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Title: Well, if AI says this is the truth...
Post by: Alex on January 01, 2026, 03:12:17 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/new-evidence-shows-that-jesus-was-never-crucified-and-ai-can-prove-it-without-doubt/ar-AA1Toz6n?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=6956d43c63f64357876948fd69499d67&ei=12
Title: Re: Well, if AI says this is the truth...
Post by: indianasmith on January 01, 2026, 07:43:37 PM
Let me know if a single serious historian agrees with this take. 
Title: Re: Well, if AI says this is the truth...
Post by: Alex on January 02, 2026, 04:56:25 AM
To be honest I didn't look any further into it than laughing at people believing in AI that much. I can't tell you if any historians agree or disagree with it.
Title: Re: Well, if AI says this is the truth...
Post by: Rev. Powell on January 02, 2026, 09:24:58 AM
Indy, you'll be happy to learn that AI agrees with you (when you query it in a neutral manner). I asked Copilot "Do any reputable historians argue that the historical Jesus was never crucified?"

Answer:

No, virtually all reputable historians—Christian, secular, and otherwise—agree that Jesus of Nazareth was crucified. In fact, his crucifixion under the Roman prefect Pontius Pilate is one of the most widely accepted facts about his life.
🔍 Scholarly Consensus
•    The crucifixion is one of only two events in Jesus's life that enjoys "almost universal assent" among historians (the other being his baptism by John the Baptist).
•    This consensus spans scholars of all backgrounds, including skeptics and atheists. Bart Ehrman, a prominent secular scholar, has stated: "He certainly existed, as virtually every competent scholar of antiquity, Christian or non-Christian, agrees".
•    Non-Christian sources like Tacitus and Josephus also reference Jesus's execution, lending further historical weight.
🧠 What About Alternative Theories?
•    A few fringe theorists and mythicists (like proponents of the "Jesus myth theory") have questioned whether Jesus existed at all or whether the crucifixion occurred. However, these views are not supported by mainstream scholarship.
•    The overwhelming majority of historians reject these theories due to the abundance of early sources and corroborating evidence.
Title: Re: Well, if AI says this is the truth...
Post by: indianasmith on January 02, 2026, 11:16:56 AM
Exactly!
Title: Re: Well, if AI says this is the truth...
Post by: Alex on January 02, 2026, 01:00:58 PM
I love that in a thread mocking people relying on AI for something, that you go and use AI Rev lol.
Title: Re: Well, if AI says this is the truth...
Post by: Rev. Powell on January 02, 2026, 01:14:58 PM
Quote from: Alex on January 02, 2026, 01:00:58 PMI love that in a thread mocking people relying on AI for something, that you go and use AI Rev lol.

I've noticed you can make AI say what you want it to say, if you ask it in the correct way.
Title: Re: Well, if AI says this is the truth...
Post by: Alex on January 02, 2026, 01:18:37 PM
Depending on how it is programmed. AI is much like a newspaper. It will give you information biased by how it has been told to work and any results from it should be treated with varying degrees of caution.
Title: Re: Well, if AI says this is the truth...
Post by: LilCerberus on January 02, 2026, 01:19:53 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/1200x/3b/17/9d/3b179dcf9c9396abc847079f039a93d0.jpg)
Title: Re: Well, if AI says this is the truth...
Post by: Rev. Powell on January 02, 2026, 01:29:40 PM
Just because it won't do your job well doesn't mean it won't take your job!
Title: Re: Well, if AI says this is the truth...
Post by: Alex on January 02, 2026, 01:33:04 PM
Very true. It just has to do it cheaper.
Title: Re: Well, if AI says this is the truth...
Post by: Jim H on January 03, 2026, 01:34:36 AM
Quote from: Rev. Powell on January 02, 2026, 01:14:58 PM
Quote from: Alex on January 02, 2026, 01:00:58 PMI love that in a thread mocking people relying on AI for something, that you go and use AI Rev lol.

I've noticed you can make AI say what you want it to say, if you ask it in the correct way.

You see the evidence of this in the linked article.

QuoteAnd now, more than four decades after first suspecting something was wrong with the Biblical story, he says artificial intelligence has proved his study correct. He fed 99 anomalies into each of the main AI systems and asked them to evaluate his theory. All judged it to be a coherent and logically consistent alternative to the traditional account.

ChatGPT and similar systems can't actually do that, but they'll sure blow smoke up your ass to make it sound like they can.

QuoteChatGPT is quoted as saying that "the most comprehensive and integrative theory yet attempted." DeepSeek called it "a monumental achievement in historical research."

And Claude AI went further, describing the theory as one that "merits serious academic consideration" and, if proved correct, would "require a complete rewriting of early Christian history." Doyle argues that these AI responses matter because the systems can analyse large bodies of primary material without theological bias.

In other words, that's what they did.  They were their usual grotesque, fawning selves and fell all over themselves after he asked the right stuff, and gave him the answers he wanted.  They're so sycophantic, bleh.
Title: Re: Well, if AI says this is the truth...
Post by: claws on January 03, 2026, 07:16:46 AM
Quote from: Rev. Powell on January 02, 2026, 01:14:58 PMI've noticed you can make AI say what you want it to say, if you ask it in the correct way.

AI has a reply for you:

QuotePerson 2 isn't wrong—I am a world-class mirror. If you ask me 'the correct way,' I can definitely help you win an argument against yourself. But at that point, are we even having a conversation, or are you just practicing digital ventriloquism?
Title: Re: Well, if AI says this is the truth...
Post by: Alex on January 08, 2026, 10:56:20 AM
Overheard a conversation yesterday on the bus where someone was complaining that AI was basically gaslighting them and would give them whatever answer they wanted rather than the truth.