says, and to decide which things he really means versus which things he really doesn't mean.  And things that sort of means.

Things like these make me miss the karma button!  Props to you, Zap!
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Post by: LilCerberus on August 03, 2024, 10:12:58 PM
Quote from: Zapranoth on August 03, 2024, 09:16:51 PMAll I have done is post the things that he has said. Just a couple of the recent things, nothing exhaustive. The things that he says speak for themselves..

 In the spirit of the Olympics, I think I'll start handing out medals for the mental gymnastics People go through to justify the things that he says, and to decide which things he really means versus which things he really doesn't mean.  And things that sort of means.

Yes, and considering the things he's actually said that have been grossly taken out of context by the press, then twisted into something he never said (nor meant) by political commentators, I can imagine gold painted rocks being thrown in every direction.....
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 03, 2024, 10:20:30 PM
...and you chasing them.  :lookingup:
Pointing out facts and truths  don't matter to you because you ignore them or call them lies.
Your in a CULT.
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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 04, 2024, 12:43:52 AM


Cerberus - lots of people on the right: Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Andrew Tate, are also critical of Israel. it's kind of a common sense opinion at this point
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 04, 2024, 01:23:25 AM
I'm trying to avoid invective and focus on what is said.   So, Cerberus, what has Trump said that was taken out of context?   Quote it directly and cite it.
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 04, 2024, 11:09:24 AM
I am waiting.
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Post by: LilCerberus on August 04, 2024, 11:55:21 AM
Quote from: Zapranoth on August 04, 2024, 01:23:25 AMI'm trying to avoid invective and focus on what is said.   So, Cerberus, what has Trump said that was taken out of context?   Quote it directly and cite it.

I'm  curious to know what what he said right before & right after that quote.
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Post by: LilCerberus on August 04, 2024, 12:31:35 PM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on August 04, 2024, 12:43:52 AMCerberus - lots of people on the right: Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Andrew Tate, are also critical of Israel. it's kind of a common sense opinion at this point

At this point, I can understand the criticism of Israel...
What I don't get are American anti-Semitic Pro-Palestinian groups attacking synagogues & clashing with capital police, while calling Trump Hitler, then turning around & saying they wish Hitler was still alive so he could kill all the Jews....
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 04, 2024, 02:12:44 PM
^ One guy at a rally made the Hitler comment. You act like ALL of them are saying it.
Now your using something said out of context.
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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 04, 2024, 02:34:01 PM
so it's another fake Trump controversy that everyone is getting behind but no one actually believes, like Russiagate. That's fine.

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Post by: Zapranoth on August 04, 2024, 11:33:38 PM
My thread is about bats**t crazy things that Trump said, Lester.  Not Israel Palestine WWIII Russiagate but the emails ramblings.    Let's keep this thread on topic.  Only a bronze for you.
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 04, 2024, 11:38:22 PM
Quote from: LilCerberus on August 04, 2024, 11:55:21 AM
Quote from: Zapranoth on August 04, 2024, 01:23:25 AMI'm trying to avoid invective and focus on what is said.   So, Cerberus, what has Trump said that was taken out of context?   Quote it directly and cite it.

I'm  curious to know what what he said right before & right after that quote.

He said,

" We have to win this election, most important election ever. We want a landslide that's too big to rig. If you want to save America, get your friends, get your family, get everyone you know and vote. Vote early, vote absentee, vote on Election Day. I don't care how, but you have to get out and vote. And again, Christians, get out and vote just this time. You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what? It'll be fixed, it'll be fine, you won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians.

"I love you, Christians. I'm a Christian. I love you, get out, you gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don't have to vote again, we'll have it fixed so good you're not going to have to vote."

Trump concluded his remarks by emphasizing the importance of faith throughout American history and lamenting that the nation is now in decline.

So, it doesn't feel like there was any spin or out of context here, unless my years getting that English degree were wasted.
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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 04, 2024, 11:59:58 PM
Quoteunless my years getting that English degree were wasted

That may well be the case. You clearly missed what he said.

and sorry for changing the subject I edited
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 05, 2024, 04:07:50 AM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on August 04, 2024, 11:59:58 PM
Quoteunless my years getting that English degree were wasted

That may well be the case. You clearly missed what he said.


^....and that would be?  :question:
Enlighten me with your deep insight, Prof. Lester.
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 05, 2024, 08:44:51 AM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on August 04, 2024, 11:59:58 PM
Quoteunless my years getting that English degree were wasted

That may well be the case. You clearly missed what he said.

and sorry for changing the subject I edited

How would "fixing" all the problems make voting obsolete? How does the one thing follow the other?  How would he mean that voting him in would let him fix, well, something, such that white Christians would never have to vote again?

Voting is necessary to have democracy.


Explain it to me again, how he is not saying that he will end democracy?
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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 05, 2024, 03:06:25 PM
Here he is explaining it

"That statement is very simple. I said, 'Vote for me, you're not going to have to do it ever again.' It's true, because we have to get the vote out. Christians are not known as a big voting group," Trump said.

"This time, vote. I'll straighten out the country, you won't have to vote anymore. I won't need your vote. You can go back to not voting," he added.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4799157-ingraham-donald-trump-christians-vote-anymore/




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Post by: LilCerberus on August 05, 2024, 03:22:13 PM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on August 05, 2024, 03:06:25 PMHere he is explaining it

"That statement is very simple. I said, 'Vote for me, you're not going to have to do it ever again.' It's true, because we have to get the vote out. Christians are not known as a big voting group," Trump said.

"This time, vote. I'll straighten out the country, you won't have to vote anymore. I won't need your vote. You can go back to not voting," he added.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4799157-ingraham-donald-trump-christians-vote-anymore/






Kinda what I figured......
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 05, 2024, 04:39:29 PM
^^ Pretty lame back-peddling. Bulls**t.
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 07, 2024, 01:39:44 PM
""She was always of Indian heritage, and she was only promoting Indian heritage. I didn't know she was Black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn Black and now, she wants to be known as Black.  So I don't know, is she Indian or is she Black?"

"I respect either one, but she obviously doesn't because she was Indian all the way and then all of a sudden she made a turn and she went, she became a Black person.  Someone should look into that."

"I've been the best president for the Black population since Abraham Lincoln."

"A lot of the journalists in this room are Black.  I will tell you that coming from the border are millions and millions of people that happen to be taking Black jobs."

"A Black job is anybody that has a job, that's what it is. They're taking the employment away from Black people."
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 07, 2024, 03:22:24 PM
 :bluesad:
Is he racist or stupid? Or both?
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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 07, 2024, 03:25:36 PM
What am I looking for here with this new one?
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 07, 2024, 05:39:41 PM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on August 07, 2024, 03:25:36 PMWhat am I looking for here with this new one?

Old school racism.  C'mon, Lester.  At this rate, you aren't even going to make it on the podium.
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Post by: LilCerberus on August 07, 2024, 06:01:25 PM
You guys are still fuming over this?
Sheesh!
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 07, 2024, 07:05:21 PM
Quote from: LilCerberus on August 07, 2024, 06:01:25 PMYou guys are still fuming over this?
Sheesh!

All I'm doing is posting quotations, just writing out his words.  Even I learned new things every day, like that you can decide to turn black one day. The world is so complex.  Multiracial people exist?
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Post by: LilCerberus on August 07, 2024, 07:38:39 PM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on August 07, 2024, 03:25:36 PMWhat am I looking for here with this new one?

From the selective nature of these quotes, I'm assuming Zapranoth didn't hear what Rachel Scott said to tick Trump off, or when Trump revealed the lie the got him on that stage in the first place....

That, & he probably doesn't want anybody talking about Tim Walz.....
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 07, 2024, 07:40:42 PM
^ Huh?
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 07, 2024, 09:58:12 PM
Quote from: LilCerberus on August 07, 2024, 07:38:39 PM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on August 07, 2024, 03:25:36 PMWhat am I looking for here with this new one?

From the selective nature of these quotes, I'm assuming Zapranoth didn't hear what Rachel Scott said to tick Trump off, or when Trump revealed the lie the got him on that stage in the first place....

That, & he probably doesn't want anybody talking about Tim Walz.....

Myaaah.  You get a silver, that's pretty good.   

This is my thread, no whataboutism allowed here.  (If you would like a different thread about Walz, and perhaps about the couch-f**ker, feel free to make it.). I'm bringing up things Trump said.  Have you watched the whole interview from which I quoted? 

He was at A BLACK JOURNALIST GATHERING and talked about Harris up and deciding to be black one day, when she has always identified as black, was in a black sorority, etc, etc.  before that he was asked if Harris is a "DEI hire."  He tried to avoid the question but the interviewer was not having it.  The DrumpfenFuhrer didn't want any fact checking on stage.    You know, like Gorman in Aliens.  "Uh, Apone.  We can't have any fact checking in there."

If you would like to post out the whole interview transcript and deconstruct it, that'd be great.
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Post by: LilCerberus on August 07, 2024, 10:36:35 PM
Whataboutism? The timing is suspect especially after right wing networks were talking about this a week ago...
And your "quotes" don't exactly capture the crowd's reaction...
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 07, 2024, 10:57:42 PM
Quote from: LilCerberus on August 07, 2024, 10:36:35 PMWhataboutism? The timing is suspect especially after right wing networks were talking about this a week ago...
And your "quotes" don't exactly capture the crowd's reaction...

I don't understand the relevance of anything you said. 
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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 08, 2024, 12:05:34 AM
Neither Trump making fun of kamala Harris or Tim Walz's alleged stolen valor will have any effect on anything.

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Post by: RCMerchant on August 08, 2024, 11:05:21 AM
^ Racism is not "making fun." 
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 08, 2024, 12:05:35 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on August 08, 2024, 11:05:21 AM^ Racism is not "making fun." 

A thousand times, this.
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Post by: LilCerberus on August 08, 2024, 12:50:05 PM
^I dunno, The Crowd seemed to agree with him...^
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 08, 2024, 01:06:09 PM
^ Have you lost your mind? That was a crowd of black journalists. Laughing at him is not the same as laughing with him.
Did you think it was funny?
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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 09, 2024, 12:09:29 AM
Quote^ Have you lost your mind? That was a crowd of black journalists. Laughing at him is not the same as laughing with him.

Flabb-O

what's next?
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 09, 2024, 02:46:09 AM
^ What a thought out comeback. You do as well in this debate as Trump will in his next one.  :bouncegiggle:
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 09, 2024, 09:41:38 AM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on August 09, 2024, 12:09:29 AM
Quote^ Have you lost your mind? That was a crowd of black journalists. Laughing at him is not the same as laughing with him.

Flabb-O

what's next?


Don't really understand what you are saying.

1.  Was his behavior at the conference racist?
2.   Since the answer to #1 is yes, are you okay with a racist presidential candidate in this year 2024?
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 09, 2024, 01:03:20 PM
" "You'll never believe the things he believes in.  He believes in...things.  Things nobody knew were possible.  And only he believes them.  We don't know what to think of these things.  And he thinks them.  Often."

There.  I included something about Walz.
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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 09, 2024, 01:50:05 PM
RC - all of your arguments are just stuff you make up that can't be proven. Trump explains what he meant about not voting. You said "he's walking it back" He wasn't. The mostly black crowd laughs at Trumps alleged racism "they're laughing at him not with him" no they weren't.

That's what I meant by Flabb-o it's flabby.
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 09, 2024, 02:03:57 PM
^ You are blind.  :lookingup: Trump is racist. They must have some good Kool-Aid in Trumplandia.
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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 09, 2024, 02:34:43 PM
Are all the black people in the audience who laughed along with his jokes racist too?
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 09, 2024, 03:20:53 PM
Hoo-boy. I'm done talking to lemmings. 
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 09, 2024, 06:25:29 PM
Then there is this

https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/s/0lm5RmUDQ3
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 09, 2024, 07:05:56 PM
& Like I said before- walking back...
The guys a pathological liar.
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 09, 2024, 09:00:17 PM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on August 09, 2024, 02:34:43 PMAre all the black people in the audience who laughed along with his jokes racist too?

Sure!

But no reasonable person took that reaction from the crowd. Have you actually watched the video and listened to it? Those sounds from the crowd were disgust, consternation.  A sort of "holy f**k he said that!  Here!"

I don't mean this in a brutal way, but are you on the spectrum or something? Do you just miss social cues? Because nobody who watches that video would otherwise think that that crowd was laughing *along* with what Trump was saying.  My youngest daughter has that problem.
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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 09, 2024, 11:18:10 PM
here's the clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BURiu_OvWdU decide for yourselves. It seems like he told a joke and they laughed? 

Trump donated to her campaign for AG of California in 2011 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-donated-kamala-harris-campaign-california-attorney-general/ so he's been aware of her longer than most people.

She's a politician. She's slimy they all are including Trump
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 10, 2024, 12:41:54 AM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on August 09, 2024, 11:18:10 PMhere's the clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BURiu_OvWdU decide for yourselves. It seems like he told a joke and they laughed? 

Trump donated to her campaign for AG of California in 2011 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-donated-kamala-harris-campaign-california-attorney-general/ so he's been aware of her longer than most people.

She's a politician. She's slimy they all are including Trump

I totally, 100% don't get the you're "they're all equally bad" mindset, which is what you imply in saying "they all are including..."     They aren't all equally bad.  One of them will obliterate what is left of our democracy, and the other will probably try to rein in the Supreme Court, hopefully work against big pharma, work on our out of control healthcare industry (which I work in), and so on.  A progressive agenda, an agenda that is popular.  And, you know, f**kin' climate change, work on that so that we have a world for our children to live in.

It's like those people who say "I'm a one-issue voter."  (Abortion.)  As though standing on just one issue is a morally reasonable thing to do, instead of being a totally shut your goddamn brain off and be a lazy non-citizen way to act.
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Post by: indianasmith on August 10, 2024, 07:23:18 AM
As a former Republican, I simply can't buy the "Oh, the Democrats are just as bad" act.
I don't see Democrats storming the Capitol, assaulting police, and I certainly can't recall Democrats chanting to hang a Vice President they voted for - and building a gallows to do it outside the Capitol grounds!
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 10, 2024, 09:25:55 AM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on August 09, 2024, 11:18:10 PMhere's the clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BURiu_OvWdU decide for yourselves. It seems like he told a joke and they laughed? 

Trump donated to her campaign for AG of California in 2011 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-donated-kamala-harris-campaign-california-attorney-general/ so he's been aware of her longer than most people.

She's a politician. She's slimy they all are including Trump

Their laughter is stunned derision, Lester.  They're laughing *at* him, not with.
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 10, 2024, 11:01:33 AM
And then there is this partial transcript from his recent, uh, press conference?
It's wayyy to much for me to retype.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/s/Smo5rT60IS
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 10, 2024, 11:51:07 AM
I'm just glad this should be his last hurrah. Sadly, his brand of hate and intolerance has spawned a slew of MAGA minded cultists and sycophants in his wake.
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Post by: LilCerberus on August 10, 2024, 01:02:28 PM
Quote from: Zapranoth on August 10, 2024, 12:41:54 AM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on August 09, 2024, 11:18:10 PMhere's the clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BURiu_OvWdU decide for yourselves. It seems like he told a joke and they laughed? 

Trump donated to her campaign for AG of California in 2011 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-donated-kamala-harris-campaign-california-attorney-general/ so he's been aware of her longer than most people.

She's a politician. She's slimy they all are including Trump

I totally, 100% don't get the you're "they're all equally bad" mindset, which is what you imply in saying "they all are including..."     They aren't all equally bad.  One of them will obliterate what is left of our democracy, and the other will probably try to rein in the Supreme Court, hopefully work against big pharma, work on our out of control healthcare industry (which I work in), and so on.  A progressive agenda, an agenda that is popular.  And, you know, f**kin' climate change, work on that so that we have a world for our children to live in.

It's like those people who say "I'm a one-issue voter."  (Abortion.)  As though standing on just one issue is a morally reasonable thing to do, instead of being a totally shut your goddamn brain off and be a lazy non-citizen way to act.

Okay, you don't have to sell him to me.
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Post by: LilCerberus on August 10, 2024, 01:09:14 PM
Quote from: indianasmith on August 10, 2024, 07:23:18 AMAs a former Republican, I simply can't buy the "Oh, the Democrats are just as bad" act.
I don't see Democrats storming the Capitol, assaulting police, and I certainly can't recall Democrats chanting to hang a Vice President they voted for - and building a gallows to do it outside the Capitol grounds!

You must not recall the Kavanaugh hearings, or when the Floyd riots (started by Tim Walz) came to DC (Luckily, congress was out for the season), or most recently, Hamas supporters protesting at the capital....
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 10, 2024, 01:40:20 PM
Ok- go vote for the race-baiting, hate-mongering, lying, stealing, traitorous felon. I see where your moral compass points.
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 10, 2024, 01:53:27 PM
Walz *started* the Floyd riots?

Source for this malarkey?
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Post by: LilCerberus on August 10, 2024, 02:21:12 PM
Quote from: Zapranoth on August 10, 2024, 01:53:27 PMWalz *started* the Floyd riots?

Source for this malarkey?

Started in Minneapolis, & he refused to call the National Guard until his own safety was in jeopardy.
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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 10, 2024, 02:32:58 PM
QuoteTheir laughter is stunned derision, Lester.  They're laughing *at* him, not with.

RC said the same thing, It's a cope. like I said everyone can watch the clip and judge for themselves. occum's razor: he told a joke and they laughed.


QuoteI totally, 100% don't get the you're "they're all equally bad" mindset

QuoteAs a former Republican, I simply can't buy the "Oh, the Democrats are just as bad" act.

I never said this. I said all politicians are slimy, not that they are equally bad. I think Kamala Harris is much worse than Trump, who was much worse than Ron Paul
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 10, 2024, 04:48:09 PM
How is Harris much worse than Trump?

I challenge any ten people reading this to watch the clip and answer, were they laughing with Trump?  Or were they f**king gobsmacked by his inability to understand multiracialism?
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Post by: LilCerberus on August 10, 2024, 05:03:27 PM
Quote from: Zapranoth on August 10, 2024, 04:48:09 PMHow is Harris much worse than Trump?

I challenge any ten people reading this to watch the clip and answer, were they laughing with Trump?  Or were they f**king gobsmacked by his inability to understand multiracialism?

You already listed several reasons people don't want Harris.
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 10, 2024, 06:47:43 PM
Quote from: LilCerberus on August 10, 2024, 05:03:27 PM
Quote from: Zapranoth on August 10, 2024, 04:48:09 PMHow is Harris much worse than Trump?

I challenge any ten people reading this to watch the clip and answer, were they laughing with Trump?  Or were they f**king gobsmacked by his inability to understand multiracialism?

You already listed several reasons people don't want Harris.

I know you are, but what am I?

(That is meant to summarize the emotional valence of exchange with you on this topic.)

I think in November we will see which policies people want and which ones they don't.   The Repubs f**ked up really bigly, huuuge, bigger than anything you've ever seen, when they kissed Trump's ring.
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 10, 2024, 08:57:05 PM
Fact is, Biden was not very populAR in 2020, and he still beat Trump. Now we got Kamala Harris, and she is a smash hit in all major polls. Short of commiting a major crime (oh yeah, that's Trump's bag), she's gonna smoke his doors. Even Republicans in Arizona are switching sides1
Stick a fork in Trump's hefty ass-he's done.

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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 10, 2024, 11:50:16 PM
Quotegobsmacked

???? Are you british? ? 

Quotemultiracialism?

I've never heard an American use the words gobsmacked or multiracialism
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 11, 2024, 09:47:42 AM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on August 10, 2024, 11:50:16 PM
Quotegobsmacked

???? Are you british? ? 

Quotemultiracialism?

I've never heard an American use the words gobsmacked or multiracialism

Let's not swerve off topic.  I think you meant something more like

Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, build a fortune - are you British? Or, as I have been saying for a long time, and I think you'll agree, because I said it to you once, I've never heard an American say gobsmacked. I love the Mexican and Chinese people, and they love me, especially the rich ones who buy my apartments or stay at my hotels or play on my golf courses.

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Post by: Zapranoth on August 11, 2024, 10:06:48 AM
Quote from: LilCerberus on August 10, 2024, 05:03:27 PM
Quote from: Zapranoth on August 10, 2024, 04:48:09 PMHow is Harris much worse than Trump?

I challenge any ten people reading this to watch the clip and answer, were they laughing with Trump?  Or were they f**king gobsmacked by his inability to understand multiracialism?

You already listed several reasons people don't want Harris.

FTFY:
A person who is very flat-chested is very hard to be a 10, but you already listed several reasons people don't want Harris. She spent hundreds of millions of dollars on negative ads about me, many of which are untrue... It's not nice and I don't deserve that.
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 11, 2024, 12:22:06 PM
^ You forgot to mention how your better at golf. And How your crowd size is bigger than MLK. Or how great a man Hannibal Lectur is. Or sharks. Ya know, things people need to have in a President.
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Post by: indianasmith on August 11, 2024, 03:30:42 PM
And you need to throw in: "many people are saying . . ." before tossing out some outrageous lie, and then follow it up with: "Someone ought to look into that."
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 11, 2024, 03:40:12 PM
Now he's saying the crowd size in Kamala's crowd is "AI". He typed it on "X".
The guy's lost his marbles.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/11/trump-harris-rally-crowd-ai-conspiracy.html
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Post by: LilCerberus on August 11, 2024, 03:44:06 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on August 11, 2024, 03:40:12 PMNow he's saying the crowd size in Kamala's crowd is "AI". He typed it on "X".
The guy's lost his marbles.

Eh, there's a video goin' around on X, but I don't know if it's legit or not.....
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 11, 2024, 03:45:50 PM
Of course it's AI ! I mean, it's on X!  :bouncegiggle:  :bouncegiggle:  :bouncegiggle:
There's a picture of Trump in a Cowboy suit too! Legit as hell! And Trump with an M-16 in cameo!

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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 11, 2024, 11:48:15 PM
I'm gobsmacked that Indianasmith appears to be identifying as a democrat now
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 12, 2024, 10:52:01 AM
Nobody has more respect for women than me, as I have often said, i'm gobsmacked that Indianasmith appears to be identifying as a democrat now. All talk, no action, sounds good, never going to work.
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Post by: indianasmith on August 12, 2024, 10:30:27 PM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on August 11, 2024, 11:48:15 PMI'm gobsmacked that Indianasmith appears to be identifying as a democrat now

There are many issues on which I will never agree with Democrats.
But I have left the Republican Party forever, because the party of Reagan no longer exists.
This bizarre personality cult in which every single ethical position must be abandoned at the whim of one man; in which criticism and dissent are not allowed, in which ignorance is worshiped and rudeness mandatory, would make the Gipper spin in his grave.

I hope that a new center right party will form when all this is over that I can support, but that will not happen until the Trump-infected GOP is burned to the ground and banished forever from the American body politic.
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 12, 2024, 11:02:52 PM
Trump's not for Republicans. He never was. He's not even for his brainwashed followers.
He's been for himself since day f**king one, not only since 2016, but all his LIFE. Christ- he has the mother of his children buried in the weeds at a golf course!
He uses and tosses away everyone- and that means his loyal MAGA hat wearing dupes. As he said about our service men-"Their suckers and losers".
The guys an abomination.

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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 12, 2024, 11:36:25 PM
Indiana - Reagan campaigned for Goldwater. Pat Buchanan was his press secretary. center right?
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Post by: LilCerberus on August 13, 2024, 12:23:44 PM
Maybe people want cheap gasoline & a secure border....
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 13, 2024, 12:44:13 PM
^ The blithering idiot that was with Elon Musk the other day?
He's gonna go and get that for you, huh?  :bouncegiggle: 

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Post by: LilCerberus on August 13, 2024, 01:17:42 PM
The blithering idiot was able to do it last time, unlike Harris, who couldn't be bothered for three years.
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 13, 2024, 07:38:29 PM
Hmm... Harris wasn't the President for 3 years. So yeah...there's that... :lookingup:
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Post by: indianasmith on August 13, 2024, 10:47:11 PM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on August 12, 2024, 11:36:25 PMIndiana - Reagan campaigned for Goldwater. Pat Buchanan was his press secretary. center right?

Buchanan has grown increasingly radical with age (and I think he was a speechwriter, not press secretary).
But compared to today's GOP, Reagan was pretty darned centrist.
At least he understood that Russia was the villain.
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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 14, 2024, 12:09:45 AM
He was apparently communications director? and "special consultant". He hasn't grown radical he's always had the same principle of conservatism: conserving America.


QuoteAt least he understood that Russia was the villain.

The Soviet union was the villain. Communism was the villain. Russia is a country of human beings. They, Iran, and China are ancient powers it's a big world, man
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Post by: indianasmith on August 14, 2024, 05:44:36 AM
Russia is led by an aggressive tyrant who invades his neighbors and murders his opponents and critics.
And Russian soldiers are murderous, raping barbarians.
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 14, 2024, 08:51:05 AM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on August 14, 2024, 12:09:45 AMHe was apparently communications director? and "special consultant". He hasn't grown radical he's always had the same principle of conservatism: conserving America.


QuoteAt least he understood that Russia was the villain.

The Soviet union was the villain. Communism was the villain. Russia is a country of human beings. They, Iran, and China are ancient powers it's a big world, man

Take a few minutes and just look up how many of Putin's critics fell out of tall buildings. Just read that for a little while. And nothing else.

All countries are countries of human beings. But some of their governments are irredeemable.

Now quit derailing.  We have another Trump rally today, and so later today there will be more quotations for the thread.
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 14, 2024, 09:01:44 AM
This legend is a good time filler.

I moved on her like a b***h. But I couldn't get there. And she was married. You know, I'm automatically attracted to beautiful - I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they
let you do it. You can do anything.
Grab 'em by the p***y.
You can do anything.
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Post by: LilCerberus on August 14, 2024, 11:27:04 AM
Quote from: RCMerchant on August 13, 2024, 07:38:29 PMHmm... Harris wasn't the President for 3 years. So yeah...there's that... :lookingup:
But she was "Border Czar" for three years.
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 14, 2024, 12:30:27 PM
Quote from: LilCerberus on August 14, 2024, 11:27:04 AM
Quote from: RCMerchant on August 13, 2024, 07:38:29 PMHmm... Harris wasn't the President for 3 years. So yeah...there's that... :lookingup:
But she was "Border Czar" for three years.

Get used to saying these words for the next four years, possibly eight:

"Madame President."

Or as Trump would say,

I know words, I have the best words, like madame President. I'll compare my IQ with anybody, okay?
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Post by: RCMerchant on August 14, 2024, 12:48:34 PM
Quote from: LilCerberus on August 14, 2024, 11:27:04 AM
Quote from: RCMerchant on August 13, 2024, 07:38:29 PMHmm... Harris wasn't the President for 3 years. So yeah...there's that... :lookingup:
But she was "Border Czar" for three years.

A Mexican gonna take your job or something?
She didn't waste money on a useless wall.  It's not like Mexicans  don't have the technology to, I dunno...dig holes. Cheez.
I'll tell you what she didn't do- she didn't inter children in cages with tin-foil blankets and separate them from their mothers, which is beyond cruel.
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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 14, 2024, 02:49:29 PM
indiana - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-war-idf-palestinian-prisoner-alleged-rape-sde-teinman-abuse-protest/

"Lawmaker Hanoch Milwidsky was asked as he defended the alleged abuse whether it was legitimate, "to insert a stick into a person's rectum?"

"Yes!" he shouted in reply to his fellow parliamentarian. "If he is a Nukhba [Hamas militant], everything is legitimate to do! Everything!"



many of our allies aren't western peoples that share our values either.

Zap - my apologies, man


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Post by: indianasmith on August 14, 2024, 05:18:14 PM
Atrocities beget atrocities.
If Hamas quit attacking Israel tomorrow, and returned the hostages they still hold, there would be peace.
If Israel lays down its arms, there will be a second holocaust.
That's the truth of the matter.
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 14, 2024, 07:34:32 PM
Thread isn't about Israel though that is a worthy subject.

It's about the Donald and his hateful spew. 
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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 14, 2024, 10:56:49 PM
loving spew!


QuoteAtrocities beget atrocities.

which covenant are you preaching these days?
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Post by: indianasmith on August 15, 2024, 06:22:19 AM
Just observing facts.  After what Hamas did to civilian women and children on October 7 last year, I'm surprised Israeli soldiers haven't done even worse.
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 15, 2024, 12:02:05 PM
Then there's this

Racist Trump War Room Tweet (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-campaign-racist-tweet_n_66bbb3e5e4b03d1ac02d6548)

Hey guys, know what the thing is called that moves your bike's chain from one gear to another?
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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 15, 2024, 01:40:40 PM
Zap - I'll move on but...

QuoteI'm surprised Israeli soldiers haven't done even worse.

worse than anally raping prisoners? which the society and government then applauds and defends
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Post by: Zapranoth on August 15, 2024, 02:16:24 PM
It's called a derailleur which means "a derailer" in French.
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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 15, 2024, 02:17:16 PM
okay I'm done
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Post by: lester1/2jr on August 20, 2024, 10:03:48 PM
here's a crazy one


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