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Title: Superman Lives!
Post by: josh patrick on September 19, 2002, 07:43:21 PM
I bet some of you are wondering why im still posting. well i could not find any where else to denounce and praise bad movies so im staying wether you like it or not. i understand i came on a little strong with the evil dead thing but hey thats who i am. dont say i need therapy. Anyway the next superman movie is going to suck. i have heard nothing but bad things cage, fraiser, reeves, keanu reeves that is. all these idiots are in the running to play supes, i like the superman movies but 3 and 4 kinda blew. i hope they try with this movie.
Title: Re: Superman Lives!
Post by: J.R. on September 19, 2002, 08:32:42 PM
Brett Ratner is directing Supe 5 after he finishes Red Dragon. Uh, this is the guy that directed Rush Hour 1 and 2, why was he given the reigns of Hannibal Lecter and Superman?
Title: Re: Superman Lives!
Post by: Dano on September 19, 2002, 08:39:13 PM
Glad you stuck around, Josh.  Nicholas Cage is a terrible choice for Superman.  It would be as insane as casting, say, Mr. Mom as Batman. :)
Title: Re: Superman Lives!
Post by: josh patrick on September 19, 2002, 09:59:40 PM
It would also be just as crazy as ben affleck as daredevil and michal clack duncan as the kingpin. i mean hes black! the kingpin was not black, im not a racist or anything but come on, michal clack duncan. you know it would have been the s**t storm of the decade if the kingpin was black and they cast a white guy. black people have b***hed for so long that now they can get away with anything because people are afraid of looking racist.
Title: Re: Superman Lives!
Post by: XxSilverHxX on September 19, 2002, 10:03:57 PM
I agree with you 100% Josh,  A black King Pin WTF are they thinking that alone might just spoil the movie for me!!!!  p**ses me off, Duncan is cool but give him a character that is his own race, think about it, if Blade was white, like Tom Cruise or somethin it wouldn't be the same..BLADE IS AWESOME!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Superman Lives!
Post by: Dano on September 19, 2002, 10:04:16 PM
Well, Michael Clark Duncan is a very good actor and he does have that huge-bald-guy thing going.  I think he could pull off Kingpin pretty well.  I don't think his race will matter.  Probably the Tony Soprano guy would have come to mind first if I were casting, but he's probably busy with the Sopranos.
Title: Re: Superman Lives!
Post by: J.R. on September 20, 2002, 12:32:28 AM
If James Gandolfini were the Kingpin Daredevil would get a hard R.

Our hero Daredevil finally makes it to Wilson Fisk's (a.k.a. The Kingpin) stronghold, a strip club filled with bodies mutilated by meat grinders-

Daredevil: "I've got you now, Fisk!"

Kingpin:  "What the f**k, you f**kin' f**k! F**k your f**kin' mother with that f**kin' s**t!".

Daredevil: "Your reign is over, you fiend!"

Kingpin: " Motherf**ker, you callin' me a f**kin' fiend, you f**kin' stupid f**ker!"

I don't like that show, BTW.
Title: Re: Brett Ratner, et al
Post by: Chadzilla on September 20, 2002, 12:31:45 PM
Because he seems to be a moderately talented filmmaker with a gift of not having the actors getting overwhelmed with the bombast of the action.  I'm not comfortable with pigeonholing directors/writers/actors into small, isolated areas of work or interest (so and so should stick with such and such).  What little I have seen of Red Dragon (via commercials and articles) looks very promising, true to the novel's spirit and moody as heck - how successful the movie is remains to be seen.  Look at Richard Donner, he made The Omen, then went on to make Superman-The Movie, The Goonies, and the Lethal Weapon series, each movie was quite popular yet very different in tone and/or genre - imagine if he were forced to just make a certain kind of movie and nothing else.

Of course you could counter my argument with someone like Walter Hill, who makes great action movies but when he steps out of that field you get stuff like Brewster's Millions or Supernova.

As far as the man in the cape, Ratner told Cinescape he would prefer to go with an unknown.

Title: JR
Post by: Dano on September 20, 2002, 04:59:26 PM
Funny.

I don't like the show either, it's a goddam soap opera.  I was also long ago bored by the glamorization of thugs and rug pushers.  Goodfellas did it well, and it got old fast after that.

Still, that guy's a pretty good heavy-set actor who I think could play Kingpin.
Title: Re: Superman Lives!
Post by: John on September 21, 2002, 07:57:39 PM
>As far as the man in the cape, Ratner told Cinescape he would prefer to go with
>an unknown.

 Gee, you mean this is one movie Tom Cruise isn't rumored to be up for?