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Title: Battlestar Galactica
Post by: onionhead on March 20, 2003, 01:47:43 PM
Any opinions on the upcoming SciFi "event" remake of Lorne Green in the wide open black Ponderosa?  I saw a blip on tv the other night and just wondered, "Why?"
Title: Re: Battlestar Galactica
Post by: Chadzilla on March 20, 2003, 02:34:04 PM
Why indeed?  MONEY!  But who is playing the Lorne Greene character?   And will Dirk Benedict be in it?

Title: Re: Battlestar Galactica
Post by: Gerry on March 20, 2003, 02:55:40 PM
Chadzilla wrote:
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> And will Dirk Benedict be in it?

Last I heard, Dirk's character has been replaced by a plucky female.
Title: Re: Battlestar Galactica
Post by: Fearless Freep on March 20, 2003, 02:57:56 PM

Last I heard, Dirk's character has been replaced by a plucky female.

Umm...sorta ruins Starbuck's running obsession on women, gambling and drinking.

Title: Re: Not unless....
Post by: Chadzilla on March 20, 2003, 04:01:31 PM
She's a lesbian!  :-D

Title: Re: Battlestar Galactica
Post by: Hamburger Pimp on March 21, 2003, 12:24:41 AM
Oh my God.   I liked the series ok when I was a kid, but has anyone seen the movie?????   Its one of the few that I have ever turned off and never wanted to see again, and I've even rented and watched other Dirk Benedict movies, like "Demon Keeper" and... "Demon Keeper."

Title: Re: Battlestar Galactica
Post by: SkullNinja on March 21, 2003, 02:46:14 AM
Makes me wonder why, too. It wasn't really a successful show, lasting two years with the universally disdained Galactica 1980, but some folks really seem to like Battlestar Moroni.

It always suffered from the fact that they were running away. Not particularly the stuff of heroic fiction. Even with Star Trek: Voyager, they weren't running, just trying to get home.
Title: Re: Battlestar Galactica
Post by: Fearless Freep on March 21, 2003, 03:00:07 PM
It always suffered from the fact that they were running away. Not particularly the stuff of heroic fiction. Even with Star Trek: Voyager, they weren't running, just trying to get home.

When "ST: Voyager" first came out I feared it would end up suffering from the same structural problem as "Battlestar Galactica"  That being the constant underlying premise of the 'trying to get somewhere and having adventures along the way'.  It ends up getting repetitive

Battlestar Moroni.

Bad choice.  Moroni is the name of the angel that visited Joesph Smith in Mormon belief, among other legitimate usages of the word

"Battlestar Moronica" would probably capture your intention better (unless for some reason you are intentionally tring to build a Mormon/Battelstar Galactica bridge which is escaping me)
Title: Re: Battlestar Galactica
Post by: Chadzilla on March 21, 2003, 03:09:41 PM
Battlestar Mormon?  Could we put Donnie and Marie in it?  Please?  And a pithy robot sidekick.  You need pithy robot sidekicks for komedy!

Title: Re: Battlestar Galactica
Post by: tooshea on March 21, 2003, 04:31:58 PM
I liked the daggit-robot thing  hehehhehe   anyway speaking of BAD dirk benedict films ever screen "RUCKUS"   hehhehehe  I heard steve railsback AND Tommy Lee Jones refused that role
Title: Re: Battlestar Galactica
Post by: SkullNinja on March 21, 2003, 05:11:11 PM
---Battlestar Moronica" would probably capture your intention better (unless for some reason you are intentionally tring to build a Mormon/Battelstar Galactica bridge which is escaping me)


Probably escaping you because you're not familiar with the BG/LDS connection. Glen Larsen is LDS and it heavily influenced quite a bit of the show, Most people wouldn't notice it.
Title: Re: Battlestar Galactica
Post by: Fearless Freep on March 21, 2003, 05:13:18 PM
Probably escaping you because you're not familiar with the BG/LDS connection. Glen Larsen is LDS and it heavily influenced quite a bit of the show, Most people wouldn't notice it.

Fair enough :)

Title: Re: Battlestar Galactica
Post by: JohnL on March 21, 2003, 11:00:30 PM
Richard Hatch, Apollo in the original series, has wanted to make a new BG series or movie for years, and even spent his own money to create a trailer that all the fans seem to love. Unfortunately, he's basically been snubbed by the idiots who hold the rights to it, and who figure that fans will watch anything with the BG name on it. Remember, executives are incapable of judging quality. To them, Battlestar Galactica and Galactica 1980 are the same.
Title: Re: Battlestar Galactica
Post by: SkullNinja on March 22, 2003, 01:11:37 AM
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Richard Hatch, Apollo in the original series, has wanted to make a new BG series or movie for years, and even spent his own money to create a trailer that all the fans seem to love. Unfortunately, he's basically been snubbed by the idiots who hold the rights to it, and who figure that fans will watch anything with the BG name on it. Remember, executives are incapable of judging quality. To them, Battlestar Galactica and Galactica 1980 are the same.
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Which is all well and good, but the fact is that it still isn't the intellectual property of Mr. Hatch. I think I could have done better on the last two Star Wars movies, but they still belong to George. I think Hatch should create his own playground if he's so antsy to create something.
Title: Re: Battlestar Galactica
Post by: Flangepart on March 22, 2003, 01:06:17 PM
What always bothered me about "Cattlecar Galaxitive" ( Mad Mag version), is the fleeing Holocost survivors thing. Kinda depressing, when ya think about it. At least in Voyager, they knew they still had a home to search for.

Title: Re: Battlestar Galactica
Post by: SkullNinja on March 22, 2003, 01:19:44 PM
Good points, Flangepart.

Larsen sort of meant it as a double allegory for the Jewish Exodus as well as the Mormons having to run from New York to Missouri to Utah. Count Iblis was supposed to be Satan and the Cylons were demons incarnate.
Title: Kinda pulpy...once...
Post by: Todd R. on March 22, 2003, 05:18:59 PM
I always thought that BATTLESTAR GALACTICA had a great premise, regardless of the quality of the actual shows. To see what the premise can be done in the hands of a talented storyteller, check out Walt Simonson's work on the original BATLESTAR comic book from Marvel. Great stuff, just like Marvel's STAR WARS comic. Unfortunately, both BATTLESTAR and STAR WARS are now treated like complex, epic sagas of deep intellectual significance (by their fans, at least) and have lost their deliciously pulpy sci-fi roots.
Title: Re: Battlestar Galactica
Post by: Andrew on March 22, 2003, 09:30:35 PM
I know that they were looking for Earth, the lost colony.  My main worry was that they would actually find Earth (which they did in one of the movies).  Like we were going to be any help against Cylons.  Of course, a big planet full of raw materials (ore, fuel, and people) could be a bonus to kicking Cylon butt.

Title: Re: Battlestar Galactica
Post by: Flangepart on March 23, 2003, 02:36:52 PM
Yeah. Getting to earth, and finding out we were primitive was a big bummer. But, Galatica 1980 was a bummer all the way through!
God in Heaven, i hated that time travel story...they contridicted the "Don't change history" bit with no shame! Sheesh!
Stupid,stupid space opera!

Title: Re: Battlestar Galactica
Post by: yaddo42 on March 25, 2003, 04:26:45 AM
According to SciFi Weekly, the role of Adama in the new version will be played by Edward James Olmos(!).

If he plays it like Lt. Castillo from "Miami Vice" it will get old quick. But if he plays it like his character (based upon the real life teacher) in STAND AND DELIVER it could be a hoot, but for all the wrong reasons.
Title: Re: Battlestar Galactica
Post by: Scott on March 25, 2003, 11:32:55 AM
Battlestar Galactica was a great series and was ruined once they made it to earth, but they had to end it some how I suppose. Great concept of them trying to find a long lost tribe of humans, because they were running from those mechanical cylons. The story rates up there equal with Star Wars.

The reason people don't like Star Wars is because its over-played. Now that people are starting to be turned off by it and you don't see it on TV every week, maybe in 10-20 years we can kinda re-discover the original 3 episodes in a positive way.
Title: Re: Battlestar Galactica
Post by: jmc on March 25, 2003, 04:23:46 PM
Maybe Olmos will play it like AMERICAN ME!  

Wasn't the Galactica movie basically just a bunch of the TV episodes strung together?  I remember in that old Golden Turkey book it "won" for Biggest Ripoff in Hollywood History.
Title: Re: Battlestar Galactica
Post by: Fearless Freep on March 25, 2003, 05:40:31 PM
The Galactica movie was just something like the long pilot for the series.  Except in the movie Baltar was executed by the Cylons.


It's funny to read or hear about some of the stuff they went through with Lucas and the Star Wars people about what they could or could not do.

Title: Re: Battlestar Galactica
Post by: Hamburger Pimp on March 25, 2003, 10:57:28 PM
Or maybe he will play it like "Wolfen."  AHHHHHH!!

As long as I don't have to see his ass again...

Title: Re: Battlestar Galactica
Post by: JohnL on March 26, 2003, 03:06:42 AM
>Wasn't the Galactica movie basically just a bunch of the TV episodes strung
>together? I remember in that old Golden Turkey book it "won" for Biggest Ripoff
>in Hollywood History.

There was both a theatrical movie and the TV movie. The IMDB says the theatrical movie was released in Canada before the TV movie had aired. As far as I know though, the theatrical version was made from the 3 hour TV movie/pilot, with a couple extra scenes inserted.

As for the coming mini-series, the fact that they're re-casting all the roles rather than making this a direct continuation of the original series shows that the idiots behind this have no clue what the fans want or what made the original show popular with its fans.

The part that really ticks me off is that this miniseries probably wouldn't even have gotten off the ground if Richard Hatch hadn't spent his own money to make a 3 minute trailer that every fan who's seen it, loves. He showed that there was still interest in BG, and then the executives basically told him to get lost so that they make what THEY think BG should be. I'd be surprised if anyone connected to this project had ever even seen BG before they started working on this.

I'm going to predict right now that this is going to be even more unpopular than Galactica 1980.