The Fellowship of the ring.
STARS? : Ian Holm, Elijah woods, Viggo Mortensen, ect. Yeah, that one.
PLOT? : Diverse group of adventurers seeks firey mountain, wants to melt ring of power, P.O. Evil overlord, restore status quo.
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STUFF TO WATCH FOR! :::
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Oooooh. New Zealand...pretty!
Actualy, i'd like to live in a place like Bag end. Its neat.
Do not let Hobbits near fireworks.
Good thing the Shire has a smokeing section.
Aaahhh! Thanks for the cardiac arrest, Gandelf!
Samwise, your SO boned. Take plenty of Rope!
Saruman: Mr Lee, you da man! Work dat evil mojo!
Use the force, Gandelf!...ooh. Could have used a light saber...
Mankey Scotts hobbits!
Black Riders can't cross water? But later on in the movie....
Blackriders...never...knock!
Strider : He puts the G in Grim.
Black riders shreak like asmatic wovlerines when cheesed.
Meanwhile, back atop Orthanc...Moth cam!
Orc+Goblin= Urukai= a Klingon with less vocabulary then worf.
Well, Glorfindel...she's cuter then you. Sorry you diden't make the cut.
Eagle Airlines. When you absolutly, positivly have to escape overnight.
Hey..Boromier...don't diss another mans blade, okey?
Boromier always did have a testosterone overload.
Frodo, you are SO boned. Ask Sam to bring extra rope, btw.
Well, theres the name of your group...now haul ass for Middle Earth!
Next time: Bring more clothing!
Woah! Lake monster...big Yog...Bad Yog!
Wow! Now thats CQB in that tomb!
What? He gets nailed with a spear THAT big, with THAT much monster mass behind it?...and he's still breathing? Mitheril coat, or no, i disbelieve!
Orcroaches!
Arrow cam.
"Fly, you fools...cause i can't!"
A weepy Boromier...sheesh.
Chill, Galadriell...man, these elvish mood swings....
Sing, "Row,row,row yer boat", and you sleep with the fishes.
Two words, Boromier..."Obssesive impulsive".
Urukai: Harder to kill then cockroaches.
Sam...swim towards the light!
So, Sam...got rope?
and , finaly(Yea).......New Zealand...pretty!
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Flangepart says: Check it...ah, your way ahead of me.
Neat dvd set. Great job useing limeted cgi to expand the look of Tolkien's world. Makes his images of Orthanc, Rivendell, The Shire, and all else look soooo right.
....Good acting. Ian Holm is great as Bilbo, and Viggo does , indeed, kick orc.
....Still, i did have problims, because of reading the book. I knew what was missing, and while the film did well on the sense of place and time, there was so much carracter time missing. Ah well. Hummm...mini series, maby?
....Still, i'm looking forward now to the rest of the flicks. You?
....Back to you, Andrew!
I liked THE LORD OF THE RINGS very much due Jackson sticking with some of Tolkien's story rather than changing it for, as most producers would say, "For the better" (granted, I have not read Tolkien's books but from what I heard Jackson changed very little).
But now, after this film and HEAVENLY CREATURES has placed Jackson in the mainstream I think it's time for PJ to return to what got him in the film industry in the firstplace (i.e. horror comedies a la his BRAINDEAD and BAD TASTE). And after the success of the first LORD OF THE RINGS film, I have a feeling that the other two will pull nicely.
But now, PJ needs to get back in the splatter era. I have heard that Jackson would like to make a zombie film taking place in, of all era's, World War 1! Just hope he goes through with it and makes it a comedy with small serious overtones.
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Agreed. In an overzealous producer's hands at least one ofthe Fellowship would be gay, the black riders would be a less "racist" color and Arwen would give up mortality to be with Aragorn as long as it was "A commited relationship that constitutes an equal partnership with both parties respecting the others' individual rights and space, and I am not refered to as a 'Queen' because it assigns gender roles and suggests that I am subserviant, not a strong-willed individual. And I will be entitled to half of everything you own should the union be separated, as per divorce laws in the district of Gondor", or something like that.
I liked how the Ringwraiths resembled the Blind Dead.
My choice would be for Jackson to make another HEAVENLY CREATURES type film.
I watched this the other night and while I didn't think it was a bad film in any way, I didn't see what the big deal about it was. Maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention, but a few parts had me scratching my head. Liv Tyler takes Frodo to her village to be healed, leaving the others behind, but the next thing you know, he's waking up and all his friends are there, including Gandalf who is still being held prisoner on top of the giant pillar. Huh? I spent a good portion of the rest of the film wondering when the real Gandalf would show up and expose the imposter. There were others, but it's all kind of a blur now.
"Maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention, but a few parts had me scratching my head. Liv Tyler takes Frodo to her village to be healed, leaving the others behind, but the next thing you know, he's waking up and all his friends are there, including Gandalf who is still being held prisoner on top of the giant pillar."
Gandalf on a pillar - That was a flashback. (You knew that by know, right? Just forgive me for being a bit of an a**)
Friends are there when he wakes - Someone came to pick them up. They walked there while Frodo was still in delirium. That sort of thing.
What would have helped Lord of the Rings is if they had put up dates. You know, such as "March 7, 1078 of the Third Age" when the part was held, then "May 20, 1078" when they reached Bree. That sort of thing. It would have given the passage of time a little better.
I had the same problem with The Fugitive . I like both movies ( Lord more than Fugitive ) but they do have their faults.
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>That was a flashback. (You knew that by know, right? Just forgive me for being a
>bit of an a**)
Nope, I didn't know that. I started out paying attention, but as the movie went on, it sort of waned. I should also note that I'm not the biggest fan of fantasy movies.
John writes:
"Nope, I didn't know that. I started out paying attention, but as the movie went on, it sort of waned. I should also note that I'm not the biggest fan of fantasy movies."
No reason why you should be (except that they're the best, man, the best!). I loved that movie from the start and could watch it again and again (and will, once the Special Edition comes out.)
I really enjoyed the film on the theatre. It looked very respectful towards Tolkien's work, and character development was pretty good, which is something extremely rare on blockbusters. Really looking forward for the next movies.
BTW, How many people watched the film without bothering to read the novels? I had great fun checking the faces of the people, who kept on rambling about the damn cliffhanger. Hell, that's exactly how the book ends.
I read the novels before hand, partially because I'm a fantasy fame, and partially because of the first Lord of the Rings .
I also heard people complaining about how "nothing got resolved." Didn't these people see the comercials announcing the fact that these films are a trilogy?
Making the films back to back to back was a smart move. The second one'd never be made otherwise...
(Well, judging by the movies sucess, maybe that's not true...)
I reread the books (starting with the Silmarillion) for the movie. Actually I'm going to wait on the Two Towers until just before the movie comes out, same as with the third one. Jackson does change some things, and cuts other things out, but he had too, otherwise the movies would be ten hours long, each. While certain events were different, he did keep true to the flavor of the story.
Figured i'd get some thoughts with this one.
....I love the visuals. The swooping camera realy works here, as it gives you a feel for the size of the places involved.
....The sweep over the landscape is beauty, eh? As we've never seen these places before, it strikes home more. When they passed by the two huge statues, i felt like i was realy there. The lighting and angle of the images was spot on.
....The characters. It was the sence of who they were, and why they would try to stop Sauron, that the visuals enhanced. Thay had too much to lose. I realy would like a house like Bag End! Rounded styles are more comforting then severe right angles. More relaxed and actualy stronger of structure.
....Gandelf's affection for the Hobbits come across nicely. Unlike Saruman, he feels no need to dominate and crush all others. All evil is an expression of selfishness, only the methods change.
....Am i the only one who thought the Hobbits cloths, espchualy Merry and Pippen , made them look like they were trying out for the next Dr. Who? Must be thinking of Patrick Troughton.
....It seemed rushed to me, but haveing read the books, i did miss the details they had to leave out. Ah well. Still in all, a class act.
I loved how Jackson got the feel of the characters perfectly, and the actors all turned in good performances. The Oscar goes to Opie my ass. Ian Mckellan was especially great. He nailed Gandalf's affection and fatherly feelings toward the Hobbits and Aragorn, and also his foreboding presence when it came time to be serious. The Hobbit actors did s fine job realizing the wonder and fear the halflings experience, Sean Bean was spot-on as Boromir and Aragorn was a grade-A badass, aspecially when chopping up that Uruk-Hai. I hope Jackson left in the friendship that grows between Gimli and Legolas in the next two installments.
>Am i the only one who thought the Hobbits cloths, espchualy Merry and Pippen , >made them look like they were trying out for the next Dr. Who? Must be thinking of >Patrick Troughton
Thats who they reminded me of. Thank you, it has been bugging me.
Also I have heard them described as "the two interchangable hobbits" anyone else just not care who was who?
Flagenpart writes:
"Am i the only one who thought the Hobbits cloths, espchualy Merry and Pippen , made them look like they were trying out for the next Dr. Who? Must be thinking of Patrick Troughton."
Through out the early sections of the movie, I kept looking at Ian Holm's thinking he was a dead wringer for Sylvester Mccoy, the Seventh Doctor. I'm glad I'm not the only one who had Doctor Who flash.
I've never read the books. Another thing; why wouldn't Gandalf touch the ring? Others did with no ill effects, so why wouldn't he touch it?
For some reason hobbits are fairly resistant to the ring's evil powers. It seems that the more ambitious you are, the more the ring affects you. Hence Boromir was influenced by it even at a distance.
Another thing that few people know is that Gandalf is not human. He is from Valinor and a being more like the Valar or, perhaps, the elves. Their true name (the wizards) is the Istari. If you have ever played Starcraft, one of the Protos says something that sounds like "Istari" when you click on them. I always thought that was neat.
Oh, well, I just read the books again a few months ago, so I may or may not have some helpful comments --
Gandalf would not touch the ring because of his non-human nature. As will be revealed in the films to come, Gandalf is more odd even than the Elves. Were he to touch the ring, it would conceivably infect him with irresistable temptation to possess it & then -- as he very well knows -- it would eventually possess him.
I heartily recommend to everyone to read the books themselves. Tolkien was a linguist, a historian, a philologist, and the premiere translator of the Icelandic Sagas into the English language. All the books of the series are very much based upon the Icelandic Sagas.
The form of the stories is that of a single moment in thousands of years of history to be and history performed. Tolkien's true master-stroke was to create an entire artificial scholastic history of the texts & their perspective/place in space & time. It is very worth digesting the appendices at the end of "The Return of The King".
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that the individual Hobbits will become very very distinct individuals as the films progress, as Jackson is staying quite faithful to the text & the destinies of Frodo, Samwise(Sam), Peregin(Pippin), and Meriadoc(Merry) are quite distinct. They will be separated in the films to come, & at that point may have a chance to shine forth in their own right a bit more.
Chirstopher Lee (Sauruman) says in his autobiography (Tall, Dark, & Gruesome -- Midnight Marquee Press) -- published many years before the film was even a gleam in Jackson's eyes -- that one of his rituals is to read the whole Tolkien canon in its entirety every year. How very very very perfect for him to be in this, though he originally saw himself as Gandalf, he is extremely happy with Ian McClellan's (Not Ian Holm -- also a very great actor, but not playing Gandalf here)performance.
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I felt that was the message of LOTR: Keep it simple. Sauron and Saruman are evil because they want nothing more than to possess absolute power. The Humans are ambiguous because they lead somewhat simple lives yet desire power. The Hobbits and Elves lead simple lives and do not want power, so they are the knoblest and purest of the races.
A thought: I hope Peter Jackson continues to keep the thinly-veiled pot references in. Nothing calms a Hobbit down like a good puff of pipe-weed.