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Title: EVIL
Post by: Deadance on December 01, 2002, 07:58:34 PM
Here are  my list of evil.
Part 1.... Just plan old evil but I try to be nice .............NOT
1. Jason (without a doubt)
2. Michael Myers

Part 2 ...evil with a attuide
1. Majin Boo from dragon ball z
2. Angenla from sleepaway camp
3. Evil  dead demons
4. Zombie (they really want to eat you up)
5. Pikachu ( o.k. just kidding)

Part 3 ...evil that give you a chance to live if you survive
1.Pinhead
2.The wishmaster demon
3. Your boss(also know as a***ole prick)
4. Bolo yeug (the kung fu star but  play a good guy in shoot fighter 1&2)
5. Michiko Nishiwaki ( another kung fu star never recall a good person role from her.)
6. Co-workers
7. Sub-zero from mortal kombat video games

Part 4..... Sometime evil or Sometime good
1. Stone cold steve austin
2 The undertaker
3. Donnie Yen ( Plays both good and evil roles)
4. Richard Norton ( same as above)
5. Marylin Manson

Part 5.......real life evil
1. Osmae bin ladden .....I hate this a***ole I'm from new york this guy really f**k up this tri state area excuse my language.  I hope they find this jerk and give him the punishment that he deserve.
2. I won't continue on this chapter because I think there are a whole list to be fill out on this one.
Title: Re: EVIL
Post by: J.R. on December 01, 2002, 08:47:21 PM
Zombies are not evil. They only follow their instincts like a wild animal.

As for real life evil I would add Pol Pot, Paul W.S. Anderson, Charles Manson, Ben Affleck and Aril Lavigne. They are all equally evil.

Title: Re: EVIL
Post by: wuggles451 on December 01, 2002, 09:56:18 PM
aaahhh Avril Lavigne... or as i call her Jennifer Aniston with Down's Syndrome... some body could you please explain to me what the appeal is?

Title: Re: EVIL
Post by: wheresthecarrot on December 02, 2002, 01:45:27 AM
"You're all damn lucky they've decided never to give me parole, because if I was set free, to kill again, there'd be none of you left"  

Charles Manson said that to Oprah, of all people.  Hes a pretty scary guy.

Title: What!!??
Post by: Ash on December 02, 2002, 03:36:25 AM
Avril Levigne is a hottie!

Her music isn't bad either.

Oh well.

I guess beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder.

Title: Re: What!!??
Post by: J.R. on December 02, 2002, 04:44:43 AM
Well, Avril is Canadian, major points off for me, she literally looks mentally retarded, she wears Hot Topic swag to try to look "punk" and her music is just as prefabricated and manufactured as she is vehement in her denial that it is not.

Title: Re: EVIL
Post by: AndyC on December 02, 2002, 03:04:47 PM
Maybe he was talking about talk show hosts. We can only hope.

Seriously though, I think Manson likes the attention, and tries to put on a good show for interviewers and the audience at home. At this point, he knows he's never getting out and he probably doesn't want out, so what can he lose? I suppose the fact that he gets off on having a reputation as an evil, raving lunatic just proves what a sick individual he is.

Title: Re: EEEEE-vil Charlie
Post by: Chadzilla on December 02, 2002, 07:42:41 PM
Charlie Manson has been up for parole countless times, but puts on a show everytime to blow it.  Dude doesn't want out, he's a parasite living off the dole and why leave it to get a job to pay for what he's getting for free?  Crazy like a fox, he is.

Title: Re: EVIL
Post by: wuggles451 on December 03, 2002, 01:14:07 AM
i dont think id mind if ol' Charlie offed us all as long as he took Avril first... i hate skank

Title: Re: EVIL
Post by: Funk, E. on December 03, 2002, 10:30:16 PM
Let's not forget about Edie Amine (sp?), Richard Nixon, Adolph Hitler, George Bush Sr. (was that the outside voice?), Surhan Surhan, That Chillian Dictator Prick (that we put there), Bill Gates (there can be only one), Anyone who's an attorney or in advertising...
Title: Re: EVIL
Post by: J.R. on December 03, 2002, 11:22:19 PM
Despite political beliefs I think it's abhorent to put George Bush on par with Hitler.

Title: Re: EVIL
Post by: Funk, E. on December 03, 2002, 11:29:05 PM
I don't.

Have you looked at the activities of the CIA when he was it's director? Iran/Contra? War on Iraq for oil part 1? Throwing the election? That mother f**ker has deliberately orcastrated more travesties than most people know about.

Worst of all what were his motivations? Some lofty ideal about a superior race? The revival of their beloved homeland to its former glory? No. The further advancement of personal fortune and a good old boys network.

He's evil to the core.
Title: Re: EVIL
Post by: Fearless Freep on December 03, 2002, 11:32:01 PM
Despite political beliefs I think it's abhorent to put George Bush on par with Hitler.

I was thinking the same thing.  Mixing pop entertainers and elected officials with seriel killers and genocidal mass murderers is pretty tacky

Title: Re: EVIL
Post by: Funk, E. on December 03, 2002, 11:42:24 PM
I didn't mention any pop idols... or serial killers
Title: Re: EVIL
Post by: Fearless Freep on December 03, 2002, 11:47:11 PM
I didn't mention any pop idols... or serial killers

Not you particularly, but both have been mentioned in this conversation.

You did, however, mention anyone who's an attorney's or in advertsing, which is pretty much the same level of silliness.  Sorry but the guy who thought a chihuahua  could sell chalupas is not in the same league.

Title: Re: EVIL
Post by: Funk, E. on December 03, 2002, 11:50:25 PM
There were also alot of humorous side notes too... okay, you didn't think it was funny. Fine. My bad, I apologize
Title: Re: EVIL
Post by: Funk, E. on December 04, 2002, 12:13:58 AM
It's funny everyone's all prickly about Greogie boy and not my Nixon slight... I guess my only crime is not waiting till he's dead to make fun of him...
Title: Re: EVIL
Post by: J.R. on December 04, 2002, 01:52:52 AM
Well, Nixon is reviled so much that it's accepted. And I don't think that Bush, among his percieved crimes, is responsible for as many deaths as the Vietnam war.

If you're going after Bush be fair and include Clinton. His unbelievably corrupt record in Arkansas, Waco, Juanita Broderick, and the half-assed excursions into Somalia and Bosnia. The events depicted in Black Hawk Down were the biggest firefight involving American soldiers since Vietnam, an open act of war, the troops were pulled out two weeks later, and guess what? People are still starving over there. I guess that's what happens when the Commander In Chief never served in the military.

Title: Re: EVIL
Post by: Fearless Freep on December 04, 2002, 10:08:45 AM
There were also alot of humorous side notes too... okay, you didn't think it was funny. Fine. My bad, I apologize

OK, I may have overreacted.  My apology as well.

Title: Re: EVIL
Post by: wheresthecarrot on December 04, 2002, 03:30:44 PM
See, I don't think clinton was evil, just dumb.....Bush.....selfish and greedy.....he went after money, which many people say is the root of all evil.....yeah, clinton did corrupt things, like watergate for personal gain, but he also didnt do things like open up a bunch of protected land for oil drilling.....i dont think he's evil really, just stupid and pathetic, but in a way that seems much more threatening than clinton's idiocy

On a side not, if we're going to get into botched military operations, then i guess JFK who everyone thinks was a cool guy, is evil too.

I know its just for fun, but evil's a strong word....i think we need to really think about who we attatch it to, aside from humorous side notes everyone knows are silly, but if its what you really believe then that's cool

Title: Re: Yeah
Post by: Chadzilla on December 04, 2002, 04:10:31 PM
wheresthecarrot wrote:
>
> I know its just for fun, but evil's a strong word....i think
> we need to really think about who we attatch it to, aside
> from humorous side notes everyone knows are silly, but if its
> what you really believe then that's cool
>

What he said.
Couldn't have said it better myself.

In the prestigious intellectual publication that is the Sunday Parade section of your newspaper, crime writer/childrens rights attorney Andrew Vachss addressed True Evil as opposed to just dubbing immoral or greedy (or something you just don't agree with) behavior as Evil.  The proof in the pudding in his argument is that truly evil people destroy or hurt and maim not to further a cause or too strengthen their power base, they do so simply because it is what they enjoy doing and THAT is evil.  Example - a mother rents her child out to pornographers - a pretty vile act - but does she do it to make money to survive or does she do it because she LIKES subjecting her child to that torture.  The if it is yes to the former, she is not evil, simply immoral, if the answer is the second, then yes, she is evil.

That being said, let me enflame many by saying that I don't think of either OBL or Saddam as being Truly Evil, just dangerous and immoral.

Title: Re: EVIL
Post by: Fearless Freep on December 04, 2002, 04:59:01 PM
For what it's worth, I don't really believe in Evil.   I think Evil is just something invented to call "something I think is really, really, wrong", but in a way that bypasses personalities.  This is a religious perspective, but I think 'evil' allows you to classify something as wrong without involving God or Satan or any other religious accountabilities.  "Evil" is kinda like "Satan without a face" because if you can say something is evil in it's own right, without it being in relationship to a moral authority that defines right and wrong, then you don't really have to face the personal responsibilities that it would entail.

Evil is "Sin" with the ultimate object, and to lesser degree, the origin, of sin removed. Sin entails a moral authority and as soon as you invoke that, it comes back to bite you.  So you can say "evil" and it's safe because there needn't be a personality behind it

But it's hard to talk abuot Evil without getting metaphysical
Title: Re: Nah
Post by: Dano on December 04, 2002, 05:42:37 PM
Chadzilla:  The proof in the pudding in his argument is that truly evil people destroy or hurt and maim not to further a cause or too strengthen their power base, they do so simply because it is what they enjoy doing and THAT is evil.
*****  Nope, I don't buy that.  Stalin didn't murder millions and millions of people because he just liked it.  He did it to neutralize his enemies, intimidate potential enemies, and manipulate the size of his population so his bizarre economic ideas would work.  That doesn't make him not evil.  Mao caused the most deadly famine in human history (30+ million; starving people actually defoliated hundreds of square miles of China by eating grass and trees) to make his own twisted economic ideas work.  There were reasons behind it and it was evil.

Even Hitler's strange motives to waste manpower, resources, and transportation assets (not to mention alienating potential allies like Ukraine) with his Final Solution and mass murder of civilians in the USSR can be twisted into some logical "reasons" if you look at it from merely the standpoint of "furthering a cause."

Evil is no doubt an overused word thrown around a lot in polemics and also jokingly, but to say that evil only exists for evil's own sake is to cast too narrow a definition, I think.

Title: Re: EVIL
Post by: Funk, E. on December 04, 2002, 11:20:26 PM
Wow! bad humor turns into philosophical debate... film at 11 ;-)
Title: Re: Yeah
Post by: wheresthecarrot on December 05, 2002, 12:59:22 AM
>
> What he said.
> Couldn't have said it better myself.

It's not really important....but "he" is actually a "she"

; )

Title: Re: EVIL
Post by: AndyC on December 05, 2002, 06:39:25 AM
Funk, E. wrote:
>
> Wow! bad humor turns into philosophical debate... film at 11
> ;-)

It's beginning to happen with almost disturbing regularity.

Title: Re: EVIL
Post by: Funk, E. on December 05, 2002, 04:43:11 PM
Well that starts a whole new debate. Why do bright people like dumb movies? ;-)

Do want to thank everyone especially Fearless and J.R. for keeping a level head. I admire and appreciate a heated debate that doesn't turn into immature name calling.  It's nice to be on a message board were everything doesn't turn into a flame war. I do appreciate and respect that.