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Title: Film Definition ?
Post by: Chopper on March 21, 2003, 03:25:16 PM
hello all, it's been a while since i frequented this board, but i figured i come here for a film question since everyone who post here is a celluloid nut like i am. ok, what does the film term "sleeper" mean? it seems to be used syonymously with "cult" film or anything wierd. someone please enlighten me on this term, and also if there's any films that can be used for examples. thank you.
Title: Re: Film Definition ?
Post by: Pete B6K on March 21, 2003, 04:18:01 PM
Not too sure if I'm right, but I think 'sleeper' means a film that pretty much goes by unnoticed on release, then much later achieves popular cult status, usually with the video/rental markets.

Pete
Title: Re: Film Definition ?
Post by: tooshea on March 21, 2003, 04:34:15 PM
Infilm school we used it to refer to a film that was critically acclaimed, however dive bombed in the box office.  QV  "my bodyguard"  "Chain Reaction"  "Breaker Morant"  etc
michael
Title: Re: Film Definition ?
Post by: Chopper on March 21, 2003, 04:43:16 PM
cool, thanks all, in that case i've seen quite a few films that fall in this category.
Title: Re: Film Definition ?
Post by: JohnL on March 21, 2003, 10:49:54 PM
I always thought a 'sleeper' was a film that was released with little advertising or fanfare, but still becomes popular mostly by word of mouth and good reviews.
Title: Re: Film Definition ?
Post by: Deej on March 22, 2003, 12:48:18 AM
JohnL wrote:
>
> I always thought a 'sleeper' was a film that was released
> with little advertising or fanfare, but still becomes popular
> mostly by word of mouth and good reviews.


That's my understanding of what the term means.

Title: Re: Film Definition ?
Post by: Flangepart on March 23, 2003, 02:32:44 PM
Nice pic on the name tag, Deej. btw, what do you think of the M-16a2? Good gun, or should they upgrade to the Galil?

Title: Re: Film Definition ?
Post by: Deej on March 23, 2003, 09:40:40 PM
Flangepart, I carried the A2 for 8 years as a Marine, and have used it occasionally as a police officer. It's the only shoulder fire weapon that I'm really familiar with, I'm fairly good with it, so you can imagine my partiality. I think it's good for distance, It's "Intimidation factor" is great for crowd control, I've never had serious problems with the action, and it's easy to maintain and perform remedial action on. Like the Pope says "I don't know much about art, but I know what I like"

Now, as for the Galil, I'm not really sure if I'm thinking about  the same rifle you are. The one I'm thinking of is similar in appearence to the Kalashnikov, and also fires 5.56 NATO rounds. If this is the same rifle, then I really can't speak about it with any kind of intelligence, I've never fired one and have only seen them in books. I hear they're a bit heavier than the M-16A2, which is bad, but that they've been designed for desert fighting, which is probably practical. If you have more information about the rifle, I'd really like to hear it!

Title: Re: Film Definition ?
Post by: Paquita on March 23, 2003, 10:26:36 PM
wow!! i didnt know what it meant either! i thought it meant a movie that was so boring it made you fall asleep!

love colleen
Title: Re: Film Definition ?
Post by: Lee on March 23, 2003, 11:53:18 PM
Paquita wrote:
>
> wow!! i didnt know what it meant either! i thought it meant a
> movie that was so boring it made you fall asleep!
>
> love colleen

Then this term applies to quite a few movies then.:)

Title: Re: Film Definition ?
Post by: Flangepart on March 24, 2003, 06:55:11 PM
Yo, Deej.
I've handled the Galil, and it is heavier then the A2. Has a Bipod, and uses the Kalashnikov action, so the Isralies don't have to worry about sand or mud jams. Uses M-16 mags, too. Good gun, but the troops have been quoted about the weight problim.
I've read a bit about the M-16 haveing a bad dust sensitiyity, as well as rthe British rifle, the AS-80 i think its called. Andrew, what do you have to say about this?

Title: Re: Film Definition ?
Post by: Deej on March 24, 2003, 07:24:13 PM
The closest I ever got to a desert with an M-16A2 was NTC and 29 palms. And, yes, we did have to clean them often.