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Title: What Godzilla means...
Post by: Chadzilla on July 29, 2002, 12:54:17 PM
Here is why, after nearly fifty year, a Man in a Suit still has power in Japan.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/east/07/23/japan.godzilla/index.html

Long life the King!
Title: Re: What Godzilla means...
Post by: Luke Bannon on July 30, 2002, 03:58:55 AM
Interesting article. I'd never really thought of it that way before, but now I see how Godzilla reflects the consequences of humans.
Title: Re: What Godzilla means...
Post by: Jay O'Connor on July 30, 2002, 11:14:45 AM
Just listen to the old song "Godzilla" by Blue Oyster Cult

"History shows again and again
How nature points up the folly of men
Godzilla! "

I've always thought that the message behind Godzilla was fairly obvious, the unknown consequences of man's actions. especially with regards to nuclear power
Title: Re: What Godzilla means...
Post by: Luke Bannon on July 30, 2002, 12:14:29 PM
I thought something a bit similiar, I just wasn't sure if I should voice it or not. Godzilla is a monstrosity man has created, like nuclear waste and such, that it can't get rid of. That's one reason the US version p***ed me off, as at the end they killed off Godzilla, thus ruining the whole point of it!
Title: Re: What Godzilla means...
Post by: Flangepart on July 30, 2002, 03:17:36 PM
You mean the first film? Well, if the audience sees him die, he's dead, Jim. However, if there can be one.....  G-Fan has had similar articles. The mix of imput keeps any one element from being the predominant one. The nuclear element makes me call G a "Techodragon". the factor of man's scientific endevor makeing him so powerful is realy the Frankenstein legend writ large. In short, our persuit of knowlage, coupled with our dark side, comming around to bit us in the ass,,,or in this case, the Major metropolitan area.
Title: Re: What Godzilla means...
Post by: Vermin Boy on July 30, 2002, 04:12:19 PM
You should see the original, '54 Godzilla, in its original, subtitled state; they make it crystal clear that Godzilla is a direct result of the H-bomb, and the imagery after his attack is unmistakable. A while back, for a school project, I compared the original with the American, Raymond Burr version scene-for-scene; the differences were really sort of profound.
Title: Re: What Godzilla means...
Post by: Flangepart on July 31, 2002, 05:57:30 PM
True enough. I should have clerified. The series became more like what i said, but the first film? Yeah. I've a bootleg of the "54 flick. Like it much better then the Burr version. Like all Toho better in the original form!
Title: Re: What Godzilla means...
Post by: Cullen on August 01, 2002, 03:39:05 AM
Luke Bannon wrote:

"I thought something a bit similiar, I just wasn't sure if I should voice it or not. Godzilla is a monstrosity man has created, like nuclear waste and such, that it can't get rid of. That's one reason the US version p***ed me off, as at the end they killed off Godzilla, thus ruining the whole point of it"

Actually, Godzilla has died already.  And in his first movie, too.  The big guy running through all the other movies is of a simular species.

As a rule in all giant monster movies, the monster dies.  Sequels are another matter.

Title: Re: What Godzilla means...
Post by: daniel clavette on August 01, 2002, 08:28:24 AM
Godzilla is one of the best giant monster film of all time long live the king.
Title: Re: What Godzilla means...
Post by: Jim Hepler on August 01, 2002, 10:01:06 PM
Hey, this reminds me.  When TNT used to show Godzilla films late night, they had this theme song.  Went something like "It Started With Godzilla!".  Then it had like oohing and ahing sort of sounds.  Anyone know where I can get a copy of it?
Title: Re: What Godzilla means...
Post by: Cullen on August 01, 2002, 10:51:40 PM
"When TNT used to show Godzilla films late night, they had this theme song. "

I think you're thinking of the Blue Oyster Cult classic, "Godzillla."  Shouldn't be too hard to find in one of your better CD dealers.  Don't know the exact album it first came out on, but you can find it on "best of" albums such as "Don't Fear The Reaper: The Best of Blue Öyster Cult" and "Cult Classic" (I own this one - it has two versions of the song.)

Title: Re: What Godzilla means...
Post by: Luke Bannon on August 02, 2002, 11:48:00 AM
Uh, I meant the 1998 version!Cullen wrote:
>
> Luke Bannon wrote:
>
> "I thought something a bit similiar, I just wasn't sure if I
> should voice it or not. Godzilla is a monstrosity man has
> created, like nuclear waste and such, that it can't get rid
> of. That's one reason the US version p***ed me off, as at the
> end they killed off Godzilla, thus ruining the whole point of
> it"
>
> Actually, Godzilla has died already.  And in his first movie,
> too.  The big guy running through all the other movies is of
> a simular species.
>
> As a rule in all giant monster movies, the monster dies.
> Sequels are another matter.
>
>
Title: Re: What Godzilla means...
Post by: Luke Bannon on August 02, 2002, 11:49:07 AM
I meant the 1998 one by the Independance day dudes

Cullen wrote:
>

>
> "I thought something a bit similiar, I just wasn't sure if I
> should voice it or not. Godzilla is a monstrosity man has
> created, like nuclear waste and such, that it can't get rid
> of. That's one reason the US version p***ed me off, as at the
> end they killed off Godzilla, thus ruining the whole point of
> it"
>
> Actually, Godzilla has died already.  And in his first movie,
> too.  The big guy running through all the other movies is of
> a simular species.
>
> As a rule in all giant monster movies, the monster dies.
> Sequels are another matter.
>
>
Title: Re: What Godzilla means...
Post by: Flangepart on August 02, 2002, 02:20:51 PM
No kaiju fan worth his Bandi figures has no copy of that song. I first heard it on the TNT "Godzilla bash 94" promo. Mixed with cuts from the films. Have it on one of my crusing tapes, in fact.