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Title: My Newest List of Films (12/14/02)
Post by: Scott on December 14, 2002, 08:26:13 PM
Trying to dig up some films to rent. Its not a Christmas list, but I have to have something in the on deck circle.

Citizen Kane
Austin Powers: Goldmember
Jason Lives
Jason Goes to Hell
Quills
The Vikings (I seen some of this back in the 70's)
Tombstone
Gator Bait
Caged Fury
Caged Heat
Foriegn films (that I can't remeber the name of at this time)

Movie that I have been thinking of purchasing:

Zombie Holocast
Garden of the Dead
Coffin Joe Trilogy
Vampire (something from Retromedia) from the Philippines
Invasion U.S.A (from the 50's)


Movie that I have seen, but thought about buying:

Zombie
Motel Hell
Title: Re: My Newest List of Films (12/14/02)
Post by: lester1/2jr on December 15, 2002, 02:13:05 PM
I've almost rented gaotr bait like a billion times.  Women in prison movies are dope.  My favorite is Bamboo house of Dolls (Shaw Bros) because it's so brutal.
Title: Whatever you do Scott...
Post by: Chris K. on December 15, 2002, 02:28:05 PM
> Vampire (something from Retromedia) from the Philippines

That 'vampire from the Philippines' is really CURSE OF THE VAMPIRES. But please, don't get that poor Retromedia release as it claims to be 'letterboxed' (but it isn't) and is taken from a really bad 35mm print.

If you want to see CURSE OF THE VAMPIRES, I urge you to purchase the release from Image Enterainment under the re-issue title BLOOD OF THE VAMPIRES. Authorized from the original 35mm negative, it's better than Retromedia's release!
Title: Re: Whatever you do Scott...
Post by: Scott on December 15, 2002, 07:40:28 PM
Thanks Chris K. for the advice. Is the film any good?
Title: It's worth watching...
Post by: Chris K. on December 15, 2002, 07:59:32 PM
But in order to understand CURSE OF THE VAMPIRES, you would also have to take a look at THE BLOOD DRINKERS (also availble from Image). Not that CURSE OF THE VAMPIRES is a sequel, but they do tie in together at some point.

But, CURSE OF THE VAMPIRES is worth checking out. It has some great touches and for a low budget Philippine vampire flick it is technically sound. Plus, you get a great commentary track from Sam Sherman. He tells some behind-the-scenes stories about the American distribution company Hemisphere Pictures (responsible for releasing THE BLOOD DRINKERS and CURSE OF THE VAMPIRES) that he worked for. So, if you are disappointed with the film the commentary track is the saving grace of the package.
Title: Re: It's worth watching...
Post by: Scott on December 15, 2002, 08:02:04 PM
Is  THE BLOOD DRINKERS  made in the Philippines also?
Title: Re: It's worth watching...
Post by: Chris K. on December 15, 2002, 08:05:49 PM
THE BLOOD DRINKERS was indeed made in the Philippines (and distributed by Hemisphere as well, so Sam Sherman provides commentary). I remember seeing THE BLOOD DRINKERS on a poor video from 16mm, but the recent DVD release is taken from a new 35mm negative and looks better than I last saw it.

I might add that both THE BLOOD DRINKERS and CURSE OF THE VAMPIRES were directed by Geraldo de Leon, responsible for BRIDES OF BLOOD and MAD DOCTOR OF BLOOD ISLAND. Even so, THE BLOOD DRINKERS remains de Leon's best while CURSE OF THE VAMPIRES falls in second.
Title: Re: It's worth watching...
Post by: Scott on December 15, 2002, 09:02:49 PM
Wow, you know your movies. My wife is from the Philippines and I have been wanting to buy CURSE OF THE VAMPIRES, but i'll have to wait till I find an IMAGE copy.

I love foriegn horror/sci-fi films. Hopefully I'll also get to see THE COFFIN JOE TRILOGY someday. Also the other Geraldo de Leon films you spoke of. One more on my list are all the Paul Naschy films.
Title: Say Scott...
Post by: Chris K. on December 15, 2002, 10:02:59 PM
You said your wife is from the Philippines. The original title Philippine title of THE BLOOD DRINKERS is KULAY DUGO ANG GABI. Can she translate that title. I have been trying to get it translated into English, but I had very little success.
Title: Re: Say Scott...
Post by: Scott on December 16, 2002, 07:35:56 PM
I'll ask her later tonight and should have the answer for you as soon as I get back online.
Title: Re: Say Scott...
Post by: Chris K. on December 16, 2002, 08:14:09 PM
Okay. I'll be back online later to see what the good word is.
Title: Re: Say Scott...
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on December 17, 2002, 05:01:14 PM
I'll plug "Tombstone." A little bit of a western joke there. A heck of a cast. Plus it's certainly better then the version with Kevin Costner. My favorite scene from the film.Doc Holiday's (Val Kilmer's) tin coffee cup twirling exhibition.
"Vikings." Not to give away my age or anything, but, I saw this in its original theatrical release. Still rates in my mind, as one of the most violent films ever made. Surprising, what you could get away with in the '50's. Worth seeing, though.
"Citizen Kane" If one hasn't seen it, then see it. Probably the greatest American film ever made. A cast of relative unknowns. Most of whom went on to become famous. Watch for Alan Ladd as a reporter. Enjoy all three films.
Title: Re: My Newest List of Films (12/14/02)
Post by: Gerry on December 17, 2002, 05:06:53 PM
Scott wrote:
>
> Gator Bait

This one is mind-numbingly bad.  You have been warned.
Title: Re: My Newest List of Films (12/14/02)
Post by: Scott on December 17, 2002, 08:33:20 PM
Thanks for the warning on Gator Bait. Gerry I guess Gator Bait II is out of the question.

Kevin I just watched CITIZEN KANE and the beggining was very good and seen some of the films influence on Wood Allen. I shouldn't have forced the movie as I was not ready to sit down to a film today, but I 'm glad I was able to see Citizen Kane all the way through. It dos appear to be true that Orson Welles was getting his story from the Hearst Castle and some of Hearst personaly life. It seemed quite clear. With CITIZEN KANE and the WAR OF THE WORLDS broadcast it appears that Welles was using anything that would provoke sensationalism amidst influencial people and the common man to break into the business. One of my favorite Orson Welles films is THE STRANGER and of coarseTHE THIRD MAN. Last year I sold my VHS copy of an Italian film starring Orson Welles playing Napoleon.

Chris K. I have the translation for you for CURSE OF THE VAMPIRE. The tagalog title of KULAY DUGO ANG GABI is translated BLOOD IS THE COLOR OF THE NIGHT, or something to that effect. I talked to my wife, brother In-law, and another Filipino and they all said something alittle different, but BLOOD IS THE COLOR OF THE NIGHT is the basic idea. I'll get a word for word break down later, since there is such a odd difference. Someone else told me it was THE COLOR OF RED, and  I was driving in the car with my wife when I asked her so I can't remember exactly what she said, but it's at least closer to the BLOOD IS THE COLOR OF RED that her brother gave me.
Title: Re: My Newest List of Films (12/14/02)
Post by: Scott on December 17, 2002, 09:03:59 PM
Chris K. the word by word break down is like this:

KULAY = COLOR
DUGO = BLOOD
ANG = THE (its a preposition like:  of, at, in, from, etc.)
GABI = NIGHT

COLOR BLOOD THE NIGHT isn't it though. My brother-In law puts it THE COLOR OF THE NIGHT IS BLOOD being alittle closer than BLOOD IS THE COLOR OF THE NIGHT.

Thats as close as I can get Chris. It was a fun grammer lesson for me.
Title: Re: My Newest List of Films (12/14/02)
Post by: Scott on December 17, 2002, 09:43:55 PM
Adding these film to my rental list:

Astronauts Wife
The Dead Hate the Living
First Power
The Hidden
Title: That's fine, Scott
Post by: Chris K. on December 17, 2002, 10:46:21 PM
As long as I have a clue to what the title KULAY DUGO ANG GABI is close to mean in English translation, you broke it down easily for me.

A thousand thanks to you,  your wife, and your brother-in law for the helpful translation. Now, go out and view THE BLOOD DRINKERS as soon as you can. It's worth the viewing experience.
Title: Re: My Newest List of Films (12/14/02)
Post by: Gerry on December 18, 2002, 01:01:51 PM
Scott wrote:
>
> It seemed quite clear. With CITIZEN
> KANE and the WAR OF THE WORLDS broadcast it appears that
> Welles was using anything that would provoke sensationalism
> amidst influencial people and the common man to break into
> the business.

In defense of Welles, he had no idea what sort of reaction the War of the Worlds broadcast would elicit.  He was as shocked as everyone else.  Check out The Panic Broadcast by Howard Koch (who also wrote the radio play for War of the Worlds) for an interesting chronicle of the broadcast.
Title: Re: My Newest List of Films (12/14/02)
Post by: JohnL on December 19, 2002, 02:07:00 AM
>In defense of Welles, he had no idea what sort of reaction the War of the Worlds
>broadcast would elicit. He was as shocked as everyone else. Check out The
>Panic Broadcast by Howard Koch (who also wrote the radio play for War of the
>Worlds) for an interesting chronicle of the broadcast.
 
And check out The Night that Panicked America for a dramatization of that event. I got a kick out of the guy shooting the water tower.
Title: Re: My Newest List of Films (12/14/02)
Post by: Scott on December 21, 2002, 11:48:07 AM
For as much as Welles appeared surprised I think that he was hoping for something interesting to happen.
Title: Re: My Newest List of Films (12/14/02)
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on December 22, 2002, 04:41:45 PM
Amen, brother! To Scott's last comment. And he was good in both "The Stranger" and "The Third Man." Both of which I have seen. And here are some of my other favorite appearances of Orson Welles.
As the crooked cop in "Touch of Evil." Probably his greatest film next to "Citizen Kane."
As the narrator in "Start the Revolution without Me."
As Father Mapple in "Moby Dick." Great director meets great director. John Huston and Orson Welles shot Welles' scene in one just one take. Almost unheard of.
As LeChiffre in "Casino Royale." Proof--to my mind--that he could do comedy as well as drama. Though,it is said that Peter Sellers and Orson Welles hated each other so much, that when one was shooting the scene, the other had  to be doubled by a body double.
But, my favorite role of his is as Edward Rochester in 1944's "Jane Eyre." Not only because Joan Fontaine plays the title character in the film, but, because the film also stars three of the greatest child actresses--Peggy Ann Garner, Margaret O'Brien, and Elizabeth Taylor--and three of the greatest villains--Agnes Moorehead, Henry Daniell, and John Abbott--of that time.
And since JohnL mentioned "The Night That Panicked America," check out "Ed Wood," where Ed Wood (Johnny Depp) meets Orson Welles (Maurice LaMarche) in an all-nighter, and they talk about filmmaking. If it didn't happen that way, it should have. Enjoy all!
Title: Black Magic (Welles)
Post by: Scott on December 24, 2002, 12:33:35 AM
I'll have to pick up a rental of JANE EYRE. Blockbuster has it.

I didn't notice Orson Welles in MOBY DICK, but I'll watch out for him next time it comes on TV.

Never heard of TOUCH OF EVIL and I'll keep an eye out for START THE REVOLUTION WITHOUT ME.

BoyScoutKevin did you ever see Orson Welles in BLACK MAGIC? This is a good one with some historical characters, he plays Caligrastro(spelling?) and meets with Anton Mesmer.
Title: Re: My Newest List of Films (12/14/02)
Post by: spike on December 28, 2002, 08:29:16 PM
I like to see:
Carnosaur 3
Critters 2-4
Shark Attack3
Mimic 1
Aliens 2-3
I like to buy:
Tremors series
Jurassic park 2
terminator1-2
Once upon a time in China 1-4
predator1-2
Cowboy Bebob: Knocking on Heavens Doors
Gundam: Chars Counterattack
Title: Re: My Newest List of Films (12/14/02)
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on January 07, 2003, 06:17:06 PM
No. "Black Magic," I know is one of the few films w/ Orson Welles in it, that I have not seen. But, I will make an effort to watch it.