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Poll
Question: how many have you seen?
Option 1: Halloween 1978 votes: 8
Option 2: A Nightmare on Elm Street 1984 votes: 8
Option 3: Friday the 13th 1980 votes: 7
Option 4: Halloween II 1981 votes: 7
Option 5: Friday the 13th Part 2 1981 votes: 7
Option 6: Dressed to Kill 1980 votes: 6
Option 7: Body Double 1984 votes: 7
Option 8: Sleepaway Camp 1983 votes: 6
Option 9: Psycho II 1983 votes: 8
Option 10: Cruising 1980 votes: 2
Option 11: Tenebrae 1982 votes: 6
Option 12: My Bloody Valentine 1981 votes: 6
Option 13: The Burning 1981 votes: 7
Option 14: Maniac 1980 votes: 8
Option 15: The House by the Cemetery 1981 votes: 7
Option 16: When a Stranger Calls 1979 votes: 4
Option 17: Magic 1978 votes: 4
Option 18: The New York Ripper 1982 votes: 3
Option 19: Eyes of Laura Mars 1978 votes: 4
Option 20: 10 to Midnight 1983 votes: 3
Option 21: Dark Night of the Scarecrow 1981 votes: 4
Option 22: Butcher, Baker, Nightmare Maker 1981 votes: 1
Option 23: Fade to Black 1980 votes: 3
Option 24: Next of Kin 1982 votes: 1
Option 25: The Bloodstained Shadow 1978 votes: 0
Option 26: Don't Go to Sleep 1982 votes: 2
Title: 1978 - 1984: The Golden Age of Slasher Films (The Good)
Post by: claws on February 22, 2025, 12:45:58 AM
Titles provided by Wikipedia. How many have you seen?
Title: Re: 1978 - 1984: The Golden Age of Slasher Films (The Good)
Post by: Trevor on February 22, 2025, 01:04:12 AM
19 for me.
Title: Re: 1978 - 1984: The Golden Age of Slasher Films (The Good)
Post by: zombie no.one on February 22, 2025, 04:55:25 AM
Seen: 16

Currently own on DVD/Bluray: 6

Never heard of before: 4

TENEBRAE and NEW YORK RIPPER are my favourite Argento and Fulci movies, respectively
Title: Re: 1978 - 1984: The Golden Age of Slasher Films (The Good)
Post by: RCMerchant on February 22, 2025, 09:05:15 AM
19.
I seen HALLOWEEN (1978), WHEN A STRANGER CALLS (1979), and FADE TO BLACK (1980) on their first release to theaters.
(All at the Strand in Paw Paw, MI., to be exact.)
How does HOUSE BY THE CEMETARY (1981) qualify as a "slasher"?
It's more a ghost/zombie film.
Title: Re: 1978 - 1984: The Golden Age of Slasher Films (The Good)
Post by: M.10rda on February 22, 2025, 11:35:13 AM
15/26.

These lists are silly (I presume that's on Wikipedia, not Claws). A lot of F13 afficionados have come to appreciate 3D (which is on the bad list) over the first two. It does have marginally more dramatic structure and a couple of more memorable characters!

And yeah, HBTC is slasher-adjacent, at best. Also, it was long considered a "bad" movie, even by me. It's good to see it's switched (nebulous!) lists...! It definitely has 2 or 3 exemplary moments of horror, plus an ending that has to be one of the (or The) most tasteful, understated, and enigmatic resolutions in Italian splatter history!
Title: Re: 1978 - 1984: The Golden Age of Slasher Films (The Good)
Post by: claws on February 22, 2025, 03:51:27 PM
What qualifies as a slasher? A killer stalking and murdering a group of people. Apparently the killer doesn't always need to wear a mask, and apparently only one death/kill is enough to qualify as a slasher.

Some may agree or disagree on that, and I used wiki titles in order to dodge the blame  :wink:
Title: Re: 1978 - 1984: The Golden Age of Slasher Films (The Good)
Post by: RCMerchant on February 22, 2025, 04:19:37 PM
But HOUSE BY THE CEMETARY doesn't have a knife wielding killer.
It has ghosts and zombies. So if ghosts and zombies without weapons qualify as "slashers" then all zombie movies fit?
What does Wiki know?
Title: Re: 1978 - 1984: The Golden Age of Slasher Films (The Good)
Post by: zombie no.one on February 22, 2025, 04:55:17 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on February 22, 2025, 04:19:37 PMBut HOUSE BY THE CEMETARY doesn't have a knife wielding killer.
It has ghosts and zombies. So if ghosts and zombies without weapons qualify as "slashers" then all zombie movies fit?
What does Wiki know?


yeah I agree. that one's Fulci in supernatural horror mode... NEW YORK RIPPER is way more into 'slasher' territory, although I suppose you could very loosely call it a giallo (ditto TENEBRAE)

....but, labels schmlabels  :bouncegiggle: 
Title: Re: 1978 - 1984: The Golden Age of Slasher Films (The Good)
Post by: claws on February 22, 2025, 05:14:55 PM
People do get killed in House By the Cemetery in a slasher-like manner (especially in the opening scene)

(https://www.moriareviews.com/rongulator/wp-content/uploads/House-By-the-Cemetery-1981-5.jpg)
(https://i0.wp.com/bloody-disgusting.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/House-by-the-Cemetery-Ann.jpg?resize=740%2C312&ssl=1)
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTouZOfJ61NBWjqhgdB9xkPDT5o8FKv0eNhBw&s)

it may be a supernatural slasher, just like Nightmare on Elm Street for example. Doesn't matter if the killer is a zombie or ghost.
Title: Re: 1978 - 1984: The Golden Age of Slasher Films (The Good)
Post by: RCMerchant on February 22, 2025, 05:17:50 PM
^ I dunno- I don't count it a a slasher.
If so, then BURIAL GROUND: NIGHTS OF TERROR (1983) is a slasher-and it's not. It's a Zombie movie.

ABSURD (1981) is an Italian slasher I love.


(https://i.imgur.com/VovGsvE.jpeg) (https://lunapic.com/)
Title: Re: 1978 - 1984: The Golden Age of Slasher Films (The Good)
Post by: claws on February 22, 2025, 05:43:03 PM
Well, Burial Ground doesn't have slasher scenes like this

(https://bmovieenema.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/house-by-the-cemetery-2.gif?w=480)

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/a85d38588d18119ef8fce06af71f210d/tumblr_p2nytenXcO1rgmfmpo1_400.gif)

or a bloody knife on the poster :teddyr:

(https://revuecinema.ca/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/quella_villa_accanto_al_cimitero_tmdb-rnprf8eehgqx4w2rvzz4c1m4ol-682x1024.jpg)





Title: Re: 1978 - 1984: The Golden Age of Slasher Films (The Good)
Post by: zombie no.one on February 22, 2025, 06:41:26 PM
I think the 'slasher' definition is as much about general vibe / atmosphere as anything else...

in my opinion there's a certain popcorn(y), trashy, adolescent energy to a 'slasher' that is not necessarily connected to how the kills go, or how the plot unwinds.

- obviously certain key things have to be present and  happen as well
Title: Re: 1978 - 1984: The Golden Age of Slasher Films (The Good)
Post by: claws on February 22, 2025, 07:37:34 PM
Yeah, it's like splitting hairs. Everybody has their own definition. In case of House by the Cemetery

Quotethe plot revolves around a series of murders committed by a ghoulish and demonic serial killer taking place in a Massachusetts home that happens to be hiding a gruesome secret within its basement walls.

There's obviously more going on in House by the Cemetery, but one shouldn't dismiss its slasher elements.

Title: Re: 1978 - 1984: The Golden Age of Slasher Films (The Good)
Post by: M.10rda on February 23, 2025, 01:35:38 PM
Debates like this are why I joined an online movie community!  :bouncegiggle:  :cheers:

It's cool, I ain't mad about it.

ABSURD is a cool movie and seems more like a slasher film, but the slasher played by George Eastman is a zombie.  :teddyr: I don't recall him eating anyone in ABSURD, though he does in the previous movie. But he's definitely un/dead. I guess no reason why we can't have it both ways!
Title: Re: 1978 - 1984: The Golden Age of Slasher Films (The Good)
Post by: RCMerchant on February 23, 2025, 02:34:26 PM
^ Jason is a zombie. He's a kid from the bottom of a lake. And Michael Myers has been killed umpteenth times. So is he's a zombie too? But I don't consider HALLOWEEN a zombie movie.
Title: Re: 1978 - 1984: The Golden Age of Slasher Films (The Good)
Post by: FatFreddysCat on February 23, 2025, 03:24:23 PM
I've seen 15.

MADMAN should be on this list!
Title: Re: 1978 - 1984: The Golden Age of Slasher Films (The Good)
Post by: M.10rda on February 23, 2025, 03:27:02 PM
Yeah, MADMAN is pretty great.

I do consider Jason a zombie!

I don't know what I consider Michael Myers... an overextended plot device? I try not to think too hard about the rationale behind HALLOWEEN lore.
Title: Re: 1978 - 1984: The Golden Age of Slasher Films (The Good)
Post by: zombie no.one on February 23, 2025, 05:43:34 PM
Quote from: M.10rda on February 23, 2025, 01:35:38 PMABSURD is a cool movie and seems more like a slasher film, but the slasher played by George Eastman is a zombie.  :teddyr: I don't recall him eating anyone in ABSURD, though he does in the previous movie. But he's definitely un/dead. I guess no reason why we can't have it both ways!

I like ABSURD, it's dark one... but if I could change 1 thing it would be the endlessly repeating soundtrack/score! did my head in after a while


Quote from: RCMerchant on February 23, 2025, 02:34:26 PM^ Jason is a zombie. He's a kid from the bottom of a lake. And Michael Myers has been killed umpteenth times. So is he's a zombie too? But I don't consider HALLOWEEN a zombie movie.

don't forget in the original FRIDAY 13TH there's no supernatural element... brought in for part 2. so the first one at least is a 'bona fide' slasher